ungboysj Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 (edited) Ok too many goodie goodie and proud threads drama We got embarassed in our own backyard and is most humiliating defeat ever and I am really angry and I guess everyone is This thread is meant to get out your real Frustration and unpopular view My views India has been humiliated by Australia and we can never take revenge for this Bumrah is overrated in odi and is good only for defending and not a strike bowler Siraj is full crap Sky is crap Kuldeep is useless against big teams Jadeja is always useless in white ball Rohit fu..ed up Kohli is too self obsessed Iyer can't play pace bowlers Australia had better bowlers than us and a long batting line up Selection was pathetic always batting heavy team win world cups We can't beat a western team in finals they are better built then us and also better intellect. We can only beat asian or wi team This is biggest f..k up ever we built 10 years for it as it was not possible to win in Australia or England Nothing else matters , we can't make up for it with as many win as in future Edited November 21, 2023 by ungboysj Link to comment
Reddysaab Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 (edited) i agree with you except one point - BUMRAH IS GUN. he always takes key wickets. even the other day we got fked over by umpire on Labushane LBW off Bumrah umpires call. that could have been the match turner Edited November 21, 2023 by Reddysaab vijaydude 1 Link to comment
deathmonger Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 (edited) Naah, western teams are better due to being richer. We have reached parity with them and were on the wrong side of conditions in the final. The western teams have a decade left when they can compete. Australians don't even give a damn about cricket for them to care about "revenge" etc. We won CT in 2013 defeating Eng in Eng. 1983 WI team we defeated is better than any western team ever barring Aus 99-07 maybe. Edited November 21, 2023 by deathmonger Link to comment
Insidious Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 After 2 new ball rule in ODI, Indian cricket witness cultural shift as such we don't have a single batsman who is a handy bowler or a bowler who can be a handy batsman. Atleast spinners like Kuldeep Yadav or chahal should have been good enough to give regular contribution with the bat just like Harbhajan used to do. Is Indian cricket team progressing or regressing? Frustrated 1 Link to comment
deathmonger Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 Just now, Insidious said: After 2 new ball rule in ODI, Indian cricket witness cultural shift as such we don't have a single batsman who is a handy bowler or a bowler who can be a handy batsman. Atleast spinners like Kuldeep Yadav or chahal should have been good enough to give regular contribution with the bat just like Harbhajan used to do. Is Indian cricket team progressing or regressing? Most important thing to invest in. Need to have batting till 9. Sundar and Tilak Varma should be invested in massively. Raj Bawa maybe early callup. singhvivek141 1 Link to comment
nevada Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 15 minutes ago, Insidious said: After 2 new ball rule in ODI, Indian cricket witness cultural shift as such we don't have a single batsman who is a handy bowler or a bowler who can be a handy batsman. Atleast spinners like Kuldeep Yadav or chahal should have been good enough to give regular contribution with the bat just like Harbhajan used to do. Is Indian cricket team progressing or regressing? Yeah Bhajji was a handy batsman and used to score quickly, too! Even scored couple of test centuries. Link to comment
vivek04 Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 only to avenge this wc defeat is to beat them again in the test series in their own backyard. Reddysaab, AKane and Insidious 3 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 They outgunned us in every department. So no frustrations. India had a soft under belly at no.6 and no.7. We were worried about that spot. Against England we had a slightly more helpful conditions with slightly faster pitch. So we could defend. But on a slow tacky surface they negated that threat too from India. We just have to tip our hat off to AUstralia and move on. Link to comment
The Realist Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 2 hours ago, vvvslaxman said: They outgunned us in every department. So no frustrations. India had a soft under belly at no.6 and no.7. We were worried about that spot. Against England we had a slightly more helpful conditions with slightly faster pitch. So we could defend. But on a slow tacky surface they negated that threat too from India. We just have to tip our hat off to AUstralia and move on. Eng were just rank bad but if they had played like they did in the final games they would likely have won chasing only 230. Aus had plans A,B and C while Ind in contrast had no clue about how to adapt to fluid match situations. Sharma and Dravid simply cannot think on the go and most of the players just have one way of playing. Sport is about as much as mentality as it is talent. Link to comment
R!TTER Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 2 hours ago, vvvslaxman said: But on a slow tacky surface they negated that threat too from India. Red vs black soil - biggest difference there, Oz were coming from a similar black soil track in Kolkata that turned more & we went from red flat deck in Mumbai to this slow deck in "Namo" gardens Link to comment
Gollum Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 Gill is overrated, a journeyman cricketer if ever there was, aur karo Bollywoodias ke saath g@ndmasti. Siraj is rank mediocre, wonder why this forum hypes him so much. Kuldeep was a big letdown, not nearly as good as many of us thought. Enough has been said about the others. Trichromatic 1 Link to comment
BlueBlood Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 we can comment all we want but nothing will change until team gives importance to clutch performers over seniority or experience. Travis Head was sitting at home for 6 weeks due to fractured hand and they still brought him straight to the side on a WC. That shows how much faith they have in him for his clutch performances. Same with Maxwell and Smith. They know the importance of clutch match winners. Hardik was mismanaged the same way. And Rinku Singh who is a clutch performer should have at least been selected to the 15. The reality is if you take no risks, you are bound to face these issues. Dhoni got saved by Raina and Yuvraj who are miles better than SKY and Jadeja in every way to win the WC 2011. This team had 4 years to prepare and still messed up bad in finding a replacement for Raina and Yuvraj. Everyone here are just as much a culprit due to stat padding. Gill for example will become a Kohli level stat padder rather than a Raina style match winner. We just needed SKY, Rahul or Jadeja to fire a quick fire 50 in the end in 30 balls or so. Had we just had ONE of these players do that, we would have won the game. Losers whine with excuses but winners find a way to win. IndianRenegade 1 Link to comment
Chaos Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 Man, had rohit converted his start…we would have been in good condition. But he was not selfish. Went out and played fearless cricket. Giving maxwell a wicket…uhg. But what a show rohit put up. He was better player than kohli in this wc. sage 1 Link to comment
Gollum Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 Thanks for the thread OP. We need this to take out our bhadaas over the next few days/weeks, will be civil in other threads however, so don't you worry mods ungboysj 1 Link to comment
bowl_out Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 For once, our team should stop obsessing on any milestones. 5-wicket haul, 50th century, none of it matters.. The only thing that matters is winning the trophy. I read somewhere about some Australian journalist commenting about the difference between Australian and Indian parental thinking. When an Indian kid plays a game and comes back home, the parents would ask "How much did you score". When an Australian kid plays a game and comes back home, the parents would ask "Did your team win". Link to comment
Vilander Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 india needs to chill the f out. You are a bit country. Chill you will get other chances, Aus won 6 cups like last 3 of them when they no longer care about the sport. Stop caring about cricket so much. Link to comment
Lord Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 They are all good cricketers. They just choked, specially Rohit and TM. Didn't help it was at Ahmedabad and pitch was trash for batting first. Link to comment
AKane Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 (edited) The character of the team's final play was very similar to how Rahul Dravid played his entire career. Cautious...... except Rohit Sharma who unfortunately played rash. As long as Rahul Dravid is coach, we will have a cautious team. They will not play their natural game without fear. They will play an unnatural game very cautiously. That style worked for Dravid. It would not have worked for Sehwag, Sachin or Laxman. Similarly it won't work for anyone now except maybe KL Rahul. That goes for the bowlers and their bowling style too. Give Dravid Coetzee and he will have him bowling like Bhuvaneshwar. All line, length and gentle pace. Edited November 21, 2023 by AKane Link to comment
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