It is absolutely legitimate keeping england for 10 more overs

[vvvslaxman]

 

[vvvslaxman]

Ashwin is furious at Crawley and Stokes. He feels INdia should have batted all the overs lol

[Number]

Why were English cricketers pundits offended when we didn't agree for the draw ?

Some of them even refused to shake hands.

Both the teams have right to play as long as they feel they should.

[Lord]

 

[bowl_out]

4 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

Ashwin is furious at Crawley and Stokes. He feels INdia should have batted all the overs lol

Most of us do too

[Gollum]

We really should have batted all the overs. If their part timers wanted to do comedy, not our problem, just tonk them and add another 100 runs in final hour. Punish their bratty behavior. 

 

I don't think even RSA, Aus would have stooped that low....they are led by proper gentlemen, Bavuma and Cummins. And NZ of course would have created zero drama, for all the flak we give them, they conduct themselves really well, especially the last 10 years. Just an English uppity thing, entitlement. 

[vvvslaxman]

7 minutes ago, Gollum said:

We really should have batted all the overs. If their part timers wanted to do comedy, not our problem, just tonk them and add another 100 runs in final hour. Punish their bratty behavior. 

 

I don't think even RSA, Aus would have stooped that low....they are led by proper gentlemen, Bavuma and Cummins. And NZ of course would have created zero drama, for all the flak we give them, they conduct themselves really well, especially the last 10 years. Just an English uppity thing, entitlement. 

Watch grade cricketer. They ripped England to shreds.

[Bigg Brother]

Stokes - Let's handshake

 

Jaddu- Nah,Not in my control

 

Stokes- I'm gonna whine and cry a river over that 

 

 

English Cricketers and media are known to make an issue out of nothing. Smith,Duckett and Crawley were shouting from behind "get on with it Washi" when he was defending Brook on 95. Totally ridiculous behaviour by these nobodies. Brook chickened out before India tour last year, same with Stokes before 2021 tour. These are highly entitled nobodies averaging 30-35 in test cricket despite playing in favourable conditions all those years. I wonder How Baz would be handling this crybabies who himself was gentleman during his playing days.

[Nikhil_cric]

5 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

Ashwin is furious at Crawley and Stokes. He feels INdia should have batted all the overs lol

I agree. Gill should have batted till EOD

[nevada]

3 hours ago, Lord said:

 

If he truly didn't want to risk his front line bowlers, he would have fought against road like pitches which are killing the bowlers! 

[Sandz]

Whinging poms. They getting panned in Aus SM for being cry babies.

[goose]

this comedy gold !

 

 

 

 

 

[coffee_rules]

Damn I used to like Stokes as. A player. Now, he will go to the same list of Ponting and others to hate as a sore loser. wtf ! He is chanting o want to shake your hand!! Chutiya saala

[Tillu]

If they don't value personal milestones like they say, why do they have honours board at the Lords.

[mishra]

You create a Bazball track for Tests and then when opposition played the same game as you, You start thinking Oh , My bowlers may get injured.

 

The only reason Stoksey came to shake hand was to deny Hard earned century for two bats. Absolutely wrong from Gill and Co not to bat 10 more overs and made Stoksey understand to provide better pitches.

 

If not the  Lowest point on sportmanship in History of cricket in last decade, its not far off.

[vvvslaxman]

1 hour ago, Tillu said:

If they don't value personal milestones like they say, why do they have honours board at the Lords.

They were going gaga when Root went past Ponting lol

[coffee_rules]

Great critique of Stokes, English on personal milestones.

 

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/eng-vs-ind-4th-test-cricket-must-be-played-by-the-rules-not-ben-stokes-moral-code-1497091

 

 

The meltdown that ensued can happen in the heat of the moment. When you are at the absolute brink of physical endurance - like England were - the mind can get frayed. However, even after he had had an hour to think about his actions, Stokes still chose to virtue-signal. When asked if he would have pulled the plug on a young batter a few hits away from a maiden Test century after having batted through the day, Stokes said he couldn't see how the extra ten runs made any difference to what Washington and Jadeja had already done.

 

If this piece was about whataboutism, it would have pointed out the Wellington declaration, made soon after Root's century to set New Zealand a target of 583, or the declaration with a 352-run lead against Ireland in 2023, made soon after Ollie Pope's double-century.

 

Those extra few runs were not making a difference to England's team goals, but this is not about that at all.

It is about not trying to impose your values on others.

If this was done to gain some kind of competitive advantage, it would have still been fine. This, unfortunately, came across as moral posturing, which is highly avoidable, at all times. It is regrettable that it came on the watch of an otherwise great ambassador for the game

[vvvslaxman]

2 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

Great critique of Stokes, English on personal milestones.

 

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/eng-vs-ind-4th-test-cricket-must-be-played-by-the-rules-not-ben-stokes-moral-code-1497091

 

 

The meltdown that ensued can happen in the heat of the moment. When you are at the absolute brink of physical endurance - like England were - the mind can get frayed. However, even after he had had an hour to think about his actions, Stokes still chose to virtue-signal. When asked if he would have pulled the plug on a young batter a few hits away from a maiden Test century after having batted through the day, Stokes said he couldn't see how the extra ten runs made any difference to what Washington and Jadeja had already done.

 

If this piece was about whataboutism, it would have pointed out the Wellington declaration, made soon after Root's century to set New Zealand a target of 583, or the declaration with a 352-run lead against Ireland in 2023, made soon after Ollie Pope's double-century.

 

Those extra few runs were not making a difference to England's team goals, but this is not about that at all.

It is about not trying to impose your values on others.

If this was done to gain some kind of competitive advantage, it would have still been fine. This, unfortunately, came across as moral posturing, which is highly avoidable, at all times. It is regrettable that it came on the watch of an otherwise great ambassador for the game

 

 

Simple explanation is he did not want two Indian batsmen leaving the field with more confidence. So he wanted to terminate the innings before that. That was the real objective. Everything else is BS. 

[coffee_rules]

15 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

 

Simple explanation is he did not want two Indian batsmen leaving the field with more confidence. So he wanted to terminate the innings before that. That was the real objective. Everything else is BS. 

Petty sore loser. I would blame his frustration to PMS.

[goose]

Geoffery Boycott : Gobby England are in the wrong, no one could have dragged me off on 89.