Riju23 Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 1 minute ago, kira said: Why are you so afraid to quote me? You'll take amir and junaid that right there explains your cricketing IQ , no more discussion required Lol @ afraid. Alright man, good for you and your cricketing IQ. You're welcome to your opinion. speedheat 1
kira Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 Just now, Riju23 said: Lol @ afraid. Alright man, good for you and your cricketing IQ. You're welcome to your opinion. That's more like it Amir and Junaid are absolute trash and won't make the Indian team even in their dreams, this is not an opinion but a FACT
Laaloo Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 48 minutes ago, Riju23 said: Please use caps lock more lol I would probably take either of Aamir or Junaid over any of our guys. I think they are better at creating wicket taking opportunities in foreign conditions. I think our guys are better at reverse swing in subcontinental conditions. Junaid would not be selected for India as we dont select chuckers anymore.....
Riju23 Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 1 minute ago, laaloo said: Junaid would not be selected for India as we dont select chuckers anymore..... Haha is he a chucker? Also which chucker did we select before? Just curious
Laaloo Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 (edited) Just now, Riju23 said: Haha is he a chucker? Also which chucker did we select before? Just curious harbhajan has chucked a few times iirc. Yes Junaid is a chucker. He still chucks. Edited March 9, 2017 by laaloo
Pollack Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 56 minutes ago, Riju23 said: Please use caps lock more lol I would probably take either of Aamir or Junaid over any of our guys. I think they are better at creating wicket taking opportunities in foreign conditions. I think our guys are better at reverse swing in subcontinental conditions. Are you still stuck at 'Aane do series' . Junaid is nothing special now. speedheat 1
speedheat Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 Ohh common why even discuss it ??? we do have one of the best attack in the world leave alone Asia,pace battery of umesh ishant and shami is way batter then Pakistans amir wahab and trundler.. srilankas trundler trundler and kumara bangdoos trundlers trundlers and trundlers ..
speedheat Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 Please use caps lock more lol I would probably take either of Aamir or Junaid over any of our guys. I think they are better at creating wicket taking opportunities in foreign conditions. I think our guys are better at reverse swing in subcontinental conditions. ROFL looks like you're atypical Pakistani leaving in 1990s jag ja bhai its 2017 [emoji23] [emoji23] [emoji23] [emoji23] that trundler junaid chucks and even then speed gun shows 128k
speedheat Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 Are you still stuck at 'Aane do series' . Junaid is nothing special now. Pakistanis are still living in the 90s when they have all is phatichars like hasan Ali junad rahat Ali lol trundlers after trundlers express bowling 1
kubrickian Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 (edited) Definitely, yes in LOIs. In World Cup 2015, Umesh and Shami were among the top 5 wicket takers. Player Matches Wickets Avg. 1. M Starc 8 22 10.18 2. T Boult 8 22 16.86 3. U Yadav 8 17 17.83 4. M Shami 7 17 17.29 5. M Morkel 8 17 17.58 Mohit Sharma also did well, picking 13 wickets in 8 matches at an average of 24. In fact, India was the only side to bowl out the opposition in all 7 games before the Semi Final. Indian bowlers have also been important in winning Champions Trophy in 2013 and reaching Semi Final and Final of World T20 and contributed to India being a top ranked side and to be consistent particularly in ODIs. As far as tests are concerned, Shami has done decently since his debut. Ishant and Umesh have improved a lot but they havent won test matches on their own. Ishant did really well in Lord's test and in Sri Lanka series and Shami was splendid in his debut test but apart from that, they were good in parts but none of the other performances really stand out. Compared to other Asian test teams, I would say they are better because other teams havent done great either but not by much. To be considered actually good, they need to help win test matches. Its high time they do that on their next tours of SA, Eng, Aus or NZ where they could get conditions helpful to them because they have enough experience in their conditions and have played enough games in their career as well. Good thing about Indian seam bowling is they seem to be on an upward curve. More bowlers are clocking upwards of 140 and bowling more consistent line and length for longer spells when in previous decades, it was the not the same case. I could see India produce a good pool of fast bowlers within the next 5 years or so who will be really helpful in away tours because that's always been our problem area(picking 20 wickets in away tests). Edited March 9, 2017 by kubrickian Rightarmfast and Mosher 2
sandeep Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 13 minutes ago, Riju23 said: Look as a bowling attack they managed to take 20 english wickets two times. We played in england recently with this same set of players (mostly) and could not manage that. It's not like yasir took all the wickets. I'm not saying they are amazing and I dont think Aamir is Wasim Akram 2.0, I just am not sold that we are quite that good yet. Pakistan won 2 test matches on that England tour - Its not like they blew away England with their pace bowling - Yasir was instrumental in them winning one of them. India won a test on the England tour as well, with Ishant bouncing out the pommies. So not much to separate the 2 fast bowling units, strictly on the England tour results.
Cricketics Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 We started bowling well recently. Have shown glimpses of it in the past but we are starting to get consistent. The competiton is not much because sri lanka and pakistan have been changing their attacks a lot and regardless of that also they haven't been that good. We are doing good for now, and need to keep the consistency going.
Iconoclast Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 (edited) 1 Billion people + BCCI $$$$$ + facilities, pace academy etc... one would expect India to have the best pacers. However I think Shami is the only world class pacer you have. With that being said India are marginally better than Pak atm who currently have a poor bowling coach. Edited March 9, 2017 by Iconoclast
Gollum Posted March 10, 2017 Posted March 10, 2017 Asif was a big miss for Pakistan and Amir 2.0 isn't half as good as 2010 Amir. Pak bowling could have potentially competed with RSA and Aus but are presently very mediocre. They are now generating trundlers like no other previous Pak team had ever done. In fact they aren't even producing equivalents of Gul, Rana Naved, Aaqib etc. Junaid was very promising initially but look what he has become today. May be with the shift to UAE they may never produce great quicks like they used to but instead give great spinners. They are becoming like India of old while India has turned the table dramatically. We have a good set of quicks and a culture of fast bowling is sweeping the youth like never before. Thankfully that is not at the cost of spinners. We luckily have good spin back up options like Jayant, Kuldeep, etc but fear they may be unable to break into the team the way Sir and ATGwin are going. Mosher and Laaloo 2
speedheat Posted March 10, 2017 Posted March 10, 2017 1 Billion people + BCCI $$$$$ + facilities, pace academy etc... one would expect India to have the best pacers. However I think Shami is the only world class pacer you have. With that being said India are marginally better than Pak atm who currently have a poor bowling coach. tpostinng Hahahaha [emoji23] [emoji23] [emoji23] [emoji23] lo agaya aur ek 1990s ka banda.. Poster who posted above isn't posting in their dreams JUST READ IT!!! our pace bowlers are way way batter then yours..likes of umesh shami ishant are very much batter then amir chucker junaid and wahab not just marginally and sohil rahat imran khan are all at vinnu Kumar's level!! We have strong bench strength too in domestics , their are at least 5 to 6 genuinely quick right armer's and 3to 4 fast left armer's completely opposite to garbage you are producing now a days
express bowling Posted March 10, 2017 Posted March 10, 2017 8 hours ago, Iconoclast said: 1 Billion people + BCCI $$$$$ + facilities, pace academy etc... one would expect India to have the best pacers. However I think Shami is the only world class pacer you have. With that being said India are marginally better than Pak atm who currently have a poor bowling coach. It all depends on fast bowling culture in a country. We are seeing fast bowling culture setting in very strongly in the last 4 years or so in India..... more and more young pacers in domestic cricket and U19 level are bowling with effort, hitting the deck hard while bowling, gymming regularly and wanting to bowl quick. As a result, there are atleast 20 pacers bowling quick in India now. Out of that lot, quite a few are skilled bowlers too. Rightarmfast, Mosher and speedheat 3
Iconoclast Posted March 11, 2017 Posted March 11, 2017 On 3/10/2017 at 1:38 AM, express bowling said: It all depends on fast bowling culture in a country. We are seeing fast bowling culture setting in very strongly in the last 4 years or so in India..... more and more young pacers in domestic cricket and U19 level are bowling with effort, hitting the deck hard while bowling, gymming regularly and wanting to bowl quick. As a result, there are atleast 20 pacers bowling quick in India now. Out of that lot, quite a few are skilled bowlers too. As a fan of pace bowling that is great news. Looking forward to seeing the next gen of pace bowlers no matter where they are from. Bleed-Blue, rkt.india, express bowling and 3 others 6
rkt.india Posted March 11, 2017 Posted March 11, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Iconoclast said: As a fan of pace bowling that is great news. Looking forward to seeing the next gen of pace bowlers no matter where they are from. Umesh Yadav and Varun Aaron's emergence has genuine fast bowlers through played a big role. Youngsters saw them on TV. Varun Aaron hitting 153KPH in a domestic match made headlines in 2011. Edited March 11, 2017 by rkt.india Rightarmfast and Mosher 2
SLICKR392 Posted March 11, 2017 Posted March 11, 2017 On 9/3/2017 at 5:33 PM, Asim said: Just like Pakistan possess Best Test batting Lineup of Asia... Your test battling line up is Younis Khan Asim and Lord 2
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