Trichromatic Posted November 15, 2025 Posted November 15, 2025 And please talk about greentops or seamer friendly pitches. There is enough examples to show greentops have chances to become good batting tracks on day 3 and 4 or pitch with moisture becoming batting track once it dries up or swing which has nothing to do with pitch. Those pitches are also at times good for stroke play, so attacking batsmen can still play blinders. Uneven bounce, dry dustbowl become worse as time progresses and present ugly viewing. Matches are boring and hardly bring any good memories. rollingstoned and nevada 1 1
Trichromatic Posted November 15, 2025 Author Posted November 15, 2025 No wonder Indian test matches are boring, dull and hardly close matches. Last England series was good when pitches were good. Rightarmfast 1
Suhaan Posted November 15, 2025 Posted November 15, 2025 Even these newcomers will loose confidence on these surfaces express bowling 1
Tillu Posted November 15, 2025 Posted November 15, 2025 We'll never see another 50+ averaging batsman with these kind of pitches.
Trichromatic Posted November 15, 2025 Author Posted November 15, 2025 19 minutes ago, Tillu said: We'll never see another 50+ averaging batsman with these kind of pitches. We will never see any good cricket on such pitches.
zen Posted November 15, 2025 Posted November 15, 2025 Have been writing about bad pitches in India for a long time. And advocated for relatively sporting pitches. Good to see that many Ashwin and Jadeja fans now realizing the folly of such pitches. nevada 1
putrevus Posted November 15, 2025 Posted November 15, 2025 (edited) 1 hour ago, Trichromatic said: No wonder Indian test matches are boring, dull and hardly close matches. Last England series was good when pitches were good. Close matches happen when teams are equal. They don't need to play on these wickets but please no thanks to pitches like England series.They were played on some of the flattest decks where even ordinary batsmen were filling their boots. India had very good pitches for Indian conditions for most matches from say 2009 to 2019. They then started playing on these uneven bunsen burners . They have ruined Indian batsmen. Edited November 15, 2025 by putrevus
neel roy Posted November 15, 2025 Posted November 15, 2025 Best pitches were the england tour of India. Every pitch was good. England fought well. Duckett scored tons, root played well. bashir bowled well .. bumrah was outstanding.. stokes was amazing first few tests.. all in all a great series. Could have easily been 3-2 if jurel didnt play that mammoth innings.. Gollum 1
Gollum Posted November 15, 2025 Posted November 15, 2025 (edited) You can have high scoring turners like Chennai 2013, Mumbai 2016, Indore 2016. All those games saw individual 200s, muliple 100s. What they all had was consistent, predictable, good bounce. Here, uneven bounce has caused havoc, and also made pacers dangerous. Edited November 15, 2025 by Gollum nevada 1
Gollum Posted November 15, 2025 Posted November 15, 2025 (edited) 1 hour ago, neel roy said: Best pitches were the england tour of India. Every pitch was good. England fought well. Duckett scored tons, root played well. bashir bowled well .. bumrah was outstanding.. stokes was amazing first few tests.. all in all a great series. Could have easily been 3-2 if jurel didnt play that mammoth innings.. Even the same team, RSA in 2019. Great pitches. Rohit, Mayank, Kohli all scored 200s I think. Umesh, Shami, spinners all were among wickets. Here HS is 39 by KL, only one other batsman has crossed the 30 mark. Edited November 15, 2025 by Gollum putrevus 1
Laaloo Posted November 15, 2025 Posted November 15, 2025 They should only play in Narendra Modi Stadium That's a perfect test pitch putrevus 1
putrevus Posted November 15, 2025 Posted November 15, 2025 2 hours ago, Gollum said: Even the same team, RSA in 2019. Great pitches. Rohit, Mayank, Kohli all scored 200s I think. Umesh, Shami, spinners all were among wickets. Here HS is 39 by KL, only one other batsman has crossed the 30 mark. 2019 series were excellent pitches. They had something for everyone. Gollum 1
Gollum Posted November 15, 2025 Posted November 15, 2025 1 minute ago, putrevus said: 2019 series were excellent pitches. They had something for everyone. Peak Kohli era (before pandemic) had the best pitches in our test history. No wonder a world class pace unit emerged, guys like Kohli and Pujara averaged in 60s at home, and very few draws. Kohli was brave enough to go for a greentop against NZ (Boult,Henry, Southee, Wagner) in 2016 Kolkata, that was his aura and confidence in his quicks, even Bhuvi. 2016-17 home season was the peak of test cricket in India, 3 tests vs NZ, 5 vs Eng, 4 vs Aus, all played before jam packed crowds who always matched Kohli's energy. He revived test cricket in India. Pandemic ruined everything. G_B_, GoldenSun, New guy and 1 other 3 1
Trichromatic Posted November 16, 2025 Author Posted November 16, 2025 8 hours ago, putrevus said: Close matches happen when teams are equal. They don't need to play on these wickets but please no thanks to pitches like England series.They were played on some of the flattest decks where even ordinary batsmen were filling their boots. India had very good pitches for Indian conditions for most matches from say 2009 to 2019. They then started playing on these uneven bunsen burners . They have ruined Indian batsmen. I was talking about England series in India. putrevus 1
putrevus Posted November 16, 2025 Posted November 16, 2025 5 hours ago, Gollum said: Peak Kohli era (before pandemic) had the best pitches in our test history. No wonder a world class pace unit emerged, guys like Kohli and Pujara averaged in 60s at home, and very few draws. Kohli was brave enough to go for a greentop against NZ (Boult,Henry, Southee, Wagner) in 2016 Kolkata, that was his aura and confidence in his quicks, even Bhuvi. 2016-17 home season was the peak of test cricket in India, 3 tests vs NZ, 5 vs Eng, 4 vs Aus, all played before jam packed crowds who always matched Kohli's energy. He revived test cricket in India. Pandemic ruined everything. Kohli's passion to play every match hard was the main reason why I liked him, he played hard every day plus he gave everything he had to lift test cricket.Win or lose he was 100 percent. He revived Shami, Ishant and Umesh.They were left to die under Dhoni.He was the engine behind the pace bowling renaissance. No Indian captain comes close for what he did for Indian cricket.We saw fittest Indian team and that was due to him. Unlike this idiot Gambhir who spews jingoistic nonsense and nothing else. rollingstoned, New guy and Gollum 3
rkt.india Posted November 16, 2025 Posted November 16, 2025 11 hours ago, putrevus said: Close matches happen when teams are equal. They don't need to play on these wickets but please no thanks to pitches like England series.They were played on some of the flattest decks where even ordinary batsmen were filling their boots. India had very good pitches for Indian conditions for most matches from say 2009 to 2019. They then started playing on these uneven bunsen burners . They have ruined Indian batsmen. England pitches were good test pitches. All tests lasted five days, 4 had results, one had heard fought draw. They weren't bad pitches. You don't want matches ending in 3-4 days. People have become so used to 3 day tests that test lasting five days are being called bad pitches now.
jf1gp_1 Posted November 16, 2025 Posted November 16, 2025 Just seems India England test series are the most entertaining irrespective of where they are played.
Gollum Posted November 16, 2025 Posted November 16, 2025 54 minutes ago, rkt.india said: England pitches were good test pitches. All tests lasted five days, 4 had results, one had heard fought draw. They weren't bad pitches. You don't want matches ending in 3-4 days. People have become so used to 3 day tests that test lasting five days are being called bad pitches now. Ind vs Eng in Ind last year had better pitches. Plenty of runs on offer (Jaiswal 700+) but also enough help to bowlers, both pacers and spinners. Pitches in Eng were a bit too flat, and no help for spin even on day 5.
nevada Posted November 16, 2025 Posted November 16, 2025 If losing this series 0-2 finally changes things, so be it. So sick and tired of these disgraceful pitches! And laying out such tracks isn't a guarantee for a win either, as evidenced by the sound thrashing at the hands of NZ not long ago!
Gollum Posted November 16, 2025 Posted November 16, 2025 3 hours ago, putrevus said: Kohli's passion to play every match hard was the main reason why I liked him, he played hard every day plus he gave everything he had to lift test cricket.Win or lose he was 100 percent. He revived Shami, Ishant and Umesh.They were left to die under Dhoni.He was the engine behind the pace bowling renaissance. No Indian captain comes close for what he did for Indian cricket.We saw fittest Indian team and that was due to him. Unlike this idiot Gambhir who spews jingoistic nonsense and nothing else. Ultimately it was the extreme passion which made him burn out faster than expected. Root, Smith never overspent their mental/emotional reserves like Kohli. The energy Kohli brought as captain is unique in test history. Opponent 250/3, India looking listless, and he would pump up his team mates, involve the crowd, bring us right back into the game in one session.
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