Lone Wolf Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 22 minutes ago, Lord said: This game https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/new-zealand-in-india-2017-18-1120077/india-vs-new-zealand-1st-odi-1120090/full-scorecard Thala with a majestic 25 off 42 Jadhav DK Washed up MSD.... This game should have been a wake up call for 2019 WC... Kohli was at his peak & we won the decider. Lord 1 Link to comment
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Serpico Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Boult giving hints that another football score loading? AuxiliA and Norman 2 Link to comment
Lord Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 coffee_rules and Majestic 2 Link to comment
Austin 3:!6 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 17 minutes ago, Lord said: This game I remember very well....I was in India at that time. So much hype for the tournament opener. India dished a rank turner thinking they will stream roll NZ. But Kiwi's read the pitch brilliantly and picked a spin friendly team and embarrassed India Lord, nitinbwj and vvvslaxman 2 1 Link to comment
Swag Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Keeping emotions aside, man to man, India are a better unit than NZ. Our batsmen and bowlers are a rung above. All a battle of nerves/mentality, believe our team has turned the corner this time. Norman and Frustrated 2 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Gill averages close to 100 against NZ in the last 2 years. He left psychological scarson them. I understand they will plan for everyone like Iyer, Kohli, Rohitwho himself has done well against NZ with an average of 63. But their major plan will be against GIll. If he somehow finds his form it will be great. Then SKY is another guy who can bully these army of trundlers. India just has to adapt and play accordingly. I am bit worried about Iyer. They will have two card trick against him. Ful ball followed by bouncer or vice versa. Hope he doesn't get tempted. He does well against them generally. This is where guys like Rohit/Kohli have to step up. Iyer is the biggest santner killer we have. Link to comment
EnterTheVoid Posted November 13, 2023 Author Share Posted November 13, 2023 5 hours ago, coffee_rules said: Where are your loyalties? India or NZ? Just curious. Will you support India wearing All Blacks? I am supporting India. Have always supported India over NZ. I am just amazed a country with a grand total of 6 million and for whom cricket is not their primary sport, they perform better than us in crunch matches. coffee_rules 1 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 19 minutes ago, EnterTheVoid said: I am supporting India. Have always supported India over NZ. I am just amazed a country with a grand total of 6 million and for whom cricket is not their primary sport, they perform better than us in crunch matches. Cricket is a game of strategies more than you think. If someone is smarter he can bridge the gap drastically. If the opposition captain is dumber the gap will be even closer. EnterTheVoid 1 Link to comment
deathmonger Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 (edited) 26 minutes ago, EnterTheVoid said: I am supporting India. Have always supported India over NZ. I am just amazed a country with a grand total of 6 million and for whom cricket is not their primary sport, they perform better than us in crunch matches. NZ is also a first world country and has all the advantages of a first world country - analytics, fitness etc. They maximize potential as much as possible. Sports are ultimately a rich man's plaything. As Ind becomes richer, they will keep getting better (As they have been since the 2000s once the first batch of players to have started playing since 92 reforms). One of the good things about better systems is injury management via which Bumrah and Shami have been able to fulfill their initial promise despite injuries etc. Compare to the mid 00s crop we had - Irfan, RP, Nehra etc who we couldn't take to the next level. Pakistan has this issue with guys like Junaid, Amir, Hasan Ali getting injured and returning a pale shadow of themselves. Shaheen currently. Maybe Naseem next. Edited November 13, 2023 by deathmonger AuxiliA, Frustrated, rollingstoned and 2 others 5 Link to comment
AKane Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 1 hour ago, EnterTheVoid said: I am just amazed a country with a grand total of 6 million and for whom cricket is not their primary sport, they perform better than us in crunch matches. Then consider Uruguay in soccer - pop 3.4 million and they can play with anybody. Play with a Argentina with just a little lower skill but match Italy in toughness in a WC game. EnterTheVoid 1 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 21 minutes ago, AKane said: Then consider Uruguay in soccer - pop 3.4 million and they can play with anybody. Play with a Argentina with just a little lower skill but match Italy in toughness in a WC game. People have to understand how many people actually pursue cricket as a career. When you calculate the raw numbers it is less than you think. India's strength is going to be the bench strength. Karun Nairs, Manoj Tiwarys, Manish pandeys probably would still be playing for some other side. Even Chahal, Bishnoi will have a shot. Sundar may be a regular for some other team. Too bad cricket is just a XI player game. Link to comment
BlueBee Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Hope this match puts an end to our bad performance in knockouts. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 6 hours ago, Serpico said: Boult giving hints that another football score loading? Even with that football score card we still could have won the match with a bit of juidicial shot selection in the middle overs. First Pant holing out, Immediately Pandya holing out. So many things went in their favor. Direct hit with one stump to aim at. That catch of DK was out of the world. He took it barely an inch above the ground. I do not expect such a mess up with batting this time. But our bowling should be top notch. Link to comment
nitinbwj Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, Austin 3:!6 said: This game I remember very well....I was in India at that time. So much hype for the tournament opener. India dished a rank turner thinking they will stream roll NZ. But Kiwi's read the pitch brilliantly and picked a spin friendly team and embarrassed India Santner (4) + Nathan Mccullum (2) + Sodhi (3) ------- 11 overs, 9 wickets, 46 runs Jadeja + Ashwin - 2 wickets for 58 runs. Disaster!! Edited November 14, 2023 by nitinbwj Austin 3:!6 1 Link to comment
deathmonger Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 1 hour ago, vvvslaxman said: Even with that football score card we still could have won the match with a bit of juidicial shot selection in the middle overs. First Pant holing out, Immediately Pandya holing out. So many things went in their favor. Direct hit with one stump to aim at. That catch of DK was out of the world. He took it barely an inch above the ground. I do not expect such a mess up with batting this time. But our bowling should be top notch. https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/india-in-new-zealand-2018-19-1153688/new-zealand-vs-india-5th-odi-1153695/full-scorecard This should have been the template Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 33 minutes ago, deathmonger said: https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/india-in-new-zealand-2018-19-1153688/new-zealand-vs-india-5th-odi-1153695/full-scorecard This should have been the template Yes take it deep and finish it. This is one team against which you can take it deep. They have zero death bowlers. It is one thing losing to a good team. This was a crap team. Link to comment
deathmonger Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Just now, vvvslaxman said: Yes take it deep and finish it. This is one team against which you can take it deep. They have zero death bowlers. It is one thing losing to a good team. This was a crap team. southee boult without swing are fodder 130kph bowlers. Link to comment
ravishingravi Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 On the day folks. India is better side but on the day anyone can be an hero. All this chest thumping followed by wrist slitting would be pointless. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 9 minutes ago, ravishingravi said: On the day folks. India is better side but on the day anyone can be an hero. All this chest thumping followed by wrist slitting would be pointless. No room for failure against a team like NZ. I understand losing to Australia who has some elements that can completely shock us on a given day. But NZ's forces are controllable. So there will be serious backlash should they fail especially VK and RS fail one more time. Link to comment
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