rkt.india Posted June 1, 2017 Posted June 1, 2017 12 minutes ago, Cricketics said: What a silly comment that rofl. If government had control then they would stop India from playing? Crazy thought. That means government is crazy to let Indian team hurt by forfeiting the game and points in the tournament. govt does not decide who we play where but govt decide who invite, Visa, etc. So we can play them outside in a neutral venue. Even now BCCI is ready to play Pak at home but govt does not agree and I dont agree to boycott Pak games in a multinational tournament as it will hurt only us. beetle, Laaloo, AK007 and 1 other 4
Rightarmfast Posted June 1, 2017 Posted June 1, 2017 44 minutes ago, sarchasm said: India must NOT play that islamofascist country anywhere, bilateral or multilateral. But especially not bilateral as it directly contributes to their economy. Afghanistan has just shown us the way. That's a little funny my brother. Indian govt is doing trade with Pakistan with no hesitation. You think that doesnt add to their economy? :) Be real! AK007 1
Cricketics Posted June 1, 2017 Posted June 1, 2017 43 minutes ago, rkt.india said: govt does not decide who we play where but govt decide who invite, Visa, etc. So we can play them outside in a neutral venue. Even now BCCI is ready to play Pak at home but govt does not agree and I dont agree to boycott Pak games in a multinational tournament as it will hurt only us. Yes, totally different from what we were talking. I was replying to Beetle and others who want to boycott every pak game barring wc tournaments. AK007 1
Asim Posted June 1, 2017 Author Posted June 1, 2017 We hear 365*24*7 borders, Pakistan,Terrorism, dushman, war, ban, Boycott blah blah... and suddenly whole of india puts all of above factors on 'pause' and gets ready for Pak vs Ind; one of the "most exciting" game... all the logics we get from ind are i. we will not play Only in bilateral bcz to damage Pak $$ ii. we will play in ICC bcz we can't give Pak 2 points... so the fact is Value of ALL of Above factors which u make 24*7 speeches about < 2 points of ICC we don't get this conditional and situational "ghairat"... AK007 1
kira Posted June 1, 2017 Posted June 1, 2017 lol phattu pakistani scared of the phainty India is going to dish out to them on june 4th
kira Posted June 1, 2017 Posted June 1, 2017 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Asim said: We hear 365*24*7 borders, Pakistan,Terrorism, dushman, war, ban, Boycott blah blah... and suddenly whole of india puts all of above factors on 'pause' and gets ready for Pak vs Ind; one of the "most exciting" game... all the logics we get from ind are i. we will not play Only in bilateral bcz to damage Pak $$ ii. we will play in ICC bcz we can't give Pak 2 points... so the fact is Value of ALL of Above factors which u make 24*7 speeches about < 2 points of ICC we don't get this conditional and situational "ghairat"... abey hamari marzi, jab hamara mann karega khelenge, jab nahi karega to nahi khelenge, we make the rules because we rule cricket, we like to show your team its aukaat in ICC events and we also like to hurt you financially by not playing in bilaterals, we don't need to justify our stance to anyone, especially not to pakistan Edited June 1, 2017 by beetle sscomp32, Laaloo, TheWall and 2 others 5
Forever Indian Posted June 1, 2017 Posted June 1, 2017 49 minutes ago, Asim said: We hear 365*24*7 borders, Pakistan,Terrorism, dushman, war, ban, Boycott blah blah... and suddenly whole of india puts all of above factors on 'pause' and gets ready for Pak vs Ind; one of the "most exciting" game... all the logics we get from ind are i. we will not play Only in bilateral bcz to damage Pak $$ ii. we will play in ICC bcz we can't give Pak 2 points... so the fact is Value of ALL of Above factors which u make 24*7 speeches about < 2 points of ICC we don't get this conditional and situational "ghairat"... Why is Pakistan playing India in ICC events then? They should just back out since India don't play with them in bilaterals. Anyways India is getting the free points in ICC events from Pakistan, so why bother playing? sandeep, sscomp32, Vilander and 4 others 6 1
NareshK Posted June 1, 2017 Posted June 1, 2017 (edited) The logic is simple really. Indian govt.(or public in general) doesnt want India to play Pakistan in a bilateral series because Pakistan has sheltered and sponsored terrorists against India and have shown no interest in clamping down on them. Having a cricket series will put more money into Pakistan's economy which will go into terrorists pockets to fund more attacks against us. We are not greatly excited about the match against Pakistan unlike Pakistan fans. We are excited about the tournament. Its the bloody ICC which puts us in the same group, so they can make more money out of this encounter. As for the reason why we should play Pak in ICC tournaments, World Cup and Champions Trophy are quite important and come once every 4 years. So playing Pak is like a bitter pill that's needed to achieve the overall objective - to win the tournament. Pulling out from such events is not in our best interests. Edited June 1, 2017 by NareshK express bowling, Vilander, sscomp32 and 1 other 4
Popular Post express bowling Posted June 1, 2017 Popular Post Posted June 1, 2017 (edited) The whole purpose of this exercise, of not playing bilateral series against Pakistan, is to put pressure on Pakistan in a peaceful way, for promoting terrorism against India. Not playing them in multilateral tournaments does not serve this purpose. Infact, it works the other way. Why would we take a course of action that would be diametrically opposite to our objective ? I don't even see the debate here ! Edited June 1, 2017 by express bowling sandeep, kubrickian, Mosher and 8 others 11
Rightarmfast Posted June 1, 2017 Posted June 1, 2017 56 minutes ago, sarchasm said: Instead of lecturing me on getting 'real', I suggest you invest in a copy of rapiex english course and improve your comprehension skills. Please teach me. AK007 1
Rightarmfast Posted June 1, 2017 Posted June 1, 2017 5 minutes ago, express bowling said: The whole purpose of this exercise, of not playing bilateral series against Pakistan, is to put pressure on Pakistan in a peaceful way, for promoting terrorism against India. Not playing them in multilateral tournaments does not serve this purpose. Infact, it works the other way. Why would we take a course of action that would be diametrically opposite to our objective ? I don't even see the debate here ! Although I disagree with you, but I like your perspective. express bowling and AK007 1 1
UpdateA1 Posted June 1, 2017 Posted June 1, 2017 Get ready on June 4 We India will beat Feebal Pakistan in front of thousand people on coming Sunday, today is Thursday Your Ashraf will be super Flop vs Indian jadoo
mishra Posted June 1, 2017 Posted June 1, 2017 (edited) India shouldnt do anything that benefits Pakistan. In bilaterals they get money so NO. In ICC they will get free points (Manohar is allready giving freebies) So knock them out early Edited June 1, 2017 by mishra Vilander 1
mishra Posted June 1, 2017 Posted June 1, 2017 2 hours ago, express bowling said: The whole purpose of this exercise, of not playing bilateral series against Pakistan, is to put pressure on Pakistan in a peaceful way, for promoting terrorism against India. Not playing them in multilateral tournaments does not serve this purpose. Infact, it works the other way. Why would we take a course of action that would be diametrically opposite to our objective ? I don't even see the debate here ! Exactly. India is trying its best on various channels so that cricket can resume between the two nations
Vilander Posted June 1, 2017 Posted June 1, 2017 7 hours ago, Rightarmfast said: While I have my own issues with the Pakistanis about the bowling paces and about tampering issues, I absolutely stand by what Bhajji, Azhar and Sohail suggested. I am pleasantly surprised with Bhajji taking such a strong and righteous stance and also validating it by quoting relevant examples. One must not forget that even if the 2 countries are fighting, the general public is not our enemy. Cricket is a game, let us not co-relate it with war. One needs to be objective and rise above the fake feelings of nationalism and stuff which our corrupt politicians force us to do, manipulate us to do. Why is it that one politician can make a pitstop in lahore and karachi, attend weddings and birthdays at the top politician of pakistan's place and its still ok? And players cant play cricket? Aren't the soldiers more hurt by the head of India drinking tea with the 'so called enemy', rather than a virat kohli shaking hands shoaib malik? You decide! no there is a monetary angle to it. Modi drinking tea is diplomacy helps us save Indian fishermen in pak for instance and vice versa. Not playing cricket is a coercive tool. what is happening now is a carefully calibrated approach
Vilander Posted June 1, 2017 Posted June 1, 2017 4 hours ago, Forever Indian said: Why is Pakistan playing India in ICC events then? They should just back out since India don't play with them in bilaterals. Anyways India is getting the free points in ICC events from Pakistan, so why bother playing? i dont understand why its so difficult. its simple India does not play bilaterals so that Pak does not get benefits. India plays them in ICC tournaments so that they can advance. Simple.
Vilander Posted June 1, 2017 Posted June 1, 2017 5 hours ago, Asim said: We hear 365*24*7 borders, Pakistan,Terrorism, dushman, war, ban, Boycott blah blah... and suddenly whole of india puts all of above factors on 'pause' and gets ready for Pak vs Ind; one of the "most exciting" game... all the logics we get from ind are i. we will not play Only in bilateral bcz to damage Pak $$ ii. we will play in ICC bcz we can't give Pak 2 points... so the fact is Value of ALL of Above factors which u make 24*7 speeches about < 2 points of ICC we don't get this conditional and situational "ghairat"... we dont give a *.
Pollack Posted June 1, 2017 Posted June 1, 2017 (edited) 9 hours ago, Cricketics said: But what about jawans being sad that india is playing pak when they are fighting on border . I hate that excuse when people bring that up. Even jawans would enjoy playing Pakistan in ICC trophy. We routinely own them in those. Edited June 1, 2017 by Pollack
Texan Posted June 1, 2017 Posted June 1, 2017 P.S. Notice how phateechar commentator changes his stance from "he is very competitive" to "you fool! What did you do!?" on that gesture.
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