The Dark Horse Posted December 31, 2024 Posted December 31, 2024 Master_better, express bowling, Frustrated and 1 other 4
Ultimate_Game Posted December 31, 2024 Posted December 31, 2024 Ideally Rohit should be stripped of the captaincy, and both Rohit and Kohli should be kicked out of the team. But we all know BCCI is a political organization and selectors are absolutely useless and gutless. Now wait for the same shyte show in CT as well, and till the time these two parasites continue to linger on. The Dark Horse, Master_better and raki05 2 1
wanted_desi Posted December 31, 2024 Posted December 31, 2024 1000% Yes. When Pujara and Rahane were dropped: Based on numbers people here were calling for Virat to be dropped as well. Has he played one impactful inning since then? No wonder, we don't win anything without miracles. cricspirit, raki05, rollingstoned and 1 other 1 3
vvvslaxman Posted December 31, 2024 Posted December 31, 2024 SRikkanth himself was dropped both as a player and captain directly from the side even after drawing test series in Pakistan. raki05, Master_better and The Dark Horse 3
BacktoCricaddict Posted December 31, 2024 Posted December 31, 2024 3 hours ago, vvvslaxman said: SRikkanth himself was dropped both as a player and captain directly from the side even after drawing test series in Pakistan. There were some off field issues too then, iirc. Like payment disputes or something?
ShanS Posted December 31, 2024 Posted December 31, 2024 Bumrah as captain will make sense ONLY if we had bowlers like Starc/Boland/Hazlewood to share the workload effectively and reduce Bumrah's burden. Do we really want Bumrah to play each and every test match? Of course not..So who'll be the captain then? Is the team ready to have two different captains? Chakdephatte 1
nevada Posted December 31, 2024 Posted December 31, 2024 1 hour ago, BacktoCricaddict said: There were some off field issues too then, iirc. Like payment disputes or something? Yes, he spoke up for better remuneration for the cricketers. People in authority obviously didn't like it and kicked him out of the team itself, making Azhar captain. BacktoCricaddict and The Dark Horse 2
sensible-indian Posted December 31, 2024 Posted December 31, 2024 Just now, nevada said: Yes, he spoke up for better remuneration for the cricketers. People in authority obviously didn't like it and kicked him out of the team itself, making Azhar captain. So Bcci had always been a chewt.
Nikhil_cric Posted December 31, 2024 Posted December 31, 2024 6 hours ago, vvvslaxman said: SRikkanth himself was dropped both as a player and captain directly from the side even after drawing test series in Pakistan. He averaged 13 with the bat in that series on absolute roads. He was finished.
vvvslaxman Posted December 31, 2024 Posted December 31, 2024 1 minute ago, Nikhil_cric said: He averaged 13 with the bat in that series on absolute roads. He was finished. But we don't make such calls these days. Kapil and Gavaskar exchanged captaincy atleast 2 times in the early 80s despite Kapil winning world cup. There were consequences for losing series. Consequences for lean patches unlike now. 5 year lean patch would have never happened int hat era.
Nikhil_cric Posted December 31, 2024 Posted December 31, 2024 2 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: But we don't make such calls these days. Kapil and Gavaskar exchanged captaincy atleast 2 times in the early 80s despite Kapil winning world cup. There were consequences for losing series. Consequences for lean patches unlike now. 5 year lean patch would have never happened int hat era. I would disagree with that at least for Kapil. Last 31 Tests , Kapil had a bowling strike rate of 84 or something. That was a 4.5 year period . He was finished and he just kept carrying on to break Hadlee's record. sensible-indian 1
Vijy Posted December 31, 2024 Posted December 31, 2024 9 hours ago, Ultimate_Game said: Ideally Rohit should be stripped of the captaincy, and both Rohit and Kohli should be kicked out of the team. But we all know BCCI is a political organization and selectors are absolutely useless and gutless. Now wait for the same shyte show in CT as well, and till the time these two parasites continue to linger on. they will play till 2027 ODI WC and 2027 WTC Ultimate_Game 1
maniac Posted December 31, 2024 Posted December 31, 2024 Same person didn’t have guts to drop MSD after 8-0 trashing as chief selector Ultimate_Game and Laaloo 2
vvvslaxman Posted December 31, 2024 Posted December 31, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, Nikhil_cric said: I would disagree with that at least for Kapil. Last 31 Tests , Kapil had a bowling strike rate of 84 or something. That was a 4.5 year period . He was finished and he just kept carrying on to break Hadlee's record. He didn't play for 5 years. He had a good series in Australia 25 wickets. After that just 16 tests he played. But in South africa he made that breathtaking 129 when India 31/5 on a spicy pitch. Averaged 40 in that series with bat. Bowling regression already noticed by others in ODIs. That simmons shot was the sign. But in terms of years may be high. But we only played 10 or 12 tests after his regression. Not like 30-40 tests. Besides Kapil's replacements were just comign through. They were not fully ready for prime time. India played a lot of home games on dug up pitches unleashing Kumble. So Kapil's services were not needed. INdia in Australia 1992 India in ZImbabwe 2 wickets & 60 runs EEngland in India 7 wickets & 101 runs . He was not needed because Kumble and other random spinners did the job on those pitches Zimbabwe in India inconsequential match India in Srilanka 62 runs & 5 wickets 31 avge with bat and ball SL in India 99 runs & 7 wickets 25 avge with ball India in NZ - he quit. Yes Kapil was shadow of himself. But he didn't drop to this level Edited December 31, 2024 by vvvslaxman
vvvslaxman Posted December 31, 2024 Posted December 31, 2024 1 hour ago, maniac said: Same person didn’t have guts to drop MSD after 8-0 trashing as chief selector I don't think Srikkanth was the selector. His tenure ended in 2012. INdia was not doing terribly at that time. Infact they had issue ag ainst DHoni for including PIyush in world cup 2011. Sandip patil took over selection in 2013. The Dark Horse 1
vvvslaxman Posted December 31, 2024 Posted December 31, 2024 This is what happened Cheeka's tenure as selector. He was pressurized to quit after ENgland series loss. Much bigger failures happened after that. Nothing happened. Look at Home series white wash. Did anyone get impacted? Krishnamachari Srikkanth, a former Indian cricketer, was the Chief Selector of the Indian cricket team from 2008 to 2011: Appointment Srikkanth was appointed as the Chief Selector in 2008, succeeding Dilip Vengsarkar. Selection committee The selection committee led by Srikkanth chose the Indian team that won the 2011 Cricket World Cup. Tenure Srikkanth's tenure included India's rise to the top of the Test rankings. Pressure to quit Srikkanth was under pressure to quit after India's loss to England in a Test series. Other roles Srikkanth has also worked as a cricket analyst, IPL franchise ambassador, and member of the All India Council of Sports.
Lord Posted December 31, 2024 Posted December 31, 2024 7 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: I don't think Srikkanth was the selector. His tenure ended in 2012. INdia was not doing terribly at that time. Infact they had issue ag ainst DHoni for including PIyush in world cup 2011. Sandip patil took over selection in 2013. 8-0 happened in 2011-12 only
vvvslaxman Posted December 31, 2024 Posted December 31, 2024 (edited) Just now, Lord said: 8-0 happened in 2011-12 only INdia was no.1 ranked test side right in 2011? They won the test mace if i am right Edited December 31, 2024 by vvvslaxman
Lord Posted December 31, 2024 Posted December 31, 2024 1 minute ago, vvvslaxman said: INdia was no.1 ranked test side right in 2011? They won the test mace if i am right not after 8-0
vvvslaxman Posted December 31, 2024 Posted December 31, 2024 Just now, Lord said: not after 8-0 Yes. We did discuss here about that. TINA factor was the reason why MSD was persisted as it happened during transition. ALmost all seniors left. We were left with Gambhir who himself was not consistent.
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