Virat Kohli - When will the torture end?

[Texan]

Kohli has been a $hitshow since the last 4-5 years at least. Test batting has been particularly horrendous. When conditions are even slightly unfavorable, he cannot even get to double digits. When conditions are flat, at the most he is able to get to a half century. No big 100s, no ability to improvise in bowler friendly conditions.

 

On top of all of that, he doesn't even care to hone his skills by playing domestic matches when no other cricket is being played. He conveniently skipped Duleep and Irani Trophies and hasn't played any domestic cricket I believe in some 10 years or so. Even Sachin Tendulkar used to play Ranji Trophy matches when he could, but this narcissist thinks he is above the game and the system and that he doesn't need any practice. He selectively plays whichever international tournaments or matches that he likes and conveniently sits out of some when he doesn't want to play. It's all up to his whims and fancies.

 

The fact that there are other low performers like KL Rahul in the team helps mask this guy's facade.

 

Enough is enough! This year should be the last we see of Kohli, but alas that will not happen.

 

Ending the post with a video of Kohli getting bowled on a full toss. Even Bumrah would have put that away.

https://www.bcci.tv/bccilink/videos/iiVyrMxj

[Ultimate_Game]

For the last few years the lower order was cleaning up Kohli and top order's mess. This series lower order has struggled, which was bound to happen sometime and you get to see the true picture. Kohli adds absolutely no value to the team and the team actually looks better when he's not around - case in point Aus series in Aus (2020-21) and Eng series earlier this year.

 

He has been the worst no. 4 batsman over the last 5 years in Test cricket and has held us back. After the lost decade without any ICC tourney win, he's about to set a new record - losing Test series to NZ at home for the first time ever. He's so out of it that the phucker was bowled off a full toss from a spinner. I can't imagine any FC or even a school level batter getting out to the delivery he did. He can't play against spinners and can't play pacers bowling on the 4th to 5th stump line. In other words, he' absolutely useless but unfortunately our selectors are not like the Aussie ones who chuck out under-performers.

Edited October 25, 2024 by Ultimate_Game

[Chakdephatte]

This WTC cycle is his last. Not going by gut, but he wouldn't want to bring his average drop too much. Doesn't look interested in test cricket either. 

[New guy]

9 minutes ago, Chakdephatte said:

This WTC cycle is his last. Not going by gut, but he wouldn't want to bring his average drop too much. Doesn't look interested in test cricket either. 

Yeah, I think he has mentally checked out of India and cricket and wants to live a peaceful life outside with his kids and wife and money. 

[Ultimate_Game]

38 minutes ago, New guy said:

Yeah, I think he has mentally checked out of India and cricket and wants to live a peaceful life outside with his kids and wife and money. 

 

Nobody is holding a gun to his head. He can go ahead and retire right now. It's not as if he's making a difference and winning us matches. These days he flies in before a series without any practice, looks disinterested, gets out for low scores, and then flies out. Rinse and Repeat.

 

I don't recall the last time Kohli actually made a difference or made a significant contribution in Tests. The folks saving our asses have been bowlers and lower order. The moment lower order struggled, it all came down crashing like a house of cards. Shows what value, or lack thereof, Kohli brings to the team.

[vvvslaxman]

1 minute ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

Nobody is holding a gun to his head. He can go ahead and retire right now. It's not as if he's making a difference and winning us matches. These days he flies in before a series without any practice, looks disinterested, gets out for low scores, and then flies out. Rinse and Repeat.

 

I don't recall the last time Kohli actually made a difference or made a significant contribution in Tests. The folks saving our asses have been bowlers and lower order. The moment lower order struggled, it all came down crashing like a house of cards. Shows what value, or lack thereof, Kohli brings to the team.

 

I already put out a stat from 2019.  kohli's average is the lowest at home in winning causes. 30 or something. if anythign whenever he goes missing we win.  in australia we won 2-0 after he left. Against england we won 1-4. he came back. lost series in sl. Will lose series against nz.

[Ultimate_Game]

4 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

I already put out a stat from 2019.  kohli's average is the lowest at home in winning causes. 30 or something. if anythign whenever he goes missing we win.  in australia we won 2-0 after he left. Against england we won 1-4. he came back. lost series in sl. Will lose series against nz.

 

He's a true "anchor" at this point. Holding and weighing the team down. Comes in at 4 and bats like a tail-ender.

 

Missed a full toss from a spinner yesterday and made a face as if the ball turned 180 degrees. Since 2019 we've been winning inspite of Kohli, not because of him. It really shows how good Ashwin, Jadeja and our lower order has been to carry this weight for 5 years now.

[vvvslaxman]

Just now, Ultimate_Game said:

 

He's a true "anchor" at this point. Holding and weighing the team down. Comes in at 4 and bats like a tail-ender.

 

Missed a full toss from a spinner yesterday and made a face as if the ball turned 180 degrees. Since 2019 we've been winning inspite of Kohli, not because of him. It really shows how good Ashwin, Jadeja and our lower order has been to carry this weight for 5 years now.

Axar would have been a massive upgrade over him. i was pissed off when this guy got man of the match in WT20 final. Axar and Dube did the acceleration. This guy was tuktuking his way to 50 and went home with MOM award. 

[Ultimate_Game]

11 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

Axar would have been a massive upgrade over him. i was pissed off when this guy got man of the match in WT20 final. Axar and Dube did the acceleration. This guy was tuktuking his way to 50 and went home with MOM award. 

 

Axar would've contributed in every discipline. This pitch is tailor made for him. And in WT20 Axar was the one who did the hard yards followed by our stellar death bowling. Kohli left no stone unturned in losing us the match the way he has done for more than a decade. Absolutely useless and impactless. Reason why RCB is laughing stock of IPL, and you've to check out Kohli's stats in playoffs. Across 16 playoff matches his stats are the same as Mandeep Singh - an average in 20s and SR in 120s! And 16 playoff matches is a big enough sample size.

 

And the worst part is that he along with Rohit and KL Rahul have wasted Bumrah's best years. We couldn't win a tourney for more than a decade when we had likes of Bumrah and Shami thanks to choking of Kohli and company. Never showed up in knockouts and when needed in Tests.

Edited October 25, 2024 by Ultimate_Game

[Ultimate_Game]

At least learn from Pakistan. The moment they offloaded their useless "King" they've started winning. Wish our selectors have the balls to do the same. We want to see Indian team winning, not a fake King score some impactless runs once in a blue moon.

[maniac]

If we don’t qualify for WTC based on potential series loss to kiwis and the later drubbing in store in Australia, that will be it for him and Rohit.

[The Realist]

1 hour ago, maniac said:

If we don’t qualify for WTC based on potential series loss to kiwis and the later drubbing in store in Australia, that will be it for him and Rohit.

 Don't even need to be whooped in Aus, lose the NZ series and its pretty much curtains for WTC.

 

Apart from SA choking in the recent WT20 final, Kohli and Sharma have empty trophy cabinets despite a decade at the top. 

 

They still won't go gracefully though, it will get ugly before they exit.

[BacktoCricaddict]

5 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

if anythign whenever he goes missing we win.  

 

Aha! See, even *he* knows this, and so he  is sacrificing his wicket early for the sake of the team and country. We must celebrate his generosity, not criticize him. 

Edited October 26, 2024 by BacktoCricaddict

[Frustrated]

Selectors & TM are busy exploring new ways of getting humiliated....all the way from Ind to Aus...Clown Chokli who gets cleaned up by fulltoss from a spinner & averages an embarassing 28 in his last 20 test innings gets the flight ticket to Aus much before departure.  No questions raised on his selection.  Same with his retirement partner Fatso Sharma (having similar average in last 30 innings) who gets cleaned up on Duck by ordinary straight delivery that didn't even swing at all.   

[Frustrated]

Chokli's last 20 test innings avg is same as that of Gobar Azam.    Gobar got dropped.   Chokli on the other hand gets rewarded with flight ticket to Aus.  PCB has shown more spine than the inept BCCI.  

[singhvivek141]

34 minutes ago, Frustrated said:

Chokli's last 20 test innings avg is same as that of Gobar Azam.    Gobar got dropped.   Chokli on the other hand gets rewarded with flight ticket to Aus.  PCB has shown more spine than the inept BCCI.  

BCCI is all about IPL and cheerleading...cricket is secondary.

In Bengaluru the moron crowd was shouting RCB, RCB even when India was getting pasted left and right in the first inns.

[Trichromatic]

Kohli averages 33 in 36 tests in last 5 years.

 

Career averages

	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
unfiltered	2011-2024	117	198	12	9018	254*	48.48	16159	55.80	29	31	15	1009	28
filtered	2019-2024	36	60	2	1964	186	33.86	3920	50.10	3	9	6	224	6

Career summary

Grouping	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
v Australia	2020-2023	6	10	0	438	186	43.80	880	49.77	1	1	0	46	0
v Bangladesh	2019-2024	6	10	2	280	136	35.00	440	63.63	1	0	1	31	1
v England	2021-2022	9	15	0	421	72	28.06	900	46.77	0	4	3	56	0
v New Zealand	2020-2024	6	11	0	202	70	18.36	464	43.53	0	1	2	16	2
v South Africa	2019-2024	5	9	0	345	79	38.33	708	48.72	0	2	0	51	3
v Sri Lanka	2022-2022	2	3	0	81	45	27.00	140	57.85	0	0	0	8	0
v West Indies	2023-2023	2	2	0	197	121	98.50	388	50.77	1	1	0	16	0
in Australia	2020-2020	1	2	0	78	74	39.00	188	41.48	0	1	0	9	0
in Bangladesh	2022-2022	2	4	1	45	24	15.00	129	34.88	0	0	0	3	0
in England	2021-2023	7	13	0	369	55	28.38	798	46.24	0	2	1	47	0
in India	2019-2024	18	27	1	904	186	34.76	1636	55.25	2	3	5	94	3
in New Zealand	2020-2020	2	4	0	38	19	9.50	95	40.00	0	0	0	6	0
in South Africa	2021-2024	4	8	0	333	79	41.62	686	48.54	0	2	0	49	3
in West Indies	2023-2023	2	2	0	197	121	98.50	388	50.77	1	1	0	16	0

[Trichromatic]

Overall figures

Player	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
RG Sharma	2019-2024	34	58	3	2331	212	42.38	4074	57.21	7	8	2	279	43
V Kohli	2019-2024	36	60	2	1964	186	33.86	3920	50.10	3	9	6	224	6
RR Pant	2020-2024	26	45	4	1815	146	44.26	2388	76.00	4	10	1	203	46
Shubman Gill	2020-2024	28	51	5	1686	128	36.65	2815	59.89	5	6	5	187	30
CA Pujara	2019-2023	31	55	3	1564	102*	30.07	4110	38.05	1	13	6	198	2
RA Jadeja	2019-2024	31	44	5	1452	175*	37.23	2978	48.75	3	9	4	147	21
YBK Jaiswal	2023-2024	13	23	1	1295	214*	58.86	1873	69.14	3	7	1	150	32
AM Rahane	2019-2023	25	42	1	1217	115	29.68	2572	47.31	2	6	4	148	7
R Ashwin	2019-2024	37	52	2	1080	113	21.60	1986	54.38	2	3	6	127	9
KL Rahul	2021-2024	17	31	1	975	129	32.50	2064	47.23	3	4	2	122	12
MA Agarwal	2019-2022	15	26	0	883	243	33.96	1612	54.77	2	3	1	119	15
SS Iyer	2021-2024	14	24	2	811	105	36.86	1287	63.01	1	5	2	94	16
AR Patel	2021-2024	14	22	4	646	84	35.88	1235	52.30	0	4	1	70	18
GH Vihari	2020-2022	9	16	2	373	58	26.64	1021	36.53	0	2	0	48	0
SN Khan	2024-2024	5	8	1	361	150	51.57	474	76.16	1	3	2	43	8
SN Thakur	2021-2023	10	17	0	327	67	19.23	510	64.11	0	4	3	41	9
Mohammed Shami	2019-2023	20	31	10	317	56*	15.09	420	75.47	0	1	5	38	9
Washington Sundar	2021-2024	5	7	3	283	96*	70.75	523	54.11	0	3	2	33	6
JJ Bumrah	2020-2024	28	43	11	262	34*	8.18	526	49.80	0	0	16	30	7
KS Bharat	2023-2024	7	12	1	221	44	20.09	417	52.99	0	0	0	19	6
DC Jurel	2024-2024	3	4	1	190	90	63.33	354	53.67	0	1	0	12	7

[VT87]

I swear never seen someone so crippled against spin forget about international even u15 these type of jan@@ are not allowed to enter in ground 

[Autonomous]

4 hours ago, Frustrated said:

Chokli's last 20 test innings avg is same as that of Gobar Azam.    Gobar got dropped.   Chokli on the other hand gets rewarded with flight ticket to Aus.  PCB has shown more spine than the inept BCCI.  

Pakistan started winning because of spin from Sajid and Nauman. Also, both these guys are very decent lower order batters - in test matches, you want your tail enders to be handy with bat. 

 

In this Rawalpindi test alone - both the guys have contributed 90+ together. Otherwise, England would have gotten a handy lead. 

 

Similarly, while dropping a player - you need to look at perfornance of other players and substitues. For example, for all the sub par performances from Babar Azam - I would still take him over Shan Masood.