Does India need minimum two PROPER Punjabi players in the squad to win a World Cup?

[Clarke]

BTW 2013 CT winning team was very communal with no minority representation 

[Gollum]

11 minutes ago, Clarke said:

BTW 2013 CT winning team was very communal with no minority representation 

But sarkar was secular!!!!

[Chakdephatte]

3 minutes ago, Gollum said:

But sarkar was secular!!!!

 

A Sikh, an Italian, and a Janeu-dhaari Paarsi in one frame. Miss those days.

Edited November 12, 2022 by Chakdephatte

[nevada]

17 hours ago, jalebi_bhai said:

1983, 2007 and 2011. There were at least 2 Punjabis in each of these instances. This time, we only had Kohli. 

 

Are Punjabis the good luck charms of the Indian team? Kindly discuss. 

Not just good luck charm, they are jigar wale fighters who take the attack to the opposition.  Gambho, Yuvi and Bhajji were jazba junooni players. Even baby Kohli played a nice helping hand under the guidance of the fiesty Gambhir in his first ever WC final. The way a pissed off Yuvi massacred Barbie Broad is the stuff of legends. Kapil Dev was pissed off with his team mates and caned the hapless Zimbabweans in anger all day. Balwinder Sandhu bowled a magical ball to take out Greenidge. Madan Lal demanded one more over and took the crucial wicket of Richards despite getting hammered by him. You need such heroic performances to stir up the players and make them believe that destiny is on their side for winning the tournament. 

Edited November 12, 2022 by nevada

[Lone Wolf]

11 minutes ago, nevada said:

Not just good luck charm, they are jigar wale fighters who take the attack to the opposition.  Gambho, Yuvi and Bhajji were jazba junooni players. Even baby Kohli played a nice helping hand under the guidance of the fiesty Gambhir in his first ever WC final. The way a pissed off Yuvi massacred Barbie Broad is the stuff of legends. Kapil Dev was pissed off with his team mates and caned the hapless Zimbabweans in anger all day. Balwinder Sandhu bowled a magical ball to take out Greenidge. Madan Lal demanded one more over and took the crucial wicket of Richards despite getting hammered by him. You need such heroic performances to stir up the players and make them believe that destiny is on their side for winning the tournament. 

In short phainta lagane wale players SreeSanth a South Indian played with Jazba Junoon as well. 

 

[nevada]

49 minutes ago, Chakdephatte said:

 

A Sikh, an Italian, and a Janeu-dhaari Paarsi in one frame. Miss those days.

Was Indira Gandhi's husband really Parsi? Did Rahul ever attend any prayers at a Parsi temple? He has played the role of devout Hindu time to time but haven't seen him publicly worship elsewhere.

[RajBan]

Diler, Josh, junoon and jazba. Where do we hear that a lot.

 

Oh, I remember, Padosis are also very vocal about it. This thread should have been opened in PP.

 

 

[R!TTER]

There's probably 1000 such threads already there, don't worry they'll open a 100 more after Sunday.

[nevada]

15 minutes ago, RajBan said:

Diler, Josh, junoon and jazba. Where do we hear that a lot.

 

Oh, I remember, Padosis are also very vocal about it. This thread should have been opened in PP.

 

 

Such chatter seems over the top but there is more than a grain of truth to it. Our best bowler in the tournament is a rookie Punjabi. We were saved from embarrassment against Paxtan by a washed up Punjabi batsman. 

[nevada]

18 hours ago, prudent_kreeda said:

Arre hum already Rathore ko batting coach banaakle rakha hai? Iska kuch phal kyo nahi mila ?

Woh kamzor insaan mushkil se mid-on paar karata tha ball ko. Woh kya coaching karega

[RajBan]

3 minutes ago, nevada said:

Such chatter seems over the top but there is more than a grain of truth to it. Our best bowler in the tournament is a rookie Punjabi. We were saved from embarrassment against Paxtan by a washed up Punjabi batsman. 

Against a team of predominantly Punjabi players. So that kind of evens it out ..no?

 

It won't leave good taste if rest of India start taking Santa Banta jokes literally. 

 

Punjabis who are talented and industrious will make a name for them on merit and don't need these manohar kathayein or quota system. So let's cut these generalizations and treat each individual based on what he is worth. Our very fundamental problem has been that our decisions on cricket team have been driven on perceptions by a strong nexus who has self interest to protect rather than on facts, data, performance and context. 

[jalebi_bhai]

Guys, I have made appropriate amendments to my hypothesis in the OP. Crux of the argument remains the same.

[jalebi_bhai]

7 minutes ago, RajBan said:

Against a team of predominantly Punjabi players. So that kind of evens it out ..no?

 

It won't leave good taste if rest of India start taking Santa Banta jokes literally. 

 

Punjabis who are talented and industrious will make a name for them on merit and don't need these manohar kathayein or quota system. So let's cut these generalizations and treat each individual based on what he is worth. Our very fundamental problem has been that our decisions on cricket team have been driven on perceptions by a strong nexus who has self interest to protect rather than on facts, data, performance and context. 

No one is asking for a quota system. This thread is more of an acknowledgement of the fact that some of our most clutch cricketers have some Punjabi connection. Even in this WC, Kohli and Arshdeep were two of our best performers. 

 

The thread was made in a light-hearted vein, not meant to be prescriptive in any which way. 

[RajBan]

Just now, jalebi_bhai said:

No one is asking for a quota system. This thread is more of an acknowledgement of the fact that some of our most clutch cricketers have some Punjabi connection. Even in this WC, Kohli and Arshdeep were two of our best performers. 

 

The thread was made in a light-hearted vein, not meant to be prescriptive in any which way. 

I know, we all are guilty of making those comments every now and then to vent out our inner spirit. Problem is when few individuals start believing the fun itself.

[nevada]

16 hours ago, rkt.india said:

Agarkar is Muslim?

He married Fatima, a Muslim lady. It is likely he converted to Islam for the marriage. 

[Vijy]

6 hours ago, nevada said:

He married Fatima, a Muslim lady. It is likely he converted to Islam for the marriage. 

what is his name now? Mohd Aga khan?

[nevada]

29 minutes ago, Vijy said:

what is his name now? Mohd Aga khan?

Aziz Aghakar

[vvvslaxman]

7 hours ago, nevada said:

He married Fatima, a Muslim lady. It is likely he converted to Islam for the marriage. 

 

wow @Mariyam is upto date with details lol I didn't even know th is

[Mesky99]

On 11/11/2022 at 5:55 PM, vice said:

 

 

raina is from JK. Rauf born in punjab and speaks fluent punjabi, can't speak pashto but has roots in SWAT

 

 

since wc over and time for trolling.. here's some good players of punjabi origin from reddit

 

Some noteable punjabis in cricket:

Kapil Dev (played for Haryana but parents are both from Punjab)
Gambhir
Kohli
Dhawan( dad has roots inPunjab and Dhawan tries to act Punjabi, maybe get 1/2 a point)
Bumrah ( born in Gujarat but roots in Punjab)
Navjot Sidhu
Harbhajan
Yuvraj
Mohinder Amarnath
Bedi (played for Delhi but roots in Punjab)
Gill (upcoming prospect)

That's not a bad list considering a few ATG in that list

 

Notable mentions : BS Sandhu, Yashpal Sharma, Madan Lal, Lala Amarnath.

1983 WC Finals Team had 5 players in the Final of Punjabi roots: Kapil, Mohinder Amarnath, Yashpal Sharma, Madan Lal, Sandhu

2007 T20 WC had 3 Punjabi ethnic players in Gambhir, Yuvi, Harbhajan

2011 WC team had 4 players of Punjabi background in Gambhir, Kohli, Yuvi, Harbhajan

Isn't ishant Punjabi as well? Chawla another Punjabi was in both 07 and 11 squads, saini to is Punjabi.

[Nikhil_cric]

Punjabi bowlers Chahal and Arshdeep bowling like demons .