Sgattick10 Posted February 12 Posted February 12 1 hour ago, mishra said: On serious note, Its going to be slippery slope for ICC. NIP it in bud Punjabi bagh ke harharharharbhajaan singh
goose Posted February 12 Posted February 12 icf has gone from vowing not have an india pak thread to formulating stratetgy to neutralize the threat from their new spinner ! singhvivek141, Master_better, cric_fan and 1 other 4
vvvslaxman Posted February 12 Posted February 12 (edited) 1 hour ago, mishra said: On serious note, Its going to be slippery slope for ICC. NIP it in bud Shivam's bowling was called dead ball for 360 degree spinning while releasing the ball. Edited February 12 by vvvslaxman Sandz 1
bsriharsha Posted February 12 Posted February 12 Remove the slight mystery part from him , and he's an average bowler. Wish we had someone like Sehwag now. Best player of offspin that I've seen. He dismantled Mendis big time.
vvvslaxman Posted February 12 Posted February 12 (edited) we should be alright if we preserve wickets Edited February 12 by vvvslaxman tapandrun 1
putrevus Posted February 12 Posted February 12 If you need help dealing with Putrid Pakistan team then you better stay home and not travel to Sri Lanka. India should be beating Pakistan with its under19 team.
vvvslaxman Posted February 12 Posted February 12 4 hours ago, bsriharsha said: Remove the slight mystery part from him , and he's an average bowler. Wish we had someone like Sehwag now. Best player of offspin that I've seen. He dismantled Mendis big time. It is a novely due to unfamiliarity. Over a period you will get cues.
tapandrun Posted February 12 Posted February 12 (edited) here is some data based on simple google search :: Pak batter's sr vs SLA :: Babar Azam ~100–115 Sahibzada Farhan ~112–118 Fakhar Zaman ~121 Saim Ayub ~114 Usman khab ~115 Vs off-spin:: Babar Azam ~125–130 Saim Ayub ~135–140 Sahibzada Farhan ~145+ Fakhar Zaman ~140+ Usman Khan ~130–140 Rest Varun, and have axar, Abhishek (if fit), Rinku, Verma, Sky, bowl few over vs Pak. if pitch is to assist spin then it would assist them too. For off-spin just dart across from round the wkt and pack offside field jst chk how good is the side without varun and abhishek Edited February 12 by tapandrun
IndianRenegade Posted February 12 Posted February 12 (edited) His round arm action is fine, but he should not be allowed to pause. I know the current rules allow a bowler to pause if that is normally part of their action, this is a loophole. Lets walk through what a problem. Why is a pause not allowed, normally? Because it is a distraction & bowler can suddenly bowl the ball while the batter least expects. Why is a pause allowed if its normally part of the bowler action? Because the batter now expects the bowler to pause. But here is the problem, who is counting? Let say the bowler pauses for a 1 second usually & suddenly pauses for 2 seconds. How is it different from a bowler who never pauses & pauses for a second? The batter can still be ditracted by the length of pause which could be subttle. pauses should not be allowed period. Edited February 12 by IndianRenegade
figo6762 Posted February 13 Posted February 13 New rule spinner should deliver the ball in 10 seconds . From the start of his run up . How he uses the 10 seconds it’s up to him or her
jf1gp_1 Posted February 13 Posted February 13 All Indians are scared of Tariq and this pakistani team. I expect him to run through Indian side and after a pak win all pak players will pray infront of Hindu players so that waqar can enjoy.
tapandrun Posted February 13 Posted February 13 (edited) Ashiwin in one of his podcast made a good point that if batters think they can pull out of the shot once he pauses. This is a good point, his pause is to distract batter than batter should should distract him back. either umpire will tell the batter to not do that again or will ask tariq to stop pausing, per rule Tarriq is allowed to pause and same with the batter they are allowed to pull-out if they fell some distraction, it wont look nice but it is what it is. fake pull out law 41.4 can be applied here, Edited February 13 by tapandrun Gollum 1
bsriharsha Posted February 13 Posted February 13 3 hours ago, IndianRenegade said: His round arm action is fine, but he should not be allowed to pause. I know the current rules allow a bowler to pause if that is normally part of their action, this is a loophole. Lets walk through what a problem. Why is a pause not allowed, normally? Because it is a distraction & bowler can suddenly bowl the ball while the batter least expects. Why is a pause allowed if its normally part of the bowler action? Because the batter now expects the bowler to pause. But here is the problem, who is counting? Let say the bowler pauses for a 1 second usually & suddenly pauses for 2 seconds. How is it different from a bowler who never pauses & pauses for a second? The batter can still be ditracted by the length of pause which could be subttle. pauses should not be allowed period. Also, after the pause to generate the pace that he does, there needs to be bending of the arm involved as well. Tests prove that he can bowl that delivery legally, not that in match day, he will bowl every delivery legally.
IndianRenegade Posted February 13 Posted February 13 (edited) 25 minutes ago, bsriharsha said: Also, after the pause to generate the pace that he does, there needs to be bending of the arm involved as well. Tests prove that he can bowl that delivery legally, not that in match day, he will bowl every delivery legally. what does this have anything to do with what I said? Edited February 13 by IndianRenegade
jf1gp_1 Posted February 13 Posted February 13 27 minutes ago, tapandrun said: Ashiwin in one of his podcast made a good point that if batters think they can pull out of the shot once he pauses. This is a good point, his pause is to distract batter than batter should should distract him back. either umpire will tell the batter to not do that again or will ask tariq to stop pausing, per rule Tarriq is allowed to pause and same with the batter they are allowed to pull-out if they fell some distraction, it wont look nice but it is what it is. fake pull out law 41.4 can be applied here, How many wickets have Tariq taken against India ? 50 or 100?
tapandrun Posted February 13 Posted February 13 7 minutes ago, jf1gp_1 said: How many wickets have Tariq taken against India ? 50 or 100? he is yet to play a game vs Ind. The post was regarding the action and pause and wht rules says. Already pointed out its not hard to play tariq or hit 4/6 vs him, its just the novelty that is part of discussion and concern.
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