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'If Virat Kohli batted instead of Shubman Gill, he would've slammed a century': India captain told to avoid aggression

Shubman Gill's tentative approach at Lord's drew criticism from former cricketers. Unlike Virat Kohli, who thrived on aggression, Gill struggled under pressure.

Whenever Virat Kohli's name has come up during the India vs England Test series, it has not always been because of his batting. The way he used to carry himself in the field, look the opposition in the eye, gear up the crowd and motivate the bowlers and fielders, has been equally (if not more) talked about during various stages of the Test match, especially when India haven't done well. And mind you, there haven't been a lot of sessions in this series where India didn't do well.

 

India's Shubman Gill (R) and Virat Kohli(AFP)

India's Shubman Gill (R) and Virat Kohli(AFP)

 

Noted former cricketers like Ravi Shastri and Nasser Hussain said India's new captain, Shubman Gill, despite all his success with the bat, lacked the aggression and the attitude when India couldn't bowl England out on Day 5 at Headingley. The hosts chased down 371 to take a 1-0 lead. And when Gill did try to take the aggressive route, by getting into an ugly feud with England openers Zak Crawley and Ben Duckett right at the end of Day 3 at Lord's, it backfired.

 

 

It not only fired up England, in former fast bowler Stuart Broad, in a way he had never seen, but also put unnecessary pressure on Gill when he came out to bat late on Day 4. The England fielders hounded the Indian captain, who, despite being the highest scorer of this series with three centuries, including a record-breaking 269, looked tentative and out of sorts.

Gill missed a full toss at the start of his innings and was eventually dismissed for a 9-ball 6. Former India cricketer Sanjay Manjrekar warned Shubman Gill not to get caught in the brand-building exercise based on an image that doesn't suit him naturally.

 

"If somebody wants to build a brand by saying, we are Indians, we are not less than anyone. That (The thought process) gets a lot of attention and mileage. I hope Shubman Gill wasn't doing it for that," Manjrekar said on JioHotstar.

 

‘Aggression doesn’t come naturally to Shubman Gill like it did to Virat Kohli'

Manjrekar added that Virat Kohli loved to pick up a fight with the opposition because that got the best out of him. He believed that Kohli would have slammed a century at Lord's in the second innings if he had come out to bat at that stage. But Gill, instead looked very timid and unnatural during his stay in the middle.

 

 

"What Virat Kohli did was second nature to him. His cricket and batting used to get enhanced by that. Shubman Gill, I'm not sure whether this (aggression) comes naturally to him. If Virat Kohli had come out to bat, he would have looked into the face of those people and got a hundred. But if you looked at Shubman Gill's body language, the man who has almost batted like Bradman, was so tentative. The way he batted in those 9 balls seemed like he had gotten a pair. That is a clear message to me that aggression may not be his natural demeanour or approach," he added.

Gill's fight with Crawley had a long-lasting impact on the third Test. England came out firing with the ball and gave a hard time to India's top order. England captain Ben Stokes bowled two marathon spells, and Jofra Archer dished out telling blows on Day 5. Despite a late fight from Ravindra Jadeja and the tail, India fell short of the 193-run target by 22 runs.

 

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Enough of Kohli this and that, he stunk for five years and lost the will to compete .After what Gill did in 2nd test he was bound to have let down. These idiots are piling on him for no reason.

 

It would best for Gill to be himself, he has to form his own identity as a captain. All the loses and wins will be under his name.

 

He has to be bold on the field, if he does that he will be just fine in long run.

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Posted
1 hour ago, goose said:

i agree with this. aggression and steel come in many forms. kohli agression wont work for gill, kohli got away with it because everyone knew the prick cant help himself 

Even i don't want his aggression. Let him follow Rahane as an example. Much better example.

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5 hours ago, Gollum said:

Since Tendulkar's retirement, India has 2 successful 150+ chases, Gabba and Ranchi '24. Kohli didn't play either of those games. 

 

Around 7-8 unsuccessful chases in that time with 'Clutch' Kohli failing everytime

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2 minutes ago, putrevus said:

How is this Kohli PR, did he ask these guys to say these things.

yes to make himself look good. 

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18 minutes ago, Lord said:

yes to make himself look good. 

Wow, so he is paying Hussain and company to say these things about him.

 

 

Where do you get this information. 

Posted
5 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Wow, so he is paying Hussain and company to say these things about him.

 

 

Where do you get this information. 

 

Talking about Manjrekar

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18 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

Talking about Manjrekar

Hussain said after first test Gill missed the intensity of Kohli and Now manju. I would love to know where are getting this information about payments.

 

So Kohli is paying all these guys to say nice things about him.

Edited by putrevus
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Kohli thriving on aggression is a myth, a big fat lie.  His fans/ PR used to refer to that MCG test to show that how aggression bring the best out of him.

 

But the truth is  Kohli lost his cool after that brief altercation with Johnson and almost threw his wicket in that MCG test in 2014. Someone dropped his catch and then it was Rahane who calm him down. Those who follow that match live knew this. 

 

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1 hour ago, putrevus said:

 

So Kohli is paying all these guys to say nice things about him.

I think his PR is handled by MS, who in turn was funded by CIA, Mossad & the Trump cabal :wp78:

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1 minute ago, Insidious said:

Kohli thriving on aggression is a myth, a big fat lie. 

No one thrives on aggression, literally no one alive ever! Excess adrenaline hampers your decision making, anyone thinking otherwise is a cuckold of the highest order :scooter:

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Sachin failed  in most 4th innings chases other than Chennai 2008  just like most other Indian batsmen.


 

How many 4th innings chases India has in their history. 406 in 1977 against WI comes to mind.

 

Sydney 2004,  and Laxman had couple against SL and Mohali.Most  successful chases have to have good opening partnership. 
 

Kl Rahul was designated opener in many of those chases .

 

 

 

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What a load of BS -

 

This is 90% of his career, 60% of which was playing in a 6/7th ranked test side till 2001 & the stats are "shocking" I know :potstir:

Primary team India 
Start of match date between 1 Jan 1989 and 31 Dec 2008 
Innings in match 4th innings 
Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 500 
Ordered by batting average (descending)
Overall figures
Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s  
R Dravid 1996-2008 50 44 15 1297 103* 44.72 3257 39.82 1 9 0 163 2  
SC Ganguly 1996-2008 43 32 9 864 101* 37.56 1571 54.99 1 3 3 124 5  
SR Tendulkar 1989-2008 56 46 13 1212 136 36.72 2388 50.75 3 3 3 162 2  
VVS Laxman 1996-2008 39 28 6 699 74 31.77 1475 47.38 0 4 2 94 1  
V Sehwag 2001-2008 24 20 3 539 83 31.70 701 76.89 0 4 4 74 9  

 

 

If you take the more generous timespan when we were a top 3 side, even then his numbers are well above avg -

 
Primary team India 
Start of match date between 1 Jan 2001 and 31 Dec 2010 
Innings in match 4th innings 
Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 200 
Ordered by batting average (descending)
Overall figures
Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s  
Yuvraj Singh 2004-2010 14 8 3 266 122 53.20 458 58.07 1 1 1 36 2  
G Gambhir 2004-2010 10 10 5 250 66 50.00 523 47.80 0 2 1 33 0  
VVS Laxman 2001-2010 34 22 7 725 103* 48.33 1267 57.22 1 4 0 98 1  
SR Tendulkar 2001-2010 34 26 8 829 103* 46.05 1585 52.30 1 4 1 104 4  
R Dravid 2001-2010 40 33 12 923 87 43.95 2305 40.04 0 7 0 122 1  
SC Ganguly 2001-2008 27 19 6 472 98* 36.30 818 57.70 0 2 1 72 0  
SS Das 2001-2002 8 7 1 209 82* 34.83 584 35.78 0 2 1 25 0  
V Sehwag 2001-2010 30 25 5 617 83 30.85 789 78.20 0 5 5 83 10  
W Jaffer 2002-2008 13 13 0 377 100 29.00 780 48.33 1 3 1 47 0  
MS Dhoni 2006-2010 21 9 1 230 76* 28.75 453 50.77 0 1 0 33 2  

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