Lone Wolf Posted April 28, 2025 Author Posted April 28, 2025 (edited) 13 minutes ago, rangeelaraja said: PL15 is not combat proven - and is compatible ONLY with Jf17 ...which is a much much more inferior aircraft than Rafale in every way. Meteor is combat proven in several wars. Just like AMRAAM was/is. The biggest difference is Meteor has huge no escape zone- more than any other air to air missile - meaning once target locked through Rafale's superior avionics and radar and fired ...it is almost a 100 % guaranteed kill. In theory I agree PL15 has a comparable range as Meteor..but its no escape zone is much much inferior to Meteor.. I agree that air superiority won't be easy ....but Pak will not be able to be airborne even in their own territory and feel safe if they are within range of airborne Rafales loaded with Meteors ----- this was not true in 2019- thats why they were able to do Operation SWift retort- they knew our limitations with long range capabilities. IAF has definitely worked on some of its shortcomings but I usually won't keep that much expectations from them... Numbers are just too few for my liking. IAF chief was publicly dissatisfied with HAL for a reason. Ultimately we will only see how it goes in real time. Also slight correction Pakistani J10c while not equipped with Pl15 but Pl15 e, armed with AESA with range of 145km. Jf17 is equipped with PL15 As of now 20 J10c are in number which PAF started getting during 2021. Edited April 28, 2025 by Lone Wolf
Gollum Posted April 28, 2025 Posted April 28, 2025 24 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: Terror attacks in other parts of India are major threat... Sleeper cells would be activated by ISI and ISPR already. God save Kolkata then.
Laaloo Posted April 28, 2025 Posted April 28, 2025 1 hour ago, Gollum said: Why are Ms doing riots/violence when some random guy insults Pak flag? Just what is it with this qaum? Similar news from Rajasthan, Karnataka, Telangana. They won't stand up for Vande Mataram, sometimes even national anthem. Riots? They're just spreading peace as per their book. raki05 1
Lone Wolf Posted April 28, 2025 Author Posted April 28, 2025 2 minutes ago, Gollum said: God save Kolkata then. Mumbai Kolkata Pune Hyd maybe Delhi.. who knows. These are the usual Hotspots
rangeelaraja Posted April 28, 2025 Posted April 28, 2025 1 minute ago, Gollum said: God save Kolkata then. For filthy snakes like Mahua Moitra and her ilk we should have life time imprisonment law for treasonous legacy media or SM conduct during war time. I don't wish as much ill for any Indian politician as I wish for this EVIL b*tch Mahua Moitra, she can sell her family for an MP seat and MP privileges. Mamata Begum comes a close second. raki05 and Gollum 1 1
Laaloo Posted April 28, 2025 Posted April 28, 2025 2 minutes ago, Gollum said: God save Kolkata then. God left Kolkata a long time ago. God will only protect those who can protect themselves. For some reason, this nonsense of ahimsa and god will save us mentality in the last 500-1000 years has destroyed our religion. Has rendered us helpless. When we realize that we are the original protectors and inhabitants of this great nation and start defending ourselves, that's when God will help us. raki05, Gollum, sorak and 1 other 2 2
rangeelaraja Posted April 28, 2025 Posted April 28, 2025 6 minutes ago, Gollum said: God save Kolkata then. Unless TMC party is swiped clean from Bengal and there is a Godhra 2002 like pressure release to keep peacefuls in check - It is likely that Bengal will be the next Kashmir. We still have time. Gollum 1
rangeelaraja Posted April 28, 2025 Posted April 28, 2025 One of our most respected voices. Lt General Sir KJS Dhillon. Teengunalagaan 1
Gollum Posted April 28, 2025 Posted April 28, 2025 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: Mumbai Kolkata Pune Hyd maybe Delhi.. who knows. These are the usual Hotspots 31 minutes ago, rangeelaraja said: For filthy snakes like Mahua Moitra and her ilk we should have life time imprisonment law for treasonous legacy media or SM conduct during war time. I don't wish as much ill for any Indian politician as I wish for this EVIL b*tch Mahua Moitra, she can sell her family for an MP seat and MP privileges. Mamata Begum comes a close second. 30 minutes ago, Laaloo said: God left Kolkata a long time ago. God will only protect those who can protect themselves. For some reason, this nonsense of ahimsa and god will save us mentality in the last 500-1000 years has destroyed our religion. Has rendered us helpless. When we realize that we are the original protectors and inhabitants of this great nation and start defending ourselves, that's when God will help us. Do you know which jihadi group caused max attacks in the UPA years? Not LeT, Jaish or some Pak group. It was Indian Mujahideen, founded and led by Bhatkal brothers. Post Batla house encounter their main guy Yasin Bhatkal was arrested in Kolkata but mysteriously let go, by then he had gained notoriety for 7-8 major bomb blasts, and continued to hurt us for few more years. Kolkata Police is built different, due to Left/TMC patronage, heavily compromised and filled with jihadi elements. Don't hesitate to gun down 2 dozen protesters in Darjeeling but won't lift their fingers when Hindus are butchered all across the state by Muslim mobs. Even the Hindus in that state's police force are weak, cowardly, effeminate. Edited April 28, 2025 by Gollum Lord, sorak, Lone Wolf and 1 other 1 3
G_B_ Posted April 28, 2025 Posted April 28, 2025 On 4/27/2025 at 4:46 PM, Lone Wolf said: Umm no... That's different those are MBRLs These are SPH's .. self propelled artillery. Right now India has 100 K9 Vajra while Pak has ,662 SPH in numbers. India only operates 100 Korean-made K-9 Vajra-T tracked SPHs, which is way less than the more than two hundred odd American-supplied M109 tracked SPHs. On top of it, the over 400 SH-15 MGS, which India has no answer to. These rumours of additional orders give Pakistan an even bigger advantage. https://www.google.com/amp/s/swarajyamag.com/amp/story/defence%2Fas-indias-procurement-of-mobile-155mm-artillery-guns-stalls-pakistan-races-ahead-with-its-chinese-made-sh-15-truck-mounted-howitzer The distance between lahore and the border is less than 40km. What advantage? I also dont understand, the point it to hit the opposition. Self propelled or not makes moot difference.
Lord Posted April 28, 2025 Posted April 28, 2025 38 minutes ago, Laaloo said: God left Kolkata a long time ago. God will only protect those who can protect themselves. For some reason, this nonsense of ahimsa and god will save us mentality in the last 500-1000 years has destroyed our religion. Has rendered us helpless. When we realize that we are the original protectors and inhabitants of this great nation and start defending ourselves, that's when God will help us. yes that and lack of unity is the reason minority dominates majority Laaloo 1
deathmonger Posted April 28, 2025 Posted April 28, 2025 1 hour ago, Gollum said: Can't rule out lone wolf attacks against Hindus in the West. Entire Islamic world will unite against us, not the leaders per se but people definitely. In fact Hindus will be safer in Gulf states than in Canada or UK. Those Arab monarchs know how to maintain law and order in their streets. Actually Pakistanis are dangerous. Other Muslims on the ground don't give much of an f. Kashmir is hardly Palestine. Don't go by social media. A lot of those are Pakistani accounts (pretending to be Arabs, Turks etc) or crazies. Most non Pakistani Bangladesh muslims are pretty comfy with Indians (not that there needs to be much interaction). UK is the most dangerous cause of Pakistani population. USA, Aus, NZ Indians are in huge numbers and are safe. Canada has Sikhs but they are not going to get into this. Pakistani are outnumbered by a big margin there too. Lord, Gollum, ravishingravi and 2 others 1 4
deathmonger Posted April 28, 2025 Posted April 28, 2025 1 hour ago, Lone Wolf said: IAF has definitely worked on some of its shortcomings but I usually won't keep that much expectations from them... Numbers are just too few for my liking. IAF chief was publicly dissatisfied with HAL for a reason. Ultimately we will only see how it goes in real time. Also slight correction Pakistani J10c while not equipped with Pl15 but Pl15 e, armed with AESA with range of 145km. Jf17 is equipped with PL15 As of now 20 J10c are in number which PAF started getting during 2021. Tbh with the economic gap they shouldn't be this close anyway. India should get the 100+ Rafales (or maybe skip for F-35/Su57 as stop gap) and make haste on Tejas variants and AMCA. Once you can do indigenous, just ramp up scale. Even if they are weaker than their counterparts, being indigenous means can mass produce. Even Chinese used Russian tech till 2000s before moving to domestic and now their fleet is huge. Nothing compensates for domestic ability. By 2050 (and the 6th gen fighter - whatever after AMCA) India should be at the cutting edge
deathmonger Posted April 28, 2025 Posted April 28, 2025 33 minutes ago, Gollum said: Do you know which jihadi group caused max attacks in the UPA years? Not LeT, Jaish or some Pak group. It was Indian Mujahideen, founded and led by Bhatkal brothers. Post Batla house encounter their main guy Yasin Bhatkal was arrested in Kolkata but mysteriously let go, by then he had gained notoriety for 7-8 major bomb blasts, and continued to hurt us for few more years. Kolkata Police is built different, due to Left/TMC patronage, heavily compromised and filled with jihadi elements. Don't hesitate to gun down 2 dozen protesters in Darjeeling but won't lift their fingers when Hindus are butchered all across the state by Muslim mobs. Even the Hindus in that state's police force are weak, cowardly, effeminate. BJP needs to win. That state is more Hindu than Assam but Assamese Hindus are killers unlike chutia Bengalis. Gollum 1
Lone Wolf Posted April 28, 2025 Author Posted April 28, 2025 (edited) 17 minutes ago, deathmonger said: Tbh with the economic gap they shouldn't be this close anyway. India should get the 100+ Rafales (or maybe skip for F-35/Su57 as stop gap) and make haste on Tejas variants and AMCA. Once you can do indigenous, just ramp up scale. Even if they are weaker than their counterparts, being indigenous means can mass produce. Even Chinese used Russian tech till 2000s before moving to domestic and now their fleet is huge. Nothing compensates for domestic ability. By 2050 (and the 6th gen fighter - whatever after AMCA) India should be at the cutting edge Yeah it is shocking that IAF is that much backward that we are competing with bankrupt PAF at this rate. Should not have been the case at all. But IAF's issues are tale as old as time.. PAF will soon start getting 5th gen J35 from 2028 onwards. So in all likelihood AMCA will be pushed further and India will be forced to explore F35, or Su57. Pick your poison. I agree TejasMK2 must be mass produced but HAL's incompetence knows no bounds as per IAF chief. Edited April 28, 2025 by Lone Wolf
Lone Wolf Posted April 28, 2025 Author Posted April 28, 2025 Gear up folks .. we are closer to the D Day
rangeelaraja Posted April 28, 2025 Posted April 28, 2025 2 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: Gear up folks .. we are closer to the D Day We should delay it, keep them frustrated and guessing, drain their resources and fuel, and then deliver a sledge hammer knockout blow when they are least expecting it and where it hurts most. Nothing hurts like a cold blooded surprise. Gollum and Laaloo 2
coffee_rules Posted April 28, 2025 Posted April 28, 2025 1 hour ago, Lord said: yes that and lack of unity is the reason minority dominates majority The 0.5 front was not activated during Kargil war. I have hopes that in an imminent war, they would still be contained. They are funded by Congress/opposition, they will not trigger their cells during a war . Hoping against hope Lord 1
mishra Posted April 28, 2025 Posted April 28, 2025 Most Indians think CPEC was Infra project. When CPEC purpose was switch ownership of Jihadi pet from USA to China.
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