Atleast under MS Dhoni we used to win at home

[BeautifulGame]

 

 Only 15 times out of   61  test innings in India ( he has batted in the top 6  )

 

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/28081.html?class=1;home_or_away=1;template=results;type=batting;view=innings

 

 

How many times has Dhoni batted at 6 even in India?

He started batting during the England series after realizing we lacked the bowling to take 20 wickets and needed 5 bowlers .

He batted the entire AUS series at 6 and obviously didn't get a chance again in India as he retired .He didn't bat more in the past because we never struggled at home to take 20 wickets so always played 4 bowlers .

Again if Ashwin and Jadeja prove to be world class and we settle with 4 bowlers then we will miss him less (as Ashwin Jadeja and Saha at 7,8&9) can to some extent make up for Dhoni's batting at 7 .

But if we again struggle to take 20 with 4 bowlers and decide to go for 5th bowler solely miss the batting of Dhoni .It's that simple really .

[rkt.india]

20 minutes ago, BeautifulGame said:

 

He started batting during the England series after realizing we lacked the bowling to take 20 wickets and needed 5 bowlers .

He batted the entire AUS series at 6 and obviously didn't get a chance again in India as he retired .He didn't bat more in the past because we never struggled at home to take 20 wickets so always played 4 bowlers .

Again if Ashwin and Jadeja prove to be world class and we settle with 4 bowlers then we will miss him less (as Ashwin Jadeja and Saha at 7,8&9) can to some extent make up for Dhoni's batting at 7 .

But if we again struggle to take 20 with 4 bowlers and decide to go for 5th bowler solely miss the batting of Dhoni .It's that simple really .

that is illogical to say. You mean we must be winning every game in India before that series which is not true. Saying we never struggled to take 20 wickets at home is rubbish. We have lost an drawn matches at home. If we had never struggled, we would have won every single match. Reason was since England series, we started preparing rank turners, so, Dhoni started to play 3rd spinner and he needed 2 seamers too to make use of reverse swing. Not because we were struggling to take 20 wickets. 

[rkt.india]

25 minutes ago, Viper said:

Lol we never lost for almost 2 years under MS when he first came in...  IQ coming that from you just hilarious. 

and we had a team of legends back then, isn't it? This team is just rebuilding.

[BeautifulGame]

that is illogical to say. You mean we must be winning every game in India before that series which is not true. Saying we never struggled to take 20 wickets at home is rubbish. We have lost an drawn matches at home. If we had never struggled, we would have won every single match. Reason was since England series, we started preparing rank turners, so, Dhoni started to play 3rd spinner and he needed 2 seamers too to make use of reverse swing. Not because we were struggling to take 20 wickets. 

Not every match but every series .

[rkt.india]

Just now, BeautifulGame said:

Not every match but every series .

It means not always we were able to take 20 wickets. So, taking 20 wickets wasnt the reason to play 5 bowlers. We actually do not need 5 bowlers at home because majority of the overs are bowled by spin ad 5th bowler is mostly underused. Overseas, we do need when spinners are negated.

[express bowling]

4 minutes ago, BeautifulGame said:

Not every match but every series .

No...we lost to England in a test series played in India in 2012-13.  The result was 1-2 in a 4 match series.

[BeautifulGame]

No...we lost to England in a test series played in India in 2012-13.  The result was 1-2 in a 4 match series.

Not sure u get what I wrote lol

That's exactly what I meant

[Forever Indian]

Premature ejaculatory overflow by OP!

[velu]

We are getting very desperate, don't we? You got anything to show for other than that laughable piece. Like his overseas average, his captaincy record. 

No.. You are getting desperate and illogical unless you are trolling

As i said earlier, if you believe in what you say , you know whom to meet

[Sujithmb13]

HaHaHa at that guys pans who had premature joy.Still early days for Kohlii.But I trust him.He is always an alpha male who wants to take it to the opposition a quality which helped him  being so successful in lois. 

[velu]

Nice jinx thread Austin

Mama approves

[Brainfade]

Reports of Indian team's impending demise were greatly exaggerated :-)!!

[Austin 3:!6]

19 minutes ago, velu said:

Nice jinx thread Austin

Mama approves

Only real MSD fans understand the motive of this thread

 

Kohli fans and Sachin bhakts (aka @New guy) were getting agitated since yesterday

 

[Laaloo]

1 minute ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

Only real MSD fans understand the motive of this thread

 

Kohli fans and Sachin bhakts (aka @New guy) were getting agitated since yesterday

 

BS this wasn't a jinx thread. Be a man and accept it. You made a premature thread and now it seemed to blow up your face. Pathetic. Dude. You seem worse than Pakistani fans when they cry about match fixing.

[asterix]

Sad day for M$D fans... Their dream didn't materialised. :phehehe:

Don't worry, don't lose hope...

[velu]

3 hours ago, asterix said:

Sad day for M$D fans... Their dream didn't materialised. :phehehe:

Don't worry, don't lose hope...

 

abe tharki uncle .. 

we did a very big service by opening one of the best jinx in the recent times

 

[asterix]

 

abe tharki uncle .. 

we did a very big service by opening one of the best jinx in the recent times

 

Dhonitards... Ended up Jinxing themselves...

[velu]

3 minutes ago, asterix said:

Dhonitards... Ended up Jinxing themselves...

 

we are ready to bitethe bullet for the team .. totally unselfish like our main man msd

 

[maniac]

1 hour ago, velu said:

 

we are ready to bitethe bullet for the team .. totally unselfish like our main man msd

 

Yes....even in his MSD movie produced by himself  it is going to be about others than his own life story

 

[G_B_]

hmm a coaching issue which needs to be raised. Indian batters need to stop throwing it away as they did in the first innings. If this was 2 years ago I would have said they are young. Need more accountability in the middle order. Now we are having 5-6 players with 30 tests or so under their belt.

 

But no point blaming Kohli. Ultimately a captain is as good as his team. You cant polish a turd is a saying. If Indian batsman throw away their wickets neither MSD nor Kohli is to blame....No captain is to blame if we go from 168/1 to 318 all out.

 

I do hope posters can keep apart the team and the captain when judging.  This also goes for the disaster which was 2011 overseas in England and Aus. No Indian captain could have prevented those defeats. It was a collective failure.