Gollum Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 Enough is enough. Can't have someone with such a glaring deficiency be our batting mainstay. Neither does he have the ability, nor the willingness to gut it out. Frankly embarrassing now, it's 2023, not 1963 and Indians shouldn't be so helpless against the short ball. Also no mental toughness, no bowling skill, this hack offers us nothing. There must be 50 domestic players better than this idiot. I thought he would do well against spin, but he has lost that ability as well. And most of the times gets out before spin is introduced. Iyer get out. Link to comment
Adamant Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 People tell me Ganguly also had a weakness against bounce but what they don’t understand is that Ganguly was so good against lateral movement, look at his record in Eng and Nz, also I have forgotten the count of the number of matches where he was the lone warrior as opener against Wasim Waqar. On top of that he was an actual good player of spin unlike Iyer who is just good against bad spin bowling. Still remember how Ganguly used tp go over the spinner’s head for a six, inside out shots as well. Kishan is not a big upgrade but atleast he shows more aggression and can actually play short stuff AuxiliA, sensible-indian, adi B and 6 others 9 Link to comment
MediumPacer Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 supposedly practiced this in the nca ,i have never seen such a jumpy pull shot work . such poor technique and execution ,kudos to all his coaches Gollum 1 Link to comment
Gollum Posted October 29, 2023 Author Share Posted October 29, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Adamant said: People tell me Ganguly also had a weakness against bounce but what they don’t understand is that Ganguly was so good against lateral movement, look at his record in Eng and Nz, also I have forgotten the count of the number of matches where he was the lone warrior as opener against Wasim Waqar. On top of that he was an actual good player of spin unlike Iyer who is just good against bad spin bowling. Still remember how Ganguly used tp go over the spinner’s head for a six, inside out shots as well. Ganguly also had the ability to fight out bouncer barrages. Was ready to get hit, look like a clown etc but often he used to drop his ego and survive those passages of play. Not Steve Waugh level but good enough. This Iyer has no heart. Also he was a good bowling option, on seaming pitches won us a couple of ODIs against Pak, good partnership breaker etc. 4 minutes ago, Adamant said: Kishan is not a big upgrade but atleast he shows more aggression and can actually play short stuff Kishan is also an LHB, and very short, need some variety in the top 6. To mess up line/length of bowlers. Edited October 29, 2023 by Gollum Adamant, express bowling, sensible-indian and 1 other 4 Link to comment
Gollum Posted October 29, 2023 Author Share Posted October 29, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, MediumPacer said: supposedly practiced this in the nca ,i have never seen such a jumpy pull shot work . such poor technique and execution ,kudos to all his coaches If he can't play the pull shot why not leave those deliveries especially at the start of the innings? Also no scorecard pressure today or need to maintain high RR, he could have taken his own sweet time, waited for spin, made Poms sweat under the sun and cash in later. Edited October 29, 2023 by Gollum MediumPacer and Tillu 2 Link to comment
Number Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 Rishabh Pant please jaldi wapas aa jao bhai. Majak nahi chal raha hai ye ab. Norman, Adamant and express bowling 1 2 Link to comment
express bowling Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 Bring in Rishabh Pant when he returns. Even if he can't keep. P.S .. Pant should probably not keep for 6 months after his return. He is good enough as a pure batter. Suhaan, adi B, Mosher and 4 others 1 6 Link to comment
deathmonger Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 When Pandya returns keep the one who has played better between Surya and Iyer. Let's see what Surya does. express bowling 1 Link to comment
cricspirit Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 1 hour ago, express bowling said: Bring in Rishabh Pant when he returns. Even if he can't keep. P.S .. Pant should probably not keep for 6 months after his return. He is good enough as a pure batter. Pant at no.4 will get a left hander in top order too. We will have others options too going forward. This is not end of Iyers career probably but looks bad when he does this in India on the big stage. He is not helping himself. express bowling 1 Link to comment
Serpico Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 When pandya returns, play him at 4. Don't mess with KL spot in the order Sky is good enough for 6, higher ceiling than kishan/iyer and decent knock today Link to comment
Lord Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 ravishingravi, MK55, IndianRenegade and 6 others 9 Link to comment
Lord Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 2 hours ago, Gollum said: If he can't play the pull shot why not leave those deliveries especially at the start of the innings? Also no scorecard pressure today or need to maintain high RR, he could have taken his own sweet time, waited for spin, made Poms sweat under the sun and cash in later. Its an ego issue, Gollum 1 Link to comment
cricketfan28 Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 Dravid will follow the process. Link to comment
wanted_desi Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 Hardik should replace him in the line up. IF he is injured, maybe Tilak should be brought in for him. Link to comment
prudent_kreeda Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 5 minutes ago, Lord said: Its an ego issue, This is serious weakness when pacers get the ball above his throat level and line of the ball is around his right hand. He finds himself in no position to play the hook from that position. I bet even Jaiswal, Raturaj , Tilak will do better than him even today than this guy in MO . What upgrade we see is just that he has stopped that off side ramp shot against short stuff and plays OK level pull when is upto chest level. Man , this is WC . He should keep is ego at home else his career will be over. We most probably know that 4 SF opponents could be SA, AUS, NZ who have very good pacers . How we can take this liability of a batsman against short stuff against them in SF & Final ? . That's why his WC should end here and now we need to make a choice between SKY & Ishan . My choice would be SKY. If TM does not do this , it will be plain stupid on their part . Link to comment
rish Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 Easily one of the players with the worst techniques. Candidate for LBW as well as a bad puller.Should be dropped. Anyone can bat on a patta, but when it comes to show grit, this guy falls way short. Link to comment
singhvivek141 Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 Iyer has to go now..he is really walking on thin ice & he is not helping himself. Time to inject Rinku in ODI setup now, I don't think we will get any better finisher than him who also has power and a good mental strength. Link to comment
bowl_out Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 4 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said: Iyer has to go now..he is really walking on thin ice & he is not helping himself. Time to inject Rinku in ODI setup now, I don't think we will get any better finisher than him who also has power and a good mental strength. We should figure what to do in the WC now before talking about long term prospects. Who would we have between Iyer and SKY when Pandya is back Link to comment
singhvivek141 Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, bowl_out said: We should figure what to do in the WC now before talking about long term prospects. Who would we have between Iyer and SKY when Pandya is back Rotate them till league stages. Link to comment
ravishingravi Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 Nothing new here. Have been saying this for 3 years now. Honestly we are reinventing the wheel here. It's pretty clear what the issue is. Link to comment
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