tapandrun Posted March 6, 2025 Posted March 6, 2025 28 minutes ago, Gollum said: Don't think any Indian has scored a 100 in an ICC final. No better team to correct that record against. ct-2000 , ind vs nz finals gangully 117 Gollum 1
Strangering Posted March 6, 2025 Posted March 6, 2025 Lets look at Gill in similar situations historically. I guess the answer to OP's question is a resounding "No". At this stage, we are effectively playing with two batsmen and two bowling allrounders in the batting department. Ultimate_Game 1
adi B Posted March 7, 2025 Posted March 7, 2025 Will most likely fail in the finals like most of our Sooperstars ,He is all talk & no show till now Ultimate_Game and tapandrun 1 1
Ultimate_Game Posted March 7, 2025 Author Posted March 7, 2025 17 minutes ago, adi B said: Will most likely fail in the finals like most of our Sooperstars ,He is all talk & no show till now I suspect the same. I don't see him being clutch. Jaiswal should've been backed instead of Gill and Jaiswal has that "dog" in him. He looks ready for a fight while Gill gives me a KL type of vibe. Final mein sab doodh ka doodh aur paani ka paani ho jayega. Bu in terms of clutchness I rate Pandya and Axar over any of our stars. Hopefully the stars prove me wrong and they show up in the final adi B 1
putrevus Posted March 7, 2025 Posted March 7, 2025 (edited) Wow some geniuses here are hard to please and always are whinging. India has reached all three major finals of whiteball cricket losing just one match that too in finals in last 18 months with the so called superstars carrying the batting. Gill be just fine now and in future.He played two ICC events, he was coming off dengue in one.He was scoring runs in that semifinal before the injury. He scored 100 in this event, let us see what he can do in finals. If people have unreal and moronic expectations, it is not players fault. No other team has done it , yet it is all talk and no show for some whingers.We want these superstars who are all talk and no show to play for this team to keep getting them to finals. Edited March 7, 2025 by putrevus
Ultimate_Game Posted March 7, 2025 Author Posted March 7, 2025 9 minutes ago, putrevus said: Wow some geniuses here are hard to please and always are whinging. India has reached all three major finals of whiteball cricket losing just one match that too in finals in last 18 months with the so called superstars carrying the batting. Gill be just fine now and in future.He played two ICC events, he was coming off dengue in one.He was scoring runs in that semifinal before the injury. He scored 100 in this event, let us see what he can do in finals. If people have unreal and moronic expectations, it is not players fault. No other team has done it , yet it is all talk and no show for some whingers.We want these superstars who are all talk and no show to play for this team to keep getting them to finals. Winning titles matters. Aus team of late 90s and 2000s was GOATed not for reaching the finals but for winning trophies. Reaching finals and knockouts is not what defines legacy, winning tournaments and cups does. If you hit a ceiling with certain players you have to make changes to improve. If you're simply sated with reaching knockouts, you'll end up becoming SA of 90s nd 2000s where they were one of the best teams but didn't win anything. Winning matters and if certain players can't get you over the line, better to move away from them. Gill and Kuldeep are in that category right now. They've had enough opportunities and it's time for them to step up. If they can't there're others to take their places.
putrevus Posted March 7, 2025 Posted March 7, 2025 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ultimate_Game said: Winning titles matters. Aus team of late 90s and 2000s was GOATed not for reaching the finals but for winning trophies. Reaching finals and knockouts is not what defines legacy, winning tournaments and cups does. If you hit a ceiling with certain players you have to make changes to improve. If you're simply sated with reaching knockouts, you'll end up becoming SA of 90s nd 2000s where they were one of the best teams but didn't win anything. Winning matters and if certain players can't get you over the line, better to move away from them. Gill and Kuldeep are in that category right now. They've had enough opportunities and it's time for them to step up. If they can't there're others to take their places. No it doesn't , winning requires team effort. If bowlers like even Bumrah kept laying eggs what can batsmen do. Gill is just be fine and will be fine in future too. If you have moronic expecations, it is not fault of players. Edited March 7, 2025 by putrevus
Ultimate_Game Posted March 7, 2025 Author Posted March 7, 2025 34 minutes ago, putrevus said: No it doesn't , winning requires team effort. If bowlers like even Bumrah kept laying eggs what can batsmen do. Gill is just be fine and will be fine in future too. If you have moronic expecations, it is not fault of players. Expecting a batter to perform in knockouts and not fail in every big game isn't really "moronic". If they can't get past the knockout hurdle and can't perform there, move those players. Bumrah and bowlers have been let down by our batters time and again. Couldn't chast 239 in 2019, put up only 240 on the board in 2023, and Bumrah had to bail the batters out continuously in 2024 WT20. If we had a batting equivalent of Bumrah we probably have 3 ICC trophies over the last decade. rollingstoned 1
vvvslaxman Posted March 7, 2025 Posted March 7, 2025 Michael clarke thinks Gill will be MOM with a 100 in the final. He is trusting Gill too much.
saneindian Posted March 7, 2025 Posted March 7, 2025 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ultimate_Game said: Winning titles matters. Aus team of late 90s and 2000s was GOATed not for reaching the finals but for winning trophies. Reaching finals and knockouts is not what defines legacy, winning tournaments and cups does. If you hit a ceiling with certain players you have to make changes to improve. If you're simply sated with reaching knockouts, you'll end up becoming SA of 90s nd 2000s where they were one of the best teams but didn't win anything. Winning matters and if certain players can't get you over the line, better to move away from them. Gill and Kuldeep are in that category right now. They've had enough opportunities and it's time for them to step up. If they can't there're others to take their places. Dude, do you ever clock out from your non stop crying spree? I have read many of your posts from the 2023 World Cup — honestly, it’s almost impressive how you managed to drag every single player for the weirdest, most cooked-up reasons before the tournaments even began. And then, right on cue, you send the whole tournament desperately hunting for a couple of players to scapegoat — just to somehow validate your pre-tournament meltdowns. Now your latest obsessions are Gill and Kuldeep — because, let’s face it, your greatest hits didn’t quite age well. Kohli, the guy you declared ‘finished,’ somehow forgot to retire on your schedule. Rahul, who you swore didn’t belong in the XI, is casually winning matches. Shami, the ‘old man,’ keeps wrecking stumps for fun. Jadeja, who you confidently claimed shouldn’t even play ODIs, is still one of the first names on the team sheet. And Gambhir your personal punching bag is out here actually making good calls, like backing Varun, while you sit there foaming at the mouth. Look I get it, you practically live on ICF, and when you’ve got a daily quota of rage bait to hit you need to keep the negativity flowing. But after being wrong this often, for this long maybe just maybe show some basic self awareness and admit you screwed up. Once. Try it. Especially now that this team, with all the players you trashed, has become the best white ball side on the planet despite your constant crying fit. Edited March 7, 2025 by saneindian putrevus 1
coffee_rules Posted March 7, 2025 Posted March 7, 2025 Gill or Iyer will have to bat through their spinners. Otherwise we are cooked Ultimate_Game 1
vvvslaxman Posted March 7, 2025 Posted March 7, 2025 59 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Gill or Iyer will have to bat through their spinners. Otherwise we are cooked Gill is nervous in these games.Even in IPL he failed at his prime. If he sticks around after 10 or 15 overs I back him Ultimate_Game 1
Nikhil_cric Posted March 8, 2025 Posted March 8, 2025 If Matt Henry is unavailable and we, hopefully, bat first, Im expecting a match winning ton from Shubman
Adamant Posted March 8, 2025 Posted March 8, 2025 I am not sure about him, expecting him to score a brisk 40 odd , that will be enough. I don’t think of him as someone who can win a match on his own.
crictime Posted March 8, 2025 Posted March 8, 2025 He is a senior batsman now having played 54 ODI matches. He did score a 100 in the first match against Bangladesh carrying the team to victory till the winning run. Against Pakistan too he played a decent knock of 40 odd. His recent ODI form is excellent. He is due for another good contribution after not scoring in last two matches ( against Aus and NZ).
cowboysfan Posted March 8, 2025 Posted March 8, 2025 he needs to hunker down and play a selfish innings,we need stability at the top.
Chakdephatte Posted March 9, 2025 Posted March 9, 2025 Don't look for patterns in small samples. The same person has most number of runs after Raina jn IPL playoffs. His hundred against MI was the one of the most breathtaking playoffs performance. But he sucked at international matches in finals. Won't look much into it. There is no perfect player.
diga Posted March 9, 2025 Posted March 9, 2025 Got a new bat sponsor in MRF... and now goes for a good reflext catch from Philips
NameGoesHere Posted March 9, 2025 Posted March 9, 2025 (edited) wrong place Edited March 9, 2025 by NameGoesHere
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