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8 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

it is not just logic.  it is how team has been playing. why do you think they called up Raina because he could bowl 2-3 overs like Jadhav used to do.

What was their plan when Jadhav was not available?They didnt have Jadhav or Raina in the squad at one point,just Rayudu and Manish.This part timer logic just seems like an excuse to play their favourites

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1 minute ago, rkt.india said:

Raina is a replacement of Jadhav. cant you see that they prefer someone who could bowl a few overs in the middle.

So we dint need a spinner in SC , where Pandey was playing and in England we feel the need for a partime spinner ? 

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the pattern has been tried and tested in Test matches since more than a year now...

rotate players and change everyone's position in middle order and not let anyone settle in any position except top 3

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Today what he did to kl rahuls confidence is unrepairable, He is a coward, an absolute coward, he doubts youngsters their skills and potential and eventually the result of playing them in the team, exactly opposite to what dada was, just no daring to drop losers like dhoni from the squad and wants to play with has beens, he is toxic for the future of the sport, better we should kick this fool out of the captaincy after 2019 for the interest of the cricket in the nation.

And that drunkard :wall: less said is better :wall:

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3 minutes ago, speedheat said:

Today what he did to kl rahuls confidence is unrepairable, He is a coward, an absolute coward, he doubts youngsters their skills and potential and eventually the result of playing them in the team, exactly opposite to what dada was, just no daring to drop losers like dhoni from the squad and wants to play with has beens, he is toxic for the future of the sport, better we should kick this fool out of the captaincy after 2019 for the interest of the cricket in the nation.

And that drunkard :wall: less said is better :wall:

:hysterical: Bot he dropped hack Umesh yadav as well..  Now get back to your Bangladeshi forum

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38 minutes ago, jusarrived said:

So how did this become Dhoni vs KL ? was kuldeep dropped recently to protect Dhoni as well ?

Lol abey chamche you still have the audacity to defend Dhoni's selection, everyone saw your cricketing acumen when you compared rohit sharma to ahmed shehzad. 

 

On topic, kohli is really the worst captain when it comes to selection, this is the height of biased selection, Rahul is ten times the player dhoni and raina are combined, his potential is even greater than kohli and this idiot drops him :facepalm:

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2 minutes ago, Sachinism said:

If he wanted to test bench strength, Rohit could've been rested. We all know he's guaranteed to be in the WC squad anyway. Why does he need to be out there today?

Kohli already said that openers won't be touched, experimentation will only happen in middle order and there too Dhoni is untouchable.

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2 minutes ago, kira said:

Lol abey chamche you still have the audacity to defend Dhoni's selection, everyone saw your cricketing acumen when you compared rohit sharma to ahmed shehzad. 

 

On topic, kohli is really the worst captain when it comes to selection, this is the height of biased selection, Rahul is ten times the player dhoni and raina are combined, his potential is even greater than kohli and this idiot drops him :facepalm:

RG Sharma c Wood b Willey 2 ( 18b 0X4 0X6) SR: 11.11

 

aage jah 

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5 minutes ago, jusarrived said:

RG Sharma c Wood b Willey 2 ( 18b 0X4 0X6) SR: 11.11

 

aage jah 

Abey pyaare, rohit sharma has already scored 2 centuries on this tour, apne dimaag ka ilaaj karwa

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4 minutes ago, kira said:

Lol abey chamche you still have the audacity to defend Dhoni's selection, everyone saw your cricketing acumen when you compared rohit sharma to ahmed shehzad. 

 

On topic, kohli is really the worst captain when it comes to selection, this is the height of biased selection, Rahul is ten times the player dhoni and raina are combined, his potential is even greater than kohli and this idiot drops him :facepalm:

:phehe: He won more series than you ailiaaa 10du ever will.. How is he the worst ? Nothing can beat sachin when it gets to worst captaincy. 

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33 minutes ago, jusarrived said:

So we dint need a spinner in SC , where Pandey was playing and in England we feel the need for a partime spinner ? 

when did Pandey play? 

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52 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Raina is a replacement of Jadhav. cant you see that they prefer someone who could bowl a few overs in the middle.

raina's bowling is not good and his batting is a question mark with his bounce issue...

where as Kedar is a solid batsman and a mystery kind of a bowler..i hope he comes back and selectors dump Raina.

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1 hour ago, Trichromatic said:

Yeah, biased selection can't get any worse. Kohli protecting Dhoni and axing youngsters. 

 

Trait of dangerous man manager.

And then people worry abt tendulkar jr bowling in England....where as we have so much nepotism and corruption at Indian team. This is the worst era for Indian cricket in terms of selection and backing youngsters.

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My Big problem with Kohli is only 1 primarily..

 

if he can drop KL rahul who is as Solid a batsman as He is himself..rahul is better than karthik...

why cant he DROP DHONI just to teach him a Lesson .

rahul has not played well in last two innings but DHONI made us loose the last odi- why did kartik not replace DHONI..

why? 

CAN Dhoni not be dropped?

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Just now, vishalvirsingh said:

My Big problem with Kohli is only 1 primarily..

 

if he can drop KL rahul who is as Solid a batsman as He is himself..rahul is better than karthik...

why cant he DROP DHONI just to teach him a Lesson .

rahul has not played well in last two innings but DHONI made us loose the last odi- why did kartik not replace DHONI..

why? 

CAN Dhoni not be dropped?

Yes, I mean NO. He isn't called the Don (Carleone) for no reason.

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7 minutes ago, jusarrived said:

Ahmead Shehzad has 6 international hundreds in just 81 games . He would get to 40 hundreds if he plays 400 games , just like your Rohit sharma . Means little .

:hysterical: ghonchu is that how you measure a batsman's ability :hehe: ? No wonder you are so clueless about cricket :phehe:

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1 hour ago, jusarrived said:

No captain can/could drop Dhoni , so move on . Thats not on Virat 

KL or any other youngster being in the team is not going to make any difference to Dhonis position 

Tell me this what has dhoni done in the last match to deserve place in this match. Last match was the worst performance ever by any indian player along with Prabhakar+Mongia and Gavaskar 36. When Karthik is already there as a keeper why dhoni is there in the team after horrible peformances which he did in this tour. Why do you ask to sit a youngster who is making his way to the main team after great performance in recently concluded t20 vs eng. 

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1 hour ago, Rasgulla said:

Rahul did nothing other than 1st t20i.. Makes sense :om: 

Raina can bowl so there is no question of removing him. 

If you have some brain look at the troll vote you got. BTW what has dhoni done on this entire tour, apart from playing worst inning by any cricketer alive or dead in last match.

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1 hour ago, Captain said:

I love Kohli as a batsman but god his team selection is making me hate him.

 

How can any guy with a functioning mind choose to have Raina over Rahul right now? Raina had a below par IPL as well. There's absolutely no justification for picking Raina in the team.

+ Dhoni when Karthik is already there to keep and bat.

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All that talk about Kohli being match winner attitude wala captain, fast bowling captain, it now seems Kohli is nobody's captain.


He wins matches because he gets weak oppositions in Bilaterals/who knows even international matches are fixed for India since the maximum revenue comes from this country.



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Kuch bi , DK can play as a batsmen as he did recently . Raina came into the squad in the last minute and now we are suddenly dependent on his bowling skills ?
Because the 2nd best option is Axar Patel.
They should have called up Krunal Pandya for this series also.

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Dhoni’s arrogance knows no bound
What a f e ck up old man
 
India’s greatest ODI player turning into Indian cricket’s greatest Prima Donna
 
Reminds me of the grandmas working as Air India stewardess  
Meet Kohli 5 yrs after

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32 minutes ago, Lannister said:

One thing is certain about Kohli, we are not going to win any major series under him. That much is true. It's not just about Rahul, there's a lot of things wrong with how they operate. It is what it is and I am certainly not going to watch the matches. 

As long as he wins the bilaterals and spanks minnows & near minnows teams, and earns 200 crore plus per year, he is a happy man.

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1 hour ago, raki05 said:

hat has dhoni done in the last match to deserve place in this match. Last match was the worst performance ever by any indian player along with Prabhakar+Mongia and Gavaskar 36. When Karthik is already there as a keeper why dhoni is there in the team after horrible peformances which he did in this tour. Why do you ask to sit a youngster who is making his way to the main team after great perform

Did Gavaskar get dropped after his 36 ? Am not defending his knock , but no captain could have dropped him based on one knock ..hes not any keeper , but a ATG so just like Dhoni had to wait till the likes of Tendulkar / Dravid retired , Virat has to wait this one .

There are three other batting spots which Virat can get an youngster if he wants , but clearly from what we have seen in last 2-3 years he has no interest in investing on youngsters . So I dont see a point blaming Dhoni every time a youngster is dropped by Virat . Like I asked elsewhere , wasnt Kuldeep dropped just 2 matches before ? isnt KL dropped at every given opportunity in Test team as well ? was Dhoni responsible for playing Rohit sharma ahead of Rahane in SA ? or Puajra in WI ? or for playing Dhawan ahead of VJ ? 

 

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11 minutes ago, jusarrived said:

Did Gavaskar get dropped after his 36 ? Am not defending his knock , but no captain could have dropped him based on one knock ..hes not any keeper , but a ATG so just like Dhoni had to wait till the likes of Tendulkar / Dravid retired , Virat has to wait this one .

There are three other batting spots which Virat can get an youngster if he wants , but clearly from what we have seen in last 2-3 years he has no interest in investing on youngsters . So I dont see a point blaming Dhoni every time a youngster is dropped by Virat . Like I asked elsewhere , wasnt Kuldeep dropped just 2 matches before ? isnt KL dropped at every given opportunity in Test team as well ? was Dhoni responsible for playing Rohit sharma ahead of Rahane in SA ? or Puajra in WI ? or for playing Dhawan ahead of VJ ? 

 

Kohli is chewtia it doesn't mean Dhoni's position justified. When Gavaskar made 36 he was still not that old and he did that purposely to oppose ODI cricket format which was new at that time. He din't do it to harm indian cricket rather more towards a revolt for the new format. Gavaskar is an ATG batsmen and pinnacle of master class technique. Dhoni has very limited capablity as a batsmen but he has great determination to succeed which he did while he  was younger, but as he become older and i highly doubt his real age is 37 it's probably 41-42 he has completely lost it's touch and unnecessary delaying his retirement. If selectors will leave up to him he will never retired by himself  just like he never wanted to leave captaincy and was forced to relinquish also with the limited capability which he has he will cost us many more matches like y'day and  more than loss the approach which he has shown was completely unacceptable and quite humiliating. Dhoni preached that this is India team not mine or your team and older player has to go , so what business does he have in this team. He is quite shameless to be given ownership for self retirement.

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There are 20 scheduled ODIs left for us after today's is over. Sanjay Bangar on a Cricinfo article stated that we will try out a number of options in the middle order: Raina, Rahul, DK, Pandey, Rahane, and Rayudu. Add to that Jadhav, when he returns from injury, is also an option in the middle order.   

 

Does anyone really expect Rahul to get all 20 matches to solidify his spot, when team management has a minimum of 6 other players they have in mind competing for limited spaces?

 

While I agree Rahul is the best option to invest in for our middle order and should get all 20 matches, he hasn't exactly set the world on fire in the chances he has gotten...

Career averages
  Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s  
overall 2016-2018 12 11 3 257 100* 32.12 327 78.59 1 1 1 20 4 Profile
Innings by innings list
Runs Mins BF 4s 6s SR Pos Dismissal Inns   Opposition Ground Start DateAscending  
100* 176 115 7 1 86.95 1 not out 2   v Zimbabwe Harare 11 Jun 2016 ODI # 3742
33 66 50 4 0 66.00 1 bowled 2   v Zimbabwe Harare 13 Jun 2016 ODI # 3744
63* 99 70 4 2 90.00 1 not out 2   v Zimbabwe Harare 15 Jun 2016 ODI # 3746
8 28 18 1 0 44.44 1 bowled 2   v England Pune 15 Jan 2017 ODI # 3819
5 11 5 1 0 100.00 1 caught 1   v England Cuttack 19 Jan 2017 ODI # 3821
11 28 11 1 1 100.00 2 caught 2   v England Kolkata 22 Jan 2017 ODI # 3824
DNB - - - - - - - 2   v Sri Lanka Dambulla 20 Aug 2017 ODI # 3905
4 - 6 0 0 66.66 3 bowled 2   v Sri Lanka Pallekele 24 Aug 2017 ODI # 3906
17 - 24 2 0 70.83 4 caught 2   v Sri Lanka Pallekele 27 Aug 2017 ODI # 3907
7 - 8 0 0 87.50 5 caught 1   v Sri Lanka Colombo (RPS) 31 Aug 2017 ODI # 3908
9* - 18 0 0 50.00 4 not out 2   v England Nottingham 12 Jul 2018 ODI # 4014
0 - 2 0 0 0.00 4 caught 2   v England Lord's 14 Jul 2018 ODI # 4016

 

196 of his 257 runs came in his first series against Zimbabwe; after that he hasn't crossed 20. When you have such limited spots, like in our middle order, you have to grab the bull by the horns and make yourself un-droppable.  

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5 minutes ago, raki05 said:

Kohli is chewtia it doesn't mean Dhoni's position justified. When Gavaskar made 36 he was still not that old and he did that purposely to oppose ODI cricket format which was new at that time. He din't do it to harm indian cricket rather more towards a revolt for the new format. Gavaskar is an ATG batsmen and pinnacle of master class technique. Dhoni has very limited capablity as a batsmen but he has great determination to succeed which he did while he  was younger, but as he become older and i highly doubt his real age is 37 it's probably 41-42 he has completely lost it's touch and unnecessary delaying his retirement. If selectors will leave up to him he will never retired by himself  just like he never wanted to leave captaincy and was forced to relinquish also with the limited capability which he has he will cost us many more matches like y'day and  more than loss the approach which he has shown was completely unacceptable and quite humiliating. Dhoni preached that this is India team not mine or your team and older player has to go , so what business does he have in this team. He is quite shameless to be given ownership for self retirement.

MS if he was to retire , it had to be planned at least 2 years back . its too late now . DK is a born choker , am a massive fan and think hes extremely talented but trust me these are not the guys who can win you big tournaments . So as bad as he is and sinpite of his last innings am hoping for a miracle in WC .

if KL / Pant / Nitish Rana or someone else had 30-40 games behind them then yes , Dhoni could have been replaced  but these guys never got a chance in last 3 years. Dhoni lets say is hogging one spot , but there where other 2 spots where we could have tried youngsters ? Rohit sharma cant even let go of his opening spot in Nidhas trophy to try out another youngster . Dhoni will retire in a year or two , but this is a much bigger problem , wasting great young talents which will haunt us for next 10 years . 

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The same dhoni chamchas who were crying for sachin to retire and keep calling him selfish are today defending dhoni's phateechar batting and continued selection, it's amazing how these chamchas don't even see their own hypocrisy 

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There is bigger politics at play here. When Rahul was dropped for DK, Kohli and the commies on BCCI payroll were praising Karthik to the moon as to how talented he was and how experienced he was. Once the Nidihaas final was over,Karthik was dropped for Pandey and then even Rahul got a shot. Then Rahul flopped 1 or 2 games, they went back to Karthik but Raina plays on. Atleast Pandey was not the replacement.

 

There is no method or logic to the madness.

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21 minutes ago, Tibarn said:

There are 20 scheduled ODIs left for us after today's is over. Sanjay Bangar on a Cricinfo article stated that we will try out a number of options in the middle order: Raina, Rahul, DK, Pandey, Rahane, and Rayudu. Add to that Jadhav, when he returns from injury, is also an option in the middle order.   

 

Does anyone really expect Rahul to get all 20 matches to solidify his spot, when team management has a minimum of 6 other players they have in mind competing for limited spaces?

 

While I agree Rahul is the best option to invest in for our middle order and should get all 20 matches, he hasn't exactly set the world on fire in the chances he has gotten...

Career averages
  Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s  
overall 2016-2018 12 11 3 257 100* 32.12 327 78.59 1 1 1 20 4 Profile
Innings by innings list
Runs Mins BF 4s 6s SR Pos Dismissal Inns   Opposition Ground Start DateAscending  
100* 176 115 7 1 86.95 1 not out 2   v Zimbabwe Harare 11 Jun 2016 ODI # 3742
33 66 50 4 0 66.00 1 bowled 2   v Zimbabwe Harare 13 Jun 2016 ODI # 3744
63* 99 70 4 2 90.00 1 not out 2   v Zimbabwe Harare 15 Jun 2016 ODI # 3746
8 28 18 1 0 44.44 1 bowled 2   v England Pune 15 Jan 2017 ODI # 3819
5 11 5 1 0 100.00 1 caught 1   v England Cuttack 19 Jan 2017 ODI # 3821
11 28 11 1 1 100.00 2 caught 2   v England Kolkata 22 Jan 2017 ODI # 3824
DNB - - - - - - - 2   v Sri Lanka Dambulla 20 Aug 2017 ODI # 3905
4 - 6 0 0 66.66 3 bowled 2   v Sri Lanka Pallekele 24 Aug 2017 ODI # 3906
17 - 24 2 0 70.83 4 caught 2   v Sri Lanka Pallekele 27 Aug 2017 ODI # 3907
7 - 8 0 0 87.50 5 caught 1   v Sri Lanka Colombo (RPS) 31 Aug 2017 ODI # 3908
9* - 18 0 0 50.00 4 not out 2   v England Nottingham 12 Jul 2018 ODI # 4014
0 - 2 0 0 0.00 4 caught 2   v England Lord's 14 Jul 2018 ODI # 4016

 

196 of his 257 runs came in his first series against Zimbabwe; after that he hasn't crossed 20. When you have such limited spots, like in our middle order, you have to grab the bull by the horns and make yourself un-droppable.  

None of the them are going to be settled if they are going to rotate 6 players for 20 games . KL is not a middle order bat , his chances of succeeding are very limited . if you the mgmt cant realize that and give him a long run , then persist with some other player . This musical chair program is not going to help any batsmen . 

Knowing these guys though , I bet they will still be rotating players even in the WC warmups ..while the top order wont budge from their comfort zone . 

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1 minute ago, Global.Baba said:

There is bigger politics at play here. When Rahul was dropped for DK, Kohli and the commies on BCCI payroll were praising Karthik to the moon as to how talented he was and how experienced he was. Once the Nidihaas final was over,Karthik was dropped for Pandey and then even Rahul got a shot. Then Rahul flopped 1 or 2 games, they went back to Karthik but Raina plays on. Atleast Pandey was not the replacement.

 

There is no method or logic to the madness.

Exactly . They have not even let DK settle , who after years of being in Dhonis shadows that knock against Bangla could have been a potentail turnaround . Now I doubt he will do well , I bet after getting out for 20 today he will again start playing for his place in the team . 

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4 minutes ago, jusarrived said:

MS if he was to retire , it had to be planned at least 2 years back . its too late now . DK is a born choker , am a massive fan and think hes extremely talented but trust me these are not the guys who can win you big tournaments . So as bad as he is and sinpite of his last innings am hoping for a miracle in WC .

if KL / Pant / Nitish Rana or someone else had 30-40 games behind them then yes , Dhoni could have been replaced  but these guys never got a chance in last 3 years. Dhoni lets say is hogging one spot , but there where other 2 spots where we could have tried youngsters ? Rohit sharma cant even let go of his opening spot in Nidhas trophy to try out another youngster . Dhoni will retire in a year or two , but this is a much bigger problem , wasting great young talents which will haunt us for next 10 years . 

Completely agreed. That's why i said kohli is utter chewtiya along with Shashtri and i just hope the legend what dhoni created for himself should not be deliberately destroyed by himself and team management. don't you think any body on the forum had not been jump in excitement when he hit that six in wc final. Pinnacle of indian cricket in terms of achievement for most of the forum members in their life, but still it doesn't justify dhoni overstay in anyway imaginable.

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9 minutes ago, jusarrived said:

None of the them are going to be settled if they are going to rotate 6 players for 20 games . KL is not a middle order bat , his chances of succeeding are very limited . if you the mgmt cant realize that and give him a long run , then persist with some other player . This musical chair program is not going to help any batsmen . 

Knowing these guys though , I bet they will still be rotating players even in the WC warmups ..while the top order wont budge from their comfort zone . 

Sure, rotating 6 players over 20 games is a bad idea, but just giving a single player all 20 matches is also risky, especially if they don't end up paying dividends. They need to pick 2, at max 3 players and give them all a fair shake... 

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