coffee_rules Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 What a dangerous polarising move for electoral gains! They want veerashaivas or lingayats to form a new breakaway religion from hinduism, get a minority tag, reservations et all. There will be no progress with such regressive thinking, India can never be free of such nutcases. They are more dangerous than radical islamist jihadis. Lingayats have supported BJP till now. http://m.deccanherald.com/index.php?url=/content/624550/cong-win-over-lingayats-push.html&secid=8 Quote Addressing a press conference in Bengaluru on Monday, Higher Education Minister Basavaraj Rayareddi said ministers - Sharanprakash Patil, Eshwar Khandre, Vinay Kulkarni, S S Mallikarjun and himself - will tour the state, meeting community leaders, Lingayat math heads, office-bearers of Ahkila Bharatha Veerashaiva Mahasabha among others to push for declaring the Veerashaiva-Lingayat dharma as a separate religion. He said once the Lingayat-Veerashaiva dharma is declared an independent religion, the community will seek "minority” status. "What is wrong in that.... Veerashaivas are neither Hindus nor any sub-sect of the Hindus. They are groups that emerged following a movement against casteism, inequality, feudalism and gender discrimination in Hindu society. We must be declared a separate religion and given minority status,” Rayareddi said, replying to a volley of questions from reporters. The move by the ministers, which comes close on the heels on the demand for an official status to the state flag, is seen as a well planned strategy by the Congress to politically take on the BJP ahead of next year’s elections. The Lingayat community, by and large, is considered to electorally back the BJP across the state. By playing the separate religion card, the Congress is keen to make inroads into the BJP support base, say political observers. - See more at: http://m.deccanherald.com/index.php?url=/content/624550/cong-win-over-lingayats-push.html&secid=8#sthash.vTv4Rz0F.dpuf velu and diga 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 (edited) If you are worshiping one or more Hindu Gods, you would be classified under Hinduism .... Religion should not be used to gain economic benefits .... Policies of minority appeasement encourages such moves This case is more about creating a religion to gain economic benefits by seeking minority status Edited July 25, 2017 by zen velu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibarn Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 As long as discriminatory laws against Hindus like the ones in the table below, exist, this makes logical sense for Lingayats. If you can free yourself from government looting and interference why wouldn't you? This is one more brilliant example of Congress's "secularism" they practiced. BJP is proving to be worthless in this regard, as they haven't done anything to alleviate these issues, until just this week when Delhi MP Mahesh Girri decided he will introduce a private member bill against RTE in Parliament. However, only 4% of private member bills even get debated, so prospects remain bleak in that regard as well. Vilander, Laaloo, sarchasm and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laaloo Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Tibarn said: As long as discriminatory laws against Hindus like the ones in the table below, exist, this makes logical sense for Lingayats. If you can free yourself from government looting and interference why wouldn't you? This is one more brilliant example of Congress's "secularism" they practiced. BJP is proving to be worthless in this regard, as they haven't done anything to alleviate these issues, until just this week when Delhi MP Mahesh Girri decided he will introduce a private member bill against RTE in Parliament. However, only 4% of private member bills even get debated, so prospects remain bleak in that regard as well. What a farce Edited July 25, 2017 by Laaloo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diga Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 3 hours ago, coffee_rules said: What a dangerous polarising move for electoral gains! They want veerashaivas or lingayats to form a new breakaway religion from hinduism, get a minority tag, reservations et all. There will be no progress with such regressive thinking, India can never be free of such nutcases. They are more dangerous than radical islamist jihadis. Lingayats have supported BJP till now. http://m.deccanherald.com/index.php?url=/content/624550/cong-win-over-lingayats-push.html&secid=8 Not sure how Yedyuruppa and the Lingayat Math Swamijis will respond to this... Elections are still an year away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 this seems to be a coordinated strategy by the opposition parties to counter BJP in few of the community forums i am active , DMK guys are claiming that tamilians are not hindus ( this is going on for the last 6/7 months) .. their BS argument is that tamils are either saivites ( iyer , gounders , saiva vellals etc ) or vaishnivites ( iyengar , ayra vyasa etc ) .. resident DMK fan @BeautifulGame can attest this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 41 minutes ago, diga said: Not sure how Yedyuruppa and the Lingayat Math Swamijis will respond to this... Elections are still an year away. my ex-colleague who is an lingayat told that this is BS argument .. may backfire badly for congress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diga Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 29 minutes ago, velu said: my ex-colleague who is an lingayat told that this is BS argument .. It is... Dont they worship Shiva/Parvati as their main deities and believe in most of the Hindu puranas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dial_100 Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 more reasons why we want to be congress free india. velu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 9 hours ago, velu said: this seems to be a coordinated strategy by the opposition parties to counter BJP in few of the community forums i am active , DMK guys are claiming that tamilians are not hindus ( this is going on for the last 6/7 months) .. their BS argument is that tamils are either saivites ( iyer , gounders , saiva vellals etc ) or vaishnivites ( iyengar , ayra vyasa etc ) .. resident DMK fan @BeautifulGame can attest this lol the rational party scum will see the ceiling soon, this is a step too far. velu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboysfan Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Absolutely shameful. Is there any wonder why the people have abandoned Congress? They Will sell the country if they can stay in power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourab10forever Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 46 minutes ago, cowboysfan said: Absolutely shameful. Is there any wonder why the people have abandoned Congress? They Will sell the country if they can stay in power. Like they haven't sold our country in the past.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asterix Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Desperate times for Congress... it'll do anything to keep hold of states which its ruling... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jusarrived Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 They are trying everything hoping something will click , unfortunately for them this is not 1960s and most people will see through this . if they are smart all they had to was stick with demonestization ( average middle class who had to stand in ATM queues) , GST (traders/small business typically BJP votes who have to pay taxes now ) and Gau rakshak ("secular" hindus / Minorities ) topics , there was decent amount of votes for them to stand a chance . velu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FischerTal Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 this is exactly how the british empire felt post WW2. it had lost most of its old colonies and as a parting shot, created societal fissures across continents before leaving for good. velu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Not happening. Lingayats are hardcore Hindus. A few pro Congress voices and Muslims are hyping this up on social media, delusional retards. velu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 11 hours ago, asterix said: Desperate times for Congress... it'll do anything to keep hold of states which its ruling... for time being its backfiring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Merlyn Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 @velu Are Vaishnavites and Shivaites not hindus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 57 minutes ago, Malcolm Merlyn said: @velu Are Vaishnavites and Shivaites not hindus? these guys are not aware of religious sects or dont want to talk about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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