Number Posted July 3 Posted July 3 In 51 innings he has reached double digits just 3 times (16,12,13). - Has a batting average of 4.7. - Most shocking is that the average number of balls he has faced per innings is just 7. - Can't expect him to be like England's tail who are naturally better batsmen but even the likes of Hazlewood and Lyon have improved over the years and have contributed to their team's wins, while Siraj has shown absolutely no improvement with the bat.
Number Posted July 3 Author Posted July 3 (edited) 6 minutes ago, nitinbwj said: Add Bumrah,Krishna Bumrah is a little better imo. At least has made a few contributions like one test in England with Shami. In Gabba he saved follow on with Akashdeep. Prasidh haven't seen much but from the looks of it he has the potential to match DSP Siraj. The way he went for hoick and got out after Brook sledged him last test was just embarassing. Edited July 3 by Number
Gollum Posted July 3 Posted July 3 Siraj doesn't care. He is just for the cameras. The most feckless cricketer I have seen. putrevus, cricspirit and Number 2 1
Stan AF Posted July 3 Posted July 3 Very good thread op. This fellow has been very much mediocre for far too long. Number 1
Gollum Posted July 3 Posted July 3 Drops catches Worst ever tailender Bowls well once in ten innings Laid eggs in WTC and WC finals Thuglike behavior onfield This is DSP Viv Siraj for you. EnterTheVoid, Number, Adamant and 1 other 3 1
nevada Posted July 3 Posted July 3 58 minutes ago, Number said: In 51 innings he has reached double digits just 3 times (16,12,13). - Has a batting average of 4.7. - Most shocking is that the average number of balls he has faced per innings is just 7. - Can't expect him to be like England's tail who are naturally better batsmen but even the likes of Hazlewood and Lyon have improved over the years and have contributed to their team's wins, while Siraj has shown absolutely no improvement with the bat. He has been mediocre in his primary skill set of bowling itself. Poor batting is like a bonus on top! Number 1
nevada Posted July 3 Posted July 3 22 minutes ago, Stan AF said: Very good thread op. This fellow has been very much mediocre for far too long. He has been coasting on the mediocre but mercurial quota for far too long! I would bench him and activate him only for games that Bumrah is skipping. This will hopefully light a fire and make him put up a good performance! If he can't do well even with this kind of arrangement, I would leave him out of the squad itself. Enough with extended mediocrity! Number and Stan AF 2
AuxiliA Posted July 3 Posted July 3 I wonder why don't long term bowling prospects learn a bit of batting. They earn enough money to hire personal batting coaches and buy high tech bowling machines. All they need is a small effort. That will also improve their international career opportunities. Just ask Shardul Thakur. express bowling and Number 2
singhvivek141 Posted July 3 Posted July 3 This trend of being "specialist" in one department is more visible with trundlers in recent times. Umesh Yadav, Isshant, Bumrah all were duds with the bat. But gradually improved their batting. Shami was handy with bat from start. While Bhuvi, who when came to scene was a capable batter, became worse than the names above. Except Chahar and Thakur, I don't recall any medium pacer who became a dependable batter. Siraj is anyway leader of the pack. It all depends on your motivation, some people, when a accumulate a certain amount of wealth. Just cruise through their jobs in an auto pilot mode doing bare minimum to survive. Siraj has become of them. nevada 1
nevada Posted July 3 Posted July 3 13 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said: This trend of being "specialist" in one department is more visible with trundlers in recent times. Umesh Yadav, Isshant, Bumrah all were duds with the bat. But gradually improved their batting. Shami was handy with bat from start. While Bhuvi, who when came to scene was a capable batter, became worse than the names above. Except Chahar and Thakur, I don't recall any medium pacer who became a dependable batter. Siraj is anyway leader of the pack. It all depends on your motivation, some people, when a accumulate a certain amount of wealth. Just cruise through their jobs in an auto pilot mode doing bare minimum to survive. Siraj has become of them. Umesh could tonk a few sixes. Ishant could defend and hold one end up, allowing the specialist batsman at the other end to bat freely. I don't have an issue with a specialist #X1 batsman provided they are consistently delivering in their primary skill set. Can we even imagine a McGrath, a Donald, a Steyn or a Walsh bowling like crap for an extended period while in their prime age of 30-31?
The Realist Posted July 3 Posted July 3 (edited) 2 hours ago, Number said: In 51 innings he has reached double digits just 3 times (16,12,13). - Has a batting average of 4.7. - Most shocking is that the average number of balls he has faced per innings is just 7. - Can't expect him to be like England's tail who are naturally better batsmen but even the likes of Hazlewood and Lyon have improved over the years and have contributed to their team's wins, while Siraj has shown absolutely no improvement with the bat. "Under the watchful eyes of batting coach Sitanshu Kotak, Siraj was seen working extensively on his defensive game. He practised ducking under short balls, leaving deliveries outside off, and playing soft-handed forward defences. For a bowler not known for his batting prowess, this was no ordinary net routine; it appeared to be a clear instruction from the management to bolster India’s tail-end resistance." Mohammed Siraj's unusual act during India's net session ahead of 2nd Test hints at stern message from Gautam Gambhir | Cricket PR nonsense but more importantly who the F is that batting coach? Edited July 3 by The Realist Number 1
goose Posted July 3 Posted July 3 he's a gambler. that's how he both bats and bowls. every ball is an event. he doesn't have a system
StraightDrive26 Posted July 3 Posted July 3 The entire Indian lower order is the worst in the world. No other team has such poor batters who are bowlers. They don't even try to stay at the wicket. If we are 7 down, it is almost as good as all-out. The lower order has no game awareness and even when some batter is on the other end out lower order will still slog. In the last Test as well when Jadeja was at the other end our lower order just threw their wicket away. The only time they should bat that way is when number 10 and 11 are at the crease. India need to correct this issue and reprimand the bowling unit. I understand it is not their job to bat but they need to at least be able to stick around when a batter is at the other end. Australia did that so effectively in the 90's and early 2000's. Even Glen Mcgrath who was a proper number 11, used to put price on his wicket. India in the last 2 Tests lost 6 wickets for next to nothing in the both the innings and our tail did not put any effort to stay at the crease. Blaming Siraj along is wrong. Even Ishant Sharma who had 0 batting talent used to try and stay at the crease and put a value on his wicket. Remember he stayed with Laxman when we were chasing in the 4th innings against Australia. I wouldn't trust any of our current bowlers to stick around in such chase ever. Adamant 1
Suhaan Posted July 3 Posted July 3 After Zaheer, Harbhajan,Pathan,Ishant Indian lower order has never recovered
R!TTER Posted July 3 Posted July 3 I blame this guy - Lord Thodi si hawa di aur miya sir pe chadh gaye
nevada Posted July 3 Posted July 3 2 hours ago, goose said: he's a gambler. that's how he both bats and bowls. every ball is an event. he doesn't have a system A gambler has an idea what he is doing, however badly the odds are stacked against him. This guy seems to have no idea nor control over what he is doing!
nevada Posted July 3 Posted July 3 53 minutes ago, Suhaan said: After Zaheer, Harbhajan,Pathan,Ishant Indian lower order has never recovered Ashwin was the last of the premier bowlers with decent batting ability and clutchness. Bhajji was amazing, would come up with quick and clutch runs time to time. He even has back to back test centuries. We can only dream of having such contributions from our bowlers these days!
R!TTER Posted July 3 Posted July 3 Tbf Bumrah has improved a bit, so did Shami, but then we have all (hot) air no brains Siraj & arguably the worst excuse of a test player PK in the side right now
putrevus Posted July 3 Posted July 3 His batting would have been okay if he was like Mcgrath with ball in hand. He has been useless with ball for such a long time.
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