Number Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 (edited) When England decided to play aggressive brand of Cricket in T20s, they didn't ask Joe Root to play aggressively. They dropped him and picked naturally good strikers who are instinctively boundary hitters. A team which wants to play fast paced innings construction, will they pick Akash Chopra, Rahul Dravid, Pujara and then ask them to play fast and fearless ? So why is it that India decided to change the template and not the personnel. Edited November 13, 2022 by Number deepdynamo 1 Link to comment
zen Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 (edited) Old dogs cannot learn new tricks Need right players for right execution Edited November 13, 2022 by zen IndianRenegade, nevada and express bowling 3 Link to comment
Vijy Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 1 hour ago, zen said: Old dogs cannot learn new tricks Need right players for right execution old dogs can't learn old tricks either. they are old, so too set in their ways express bowling 1 Link to comment
jf1gp_1 Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 one thing we need to change is use of phrase like "play natural game" "process" "template" etc etc Link to comment
R!TTER Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Express yourself - what the * does that actually mean Just do your job assholes & do it well Link to comment
vivek04 Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 We need selfless player like sehwag. Thats it. Looking at the current crop of Players only Shaw, sky, samson, hodda, pant fits in that category express bowling 1 Link to comment
cricketfan28 Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 6 minutes ago, vivek04 said: We need selfless player like sehwag. Thats it. Looking at the current crop of Players only Shaw, sky, samson, hodda, pant fits in that category Once they become superstars they will become selfish. vivek04 1 Link to comment
jf1gp_1 Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 10 minutes ago, R!TTER said: Express yourself - what the * does that actually mean Just do your job assholes & do it well yup you want to express yourself go meet karan johar or open a youtube channel and yes stop saying $hit like " i dont have to prove anything". Even India PM needs to prove himself every 5yrs you are only one player of Indian cricket team. Link to comment
express bowling Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Older people are set in their ways. They will revert back to 40 ball 50s the moment the team seems to be ok and winning in meaningless bilaterals and low key matches. And defensive floaty trundlers lack both ability as well as the courage to bowl wicket taking lengths. We need new quick and bouncy bowlers with white ball skills, who are preferably tall too. Younger players may not be better qualitatively but can be taught to play in the new style much more easily. Mosher, Lone Wolf, mani sha and 1 other 1 1 2 Link to comment
vivek04 Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 42 minutes ago, cricketfan28 said: Once they become superstars they will become selfish. An that's why sehwag was a gem. he never cares for a fifty or hundred just full on attack. express bowling and mani sha 1 1 Link to comment
RajBan Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 38 minutes ago, cricketfan28 said: Once they become superstars they will become selfish. That usually happens because they have been groomed by their seniors that way before they are allowed to establish themselves. If you remove the entire senior complex at one shot without bothering about transition and try building from scratch (except Sky, Pandya, Pant, Arshdeep) with complete different players then you may be able to mitigate the possibility of safe, secure, survival approach that gets transferred from the experienced players to the new ones. Even Dravid needs to only focus on Test and/or ODI or maybe at grassroots level. Definitely should not be anywhere close to coaching a T20 team. express bowling and singhvivek141 2 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 5 hours ago, zen said: Old dogs cannot learn new tricks Need right players for right execution Don't even have the right players. These are the best we have unfortunately. We are an average T20 batting side no matter who plays. How many Indians have high strike rates even in IPL? Chakdephatte 1 Link to comment
zen Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Don't even have the right players. These are the best we have unfortunately. We are an average T20 batting side no matter who plays. How many Indians have high strike rates even in IPL? Gill Pant Hooda SKY SDP Samson Sundar Moshin Bishnoi Umran Tyagi Shaw Kuldeep (or Sai Kishore) Jaiswal Kuldip Sen Tewatia PS and there are bowlers like Prasidh, Siraj, etc. Batsmen like Kishan, Rituraj, etc. Edited November 13, 2022 by zen express bowling 1 Link to comment
Number Posted November 13, 2022 Author Share Posted November 13, 2022 21 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Don't even have the right players. These are the best we have unfortunately. We are an average T20 batting side no matter who plays. How many Indians have high strike rates even in IPL? One thing is sure. We don't have Hales, Butler, Bairstow, Salt like player sitting on bench. We lack hitters like them. We have to make do with whatever we have. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 41 minutes ago, zen said: Gill Pant Hooda SKY SDP Samson Sundar Moshin Bishnoi Umran Tyagi Shaw Kuldeep (or Sai Kishore) Jaiswal Kuldip Sen Tewatia PS and there are bowlers like Prasidh, Siraj, etc. Batsmen like Kishan, Rituraj, etc. Gill is an accumulator like Kohli, Sundar can't clear 30 yard circle. Pant is a failure in international T20s. Samson hasn't done great even in IPL. singhvivek141 1 Link to comment
zen Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Gill is an accumulator like Kohli, Sundar can't clear 30 yard circle. Pant is a failure in international T20s. Samson hasn't done great even in IPL. that is ok (and can’t go worse than the oldies)… the planning is on for 2024 … Rome was not built in a day … Eng put its strategy in place in 2015 Mosher 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 48 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Gill is an accumulator like Kohli, Sundar can't clear 30 yard circle. Pant is a failure in international T20s. Samson hasn't done great even in IPL. Gill is increasing his T20 SR day by day. Pant needs to bat higher up in T20s. Mosher 1 Link to comment
singhvivek141 Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, rkt.india said: Gill is an accumulator like Kohli, Sundar can't clear 30 yard circle. Pant is a failure in international T20s. Samson hasn't done great even in IPL. Gill has shown improvement...obviously he isnt 50(25) wala batsman like Shaw...but even 50(35) is acceptable. What we need is someone who don't eat up balls at the start only to cover it later. Because when you eat up balls at the start it put immense pressure on your partner to keep the scoreboard ticking. Hypothetical scenario: If Gill scores 60(42) a day by going 10(7), 20(14), 30(21) etc... that's good for me rather scoring first 30 in 29 balls and second 30 in 13...as by that time you will be doing the catching up. Edited November 13, 2022 by singhvivek141 express bowling 1 Link to comment
goose Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 you could improve the batting overnight with pandya, sky, kohli, rohit, kl batting in that order Link to comment
Sooda Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 What sets England apart is brute power that goes through the batting order and "unorthodoxy" We don't have either to anything like the same degree They've got a team full of Hardiks almost Arguably a few who are not far off from SKY In the 360 degree batting ability (even Hales hitting sixes over fine leg), and in Buttler probably even better than SKY at that And he opens so maximises his striking. Maybe SKY needs to be at 3 Even the powerful youngsters like Shaw and Samson don't or can't bat like that I don't think . Maybe coaching is too "correct" for t20 Certainly Gill and Iyer don't, those guys are going to be the batting main stays in ODIs at least Link to comment
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now