SL just scored highest score by visiting team in 4th inning in India

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Innings by innings list

Team	Score	Overs	RPO	Lead	Inns	Result		Opposition	Ground	Start Date
Sri Lanka	299/5	103.0	2.90	-110	4	draw		v India	Delhi	2 Dec 2017
West Indies	276/5	85.3	3.22	1	4	won		v India	Delhi	25 Nov 1987
New Zealand	272/6	107.0	2.54	-97	4	draw		v India	Ahmedabad	8 Oct 2003
West Indies	270/7	93.0	2.90	-51	4	draw		v India	Chennai	13 Jan 1967
West Indies	266	81.4	3.25	-96	4	lost		v India	Mumbai	18 Nov 1994
New Zealand	252/2	95.0	2.65	-171	4	draw		v India	Ahmedabad	29 Oct 1999
New Zealand	251/7	135.0	1.85	-122	4	draw		v India	Mohali	10 Oct 1999
Bangladesh	250	100.3	2.48	-208	4	lost		v India	Hyderabad (Deccan)	9 Feb 2017

 

 

 

[New guy]

Aur chodo catch

[rkt.india]

This was not the kind of pitch most teams batted on before too.

[jusarrived]

24 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

This was not the kind of pitch most teams batted on before too.

you serious there ? I dont care about such records , but thats the excuse we have now ? Highest score by a visiting team and thats cos thats cos the flattest pitch we have seen in 60-70 years ? 

Some experts here where claiming we dont need 5 bowlers to beat this SL side , what happened now ? I guess am repeating the same again ;)

[rkt.india]

9 minutes ago, jusarrived said:

you serious there ? I dont care about such records , but thats the excuse we have now ? Highest score by a visiting team and thats cos thats cos the flattest pitch we have seen in 60-70 years ? 

Some experts here where claiming we dont need 5 bowlers to beat this SL side , what happened now ? I guess am repeating the same again ;)

This is not an excuse, just the reason. This pitch had grass without moisture that kept the pitch intact and spinners didn't get the bite.  Also if we had taken those straight forward catches in the first innings when it had something for spinners, result could have been something different.

Edited December 6, 2017 by rkt.india

[Turning_track]

18 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

This is not an excuse, just the reason. This pitch had grass without moisture that kept the pitch intact and spinners didn't get the bite.  Also if we had taken those straight forward catches in the first innings when it had something for spinners, result could have been something different.

Also we didn't see much deterioration or cracks on this track because the pitch was not exposed to the sun in the first 4 days, only today sun came out. Had there been more sunlight in this match, our spinners could have got more zip but still only 2 wickets on the last day is very poor.
Leaving so many catches cost us big time. The margin of this series could've been lot better.

[mishra]

1 hour ago, jusarrived said:

you serious there ? I dont care about such records , but thats the excuse we have now ? Highest score by a visiting team and thats cos thats cos the flattest pitch we have seen in 60-70 years ? 

Some experts here where claiming we dont need 5 bowlers to beat this SL side , what happened now ? I guess am repeating the same again ;)

Test match met its  mainobjective as soon Rohit Sir got that crucial Fifty.

Edited December 6, 2017 by mishra

[jusarrived]

Just now, rkt.india said:

This is not an excuse, just the reason. This pitch had grass without moisture that kept the pitch intact and spinners didn't get the bite. 

you talking about a side ranked No1 in the world at home against one of the weakest side . if we are going to win only when , there is grass for  our pace bowlers bowl , cracks when our spinners bowl and pitch turns flat when our batsmen bat ..Might as well stop following the match.

 

[rtmohanlal]

Fielding .... no need to look further.Dropping 5 catches and not expecting such records?????????Cricket is a momentum game especially with batsmen.When the batsman is new at the crease the momentum is completely with bowler.There the fielders need to capitalise by supporting bowlers. Then the batsman gets more and more into rythm by building on the chances he earlier got.Once well set the momentum is fully with batsman.So not a surprise that such a record is set after dropping Anjelo on 3

[sensible-indian]

Yet another feather on our bowlers' caps.

 

Another feather on Ashwin's cap.

 

Wanderers. Sabina Park. New Delhi.

 

And our pacers.....what happened to them? They should have won us this test. Why should we always depend on spinners to win us the games? 

 

@express bowling what's your take on our pace bowling the last day? Even with Shami and Ishant, we couldn't get those wickets.

[express bowling]

3 hours ago, sensible-indian said:

Yet another feather on our bowlers' caps.

 

Another feather on Ashwin's cap.

 

Wanderers. Sabina Park. New Delhi.

 

And our pacers.....what happened to them? They should have won us this test. Why should we always depend on spinners to win us the games? 

 

@express bowling what's your take on our pace bowling the last day? Even with Shami and Ishant, we couldn't get those wickets.

 

Pitch was very flat, with predictable and average pace and bounce, little seam movement and insignificant reverse swing.  Not much help for spinners either.  We were on course to score 600+ here when we had to resort to a forced declaration.

 

It is not easy to take 20 wickets on such tracks.

 

However, it must be said that Ishant bowled too wide of off stump in the 2nd innings and did not make the batters play enough.

[sensible-indian]

4 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

Pitch was very flat, with predictable and average pace and bounce, little seam movement and insignificant reverse swing.  Not much help for spinners either.  We were on course to score 600+ here when we had to resort to a forced declaration.

 

It is not easy to take 20 wickets on such tracks.

 

However, it must be said that Ishant bowled too wide of off stump in the 2nd innings and did not make the batters play enough.

True mate. But you believe a team like SA wouldn't have won from this position? 3 down. Last day. Seamers looked good in the first hour. But spinners take 1 wicket each.

 

Our pacers ran amok in Sabina Park too the previous day when pitch had bite but when it lost zip, they didn't take a single wicket and Ashwin was held liable (not that it's wrong but he is just part of the problem).

 

Shami played in both tests and if he (who is undoubtedly our most complete pacer currently) can't take wickets, it's disappointing. Ishant was in good form too but he flopped but this is expected from Ishant.

 

In Ranchi too, our pacers flopped.

 

Wanderers too.

 

This is happening wayyy too often.

[vvvslaxman]

It was an easy paced wicket where batsmen had ample time to play their shots. India missed someone like Starc. Umesh ideally should play a role. But he is crap.

[New guy]

6 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

It was an easy paced wicket where batsmen had ample time to play their shots. India missed someone like Starc. Umesh ideally should play a role. But he is crap.

As someone said, is this the first flat wicket in the history of test matches in India? We broke a historical record. No 1 side with hyped pacers playing against a bottom ranked team

Edited December 9, 2017 by New guy

[rkt.india]

6 hours ago, sensible-indian said:

True mate. But you believe a team like SA wouldn't have won from this position? 3 down. Last day. Seamers looked good in the first hour. But spinners take 1 wicket each.

 

Our pacers ran amok in Sabina Park too the previous day when pitch had bite but when it lost zip, they didn't take a single wicket and Ashwin was held liable (not that it's wrong but he is just part of the problem).

 

Shami played in both tests and if he (who is undoubtedly our most complete pacer currently) can't take wickets, it's disappointing. Ishant was in good form too but he flopped but this is expected from Ishant.

 

In Ranchi too, our pacers flopped.

 

Wanderers too.

 

This is happening wayyy too often.

might not have if they were playing in India on this same pitch. They would actually lost against out spinners.

[rkt.india]

On 12/6/2017 at 8:11 PM, jusarrived said:

you talking about a side ranked No1 in the world at home against one of the weakest side . if we are going to win only when , there is grass for  our pace bowlers bowl , cracks when our spinners bowl and pitch turns flat when our batsmen bat ..Might as well stop following the match.

 

yeah, it was first instance in the history.

[express bowling]

8 hours ago, sensible-indian said:

True mate. But you believe a team like SA wouldn't have won from this position? 3 down. Last day. Seamers looked good in the first hour. But spinners take 1 wicket each.

If we were playing against SA in SA, we would not have declared with a lead of just 400 on such a flat track with 4 sessions left.

 

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Our pacers ran amok in Sabina Park too the previous day when pitch had bite but when it lost zip, they didn't take a single wicket and Ashwin was held liable (not that it's wrong but he is just part of the problem).

 

Shami played in both tests and if he (who is undoubtedly our most complete pacer currently) can't take wickets, it's disappointing. Ishant was in good form too but he flopped but this is expected from Ishant.

 

In Ranchi too, our pacers flopped.

 

Wanderers too.

 

This is happening wayyy too often.

 

Bowling in India has never been easy for pacers.

 

Only 5 pacers have averaged less than 30 in the last 5 years and 2 Indian pacers, Shami and Bhuvi,  are in the top 4... with averages of 24.9 and 26.2.

 

It is not like pacers from other countries are running through sides while bowling in India. A pacer like Starc averages 50.

 

Overall figures

Player	Span	Mat	Inns	Overs	Mdns	Runs	Wkts	BBI	BBM	Ave	Econ	SR	5	10
KJ Abbott (SA)	2015-2015	2	3	52.5	17	105	6	5/40	6/87	17.50	1.98	52.8	1	0
M Morkel (SA)	2015-2015	3	5	78.1	24	186	9	3/19	6/54	20.66	2.37	52.1	0	0
Mohammed Shami (INDIA)	2013-2017	10	20	304.2	57	946	38	5/47	9/118	24.89	3.10	48.0	1	0
B Kumar (INDIA)	2013-2017	11	21	234.3	52	708	27	5/48	8/96	26.22	3.01	52.1	1	0
JL Pattinson (AUS)	2013-2013	3	5	79.0	19	250	9	5/96	6/109	27.77	3.16	52.6	1	0
PJ Cummins (AUS)	2017-2017	2	3	77.0	20	242	8	4/106	4/106	30.25	3.14	57.7	0	0
SCJ Broad (ENG)	2016-2016	3	5	89.0	24	248	8	4/33	5/82	31.00	2.78	66.7	0	0
JR Hazlewood (AUS)	2017-2017	4	7	119.0	30	295	9	6/67	6/109	32.77	2.47	79.3	1	0
TA Boult (NZ)	2016-2016	3	6	106.4	20	333	10	3/38	5/84	33.30	3.12	64.0	0	0
UT Yadav (INDIA)	2015-2017	16	32	447.5	91	1340	40	4/32	6/71	33.50	2.99	67.1	0	0
PM Siddle (AUS)	2013-2013	4	6	110.4	27	305	9	5/71	6/105	33.88	2.75	73.7	1	0
MD Shanaka (SL)	2017-2017	2	3	60.1	9	215	6	3/76	5/112	35.83	3.57	60.1	0	0
JM Anderson (ENG)	2012-2016	4	6	111.0	22	295	8	4/81	4/81	36.87	2.65	83.2	0	0
I Sharma (INDIA)	2012-2017	15	29	412.3	105	1058	28	3/37	5/80	37.78	2.56	88.3	0	0
N Wagner (NZ)	2016-2016	2	4	66.0	17	196	5	2/42	3/102	39.20	2.96	79.2	0	0
MJ Henry (NZ)	2016-2016	2	4	82.0	12	254	6	3/46	6/105	42.33	3.09	82.0	0	0
BA Stokes (ENG)	2016-2016	5	8	106.2	16	357	8	5/73	5/89	44.62	3.35	79.7	1	0
RAS Lakmal (SL)	2017-2017	3	5	108.0	23	370	8	4/26	7/119	46.25	3.42	81.0	0	0
MA Starc (AUS)	2013-2017	4	7	100.3	19	351	7	2/38	3/113	50.14	3.49	86.1	0	0
PLS Gamage (SL)	2017-2017	3	5	113.2	23	396	7	2/59	3/143	56.57	3.49	97.1	0	0

 

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?bowling_pacespin=1;class=1;filter=advanced;host=6;orderby=bowling_average;qualmin1=5;qualval1=wickets;spanmin1=09+Dec+2012;spanval1=span;template=results;type=bowling

 

 

Shami and Bhuvi have the best 2 SRs of 48 and 52.1 among pacers bowling in India in the last 5 years and only 6 pacers have SRs of less than 60.  Starc 86, Anderson 83, Hazlewood 79 and Broad 66 show how badly the celebrated pacers have fared.

 

Overall figures

Player	Span	Mat	Inns	Overs	Mdns	Runs	Wkts	BBI	BBM	Ave	Econ	SR	5	10
Mohammed Shami (INDIA)	2013-2017	10	20	304.2	57	946	38	5/47	9/118	24.89	3.10	48.0	1	0
B Kumar (INDIA)	2013-2017	11	21	234.3	52	708	27	5/48	8/96	26.22	3.01	52.1	1	0
M Morkel (SA)	2015-2015	3	5	78.1	24	186	9	3/19	6/54	20.66	2.37	52.1	0	0
JL Pattinson (AUS)	2013-2013	3	5	79.0	19	250	9	5/96	6/109	27.77	3.16	52.6	1	0
KJ Abbott (SA)	2015-2015	2	3	52.5	17	105	6	5/40	6/87	17.50	1.98	52.8	1	0
PJ Cummins (AUS)	2017-2017	2	3	77.0	20	242	8	4/106	4/106	30.25	3.14	57.7	0	0
MD Shanaka (SL)	2017-2017	2	3	60.1	9	215	6	3/76	5/112	35.83	3.57	60.1	0	0
TA Boult (NZ)	2016-2016	3	6	106.4	20	333	10	3/38	5/84	33.30	3.12	64.0	0	0
SCJ Broad (ENG)	2016-2016	3	5	89.0	24	248	8	4/33	5/82	31.00	2.78	66.7	0	0
UT Yadav (INDIA)	2015-2017	16	32	447.5	91	1340	40	4/32	6/71	33.50	2.99	67.1	0	0
PM Siddle (AUS)	2013-2013	4	6	110.4	27	305	9	5/71	6/105	33.88	2.75	73.7	1	0
N Wagner (NZ)	2016-2016	2	4	66.0	17	196	5	2/42	3/102	39.20	2.96	79.2	0	0
JR Hazlewood (AUS)	2017-2017	4	7	119.0	30	295	9	6/67	6/109	32.77	2.47	79.3	1	0
BA Stokes (ENG)	2016-2016	5	8	106.2	16	357	8	5/73	5/89	44.62	3.35	79.7	1	0
RAS Lakmal (SL)	2017-2017	3	5	108.0	23	370	8	4/26	7/119	46.25	3.42	81.0	0	0
MJ Henry (NZ)	2016-2016	2	4	82.0	12	254	6	3/46	6/105	42.33	3.09	82.0	0	0
JM Anderson (ENG)	2012-2016	4	6	111.0	22	295	8	4/81	4/81	36.87	2.65	83.2	0	0
MA Starc (AUS)	2013-2017	4	7	100.3	19	351	7	2/38	3/113	50.14	3.49	86.1	0	0
I Sharma (INDIA)	2012-2017	15	29	412.3	105	1058	28	3/37	5/80	37.78	2.56	88.3	0	0
PLS Gamage (SL)	2017-2017	3	5	113.2	23	396	7	2/59	3/143	56.57	3.49	97.1	0	0

 

 

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?bowling_pacespin=1;class=1;filter=advanced;host=6;orderby=bowling_strike_rate;qualmin1=5;qualval1=wickets;spanmin1=09+Dec+2012;spanval1=span;template=results;type=bowling

 

 

p.s - I must add though that to take wickets on normal bounce patas when the ball is not reversing,  one needs pacers with extreme accuracy and good bounce, like a McGrath or a Kyle Abbot .... and we don't have any such pacer in our test team .... one of the main reasons why I have been clamouring for Bumrah in the test team.

Edited December 9, 2017 by express bowling

[Pollack]

16 hours ago, sensible-indian said:

Even with Shami and Ishant, we couldn't get those wickets.

With Ishant one never gets wickets. Most talentless bowler ever to play so many test matches. 

 

[Pollack]

1 hour ago, rkt.india said:

yeah, it was first instance in the history.

Seriously!

 

[rkt.india]

6 minutes ago, Pollack said:

Seriously!

 

people usually forget cricket is a highly condition-dependent sport more than skills.