Ball Tampering by Aus ?

[Trichromatic]

 

So, theory is that they were not trying to get reverse swing rather they were trying to get ball replaced by destroying it. 

 

[Khota]

1 hour ago, rtmohanlal said:

To be precise,  opening  threads 'accusing Sachin of all people tampering'  in these moments  is the most dumbest thing a Pakistani  could  ever commit.After all Sachin was legally & officially cleared of tampering  by the ICC  that time itself. Secondly , the legacy of Sachin as a legendary  player wouldn't lose by even a bit  because his credentials are based on the extremely most difficult discipline of the game, ie: batting. His bowling  was just an icing on the  cake.But then.... some of these padosis are as foolish and shameless  as it can get because of not even having the minimum common sense to realise that it is going to boomerang  on  them by the legacy of their  own so called 'legendary phaast bowlers' getting questioned.

That green forum is a very toxic, concentrated hate site. There are some shameless desis who suck up to those haters and get to stay. there are people like me who speak the truth who get banned.

Any Indian who ever gets a hard on for playing pakistan ever should visit that hate site see the hate and feel it first hand than can decide if they want to play those gifted cheaters.

[Sachinism]

Not conclusive - Bancroft seemingly putting sugar into his pocket during the Ashes

 

 

 

Edited March 25, 2018 by Sachinism

[ravishingravi]

http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/22898362/australia-line-becomes-their-noose

[TheWall]

4 hours ago, rtmohanlal said:

And as a matter of 'divine inevitability' threads regarding  'greats of Indian cricket  related to tampering' have sprung up in padosi passion sites.And as always , it getting boomeranging on their own  'legendary phaast bowlers' and hence  some of the 'blasphemy  posts especially related to the great pioneer Kaptaan' getting deleted  is happening there. Uttering a negative word against Kaptaan is blasphemy there.

Imran khan - The Father of Ball Tampering...

[rtmohanlal]

1 hour ago, Khota said:

That green forum is a very toxic, concentrated hate site. There are some shameless desis who suck up to those haters and get to stay. there are people like me who speak the truth who get banned.

Any Indian who ever gets a hard on for playing pakistan ever should visit that hate site see the hate and feel it first hand than can decide if they want to play those gifted cheaters.

exactly .....I  also got banned  from that site for telling the truth.There we  can't utter a word accusing their legendary Kaptaan of ball tampering.Then that post will get deleted.On the other hand they can degrade Indian players to any lower levels. I couldn't tolerate it and retaliated with harsh words that resulted in my ban.As you said there are  some Indians who doesn't mind all  those at the expense of staying there which people with self esteem can never ever cope with.

[rtmohanlal]

33 minutes ago, TheWall said:

Imran khan - The Father of Ball Tampering...

Infact , i don't think  there has been  any other bowler in the history of the game who got directly or indirectly  accused  for tampering by more than 10 people that includes fellow players,opposition players,umpires ,cricket analysts etc etc

[coffee_rules]

What an idiot bunch of Australians!  Rightfully punished. Worst bunch this generation. Even Clarke appears classy than this bunch,

[Khota]

17 minutes ago, rtmohanlal said:

exactly .....I  also got banned  from that site for telling the truth.There we  can't utter a word accusing their legendary Kaptaan of ball tampering.Then that post will get deleted.On the other hand they can degrade Indian players to any lower levels. I couldn't tolerate it and retaliated with harsh words that resulted in my ban.As you said there are  some Indians who doesn't mind all  those at the expense of staying there which people with self esteem can never ever cope with.

I could not have said it any better. That is one reason this forum is great that no one is above criticism. Over there if you say something negative about the biggest cheat in the history of cricket Imran jee they will ban you. That forum is a reflection of that society. Intolerant.

[CoverDrive]

tired of this drama already. It seems like Aussies themselves are the ones most pissed off. They were thinking that their team is something special and now has brought shame to their noble nation. 

 

Lot of teams have done this and this stupidity is rightly being punished. What is different this time is that these are aussies who keep claiming about never crossing the line and what not. They claim sledging is hard but fair but only dishonest teams will actually cheat. 

 

That last defense has been broken and Aussies lose face big time. 

 

Yesterday's match was tiresome to follow. There was no fun in looking at these idiot's face glumly trying to save the match. 

[PBN]

 

[diga]

https://twitter.com/9NewsAUS/status/978385424497377280

 

 

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[BlackMamba]

And the heads begin to roll.

I'll still stick by what I want  --> Truth but nothing but the truth.

 

1) How long has OZ been doing this?

2) What other games have been tampered with?

 

Put a gun to Steve Smith's head if need be to get answers

 

 

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Darren Lehmann is set to resign as head coach of the Australian cricket team over the ball-tampering scandal during the third Test in South Africa, according to a report.

Sources in Australia have told The Telegraph UK Lehmann is ready to stand down with immediate effect and his decision is partly why James Sutherland, the chief executive of Cricket Australia, suddenly announced yesterday he was flying to South Africa.

Cricket Australia has told Fairfax Media the report is just "speculation" as its investigation team joins the squad in South Africa.

 

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The Australian cricket team coach is rumoured to have stood down in repsonse to the ball tampering saga.

Sutherland is due to meet the players and coaching staff in Johannesburg today, with a press conference expected this evening, when announcements about Lehmann and action against Steve Smith, David Warner and Cameron Bancroft are likely to be announced. Smith and Warner are thought to be facing the prospect of 12-month suspensions from the sport.

Lehmann, who has been head coach for five years, winning two Ashes series and a World Cup, has not spoken publicly since the scandal erupted on Saturday.

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But, as head coach, he will have to take full responsibility for what happened on his watch, even if he was not directly involved in the decision. Lehmann, as coach, is accountable for the culture within the camp and has presided over a team happy to agree to pre-meditated cheating.

There are also few left who believe Smith's explanation that Saturday's incident was a one-off. Australia have also pushed the boundaries in terms of on-field abuse under Lehmann and cleaning up the side will have to include changes to the top of the management structure. Lehmann announced last year that he would be stepping down anyway after the 2019 Ashes tour.

Lehmann was appointed in the aftermath of the "homework-gate" row which led to four players being suspended on a tour to India for failing to give coach Mickey Arthur feedback on how the team could improve. Arthur's reputation never recovered and he was sacked during the 2013 Ashes tour to England.

Lehmann was brought in to bring a harder edge to the side and a return to so-called Australian values. Those values have been shattered by what happened in Cape Town.

 

 

Video showed Bancroft putting the yellow tape down the front of his pants.

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Smith and Warner are facing the likelihood of year-long suspensions by CA that will also cost them millions in Indian Premier League earnings. CA is under intense pressure to make examples of the two leaders in the team and suspending them from international duty, but allowing them to make money in the IPL would send a terrible message. Smith and Warner are the highest-paid Australian cricketers in the IPL.

Both were retained by their franchises before January's auction on deals worth £1.1 million. Warner plays for the Sunrisers Hyderabad and has twice been the leading scorer in the IPL, sending his value rocketing.

Smith was also among the most marketable cricketers, securing lucrative sponsorship deals with food company Sanitarium, Commonwealth Bank, New Balance and Fit Bit. Sanitarium confirmed last night their support of Smith was "under review", saying: "The actions taken by the team in South Africa don't align with our values. We don't condone cheating in sport."

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Commonwealth Bank also suggested it could sever its deal. "We are disappointed and have asked for a full explanation," a spokesperson said.

CA has been told to act swiftly and decisively by the country's prime minister, Malcolm Turnbull, and is facing the prospect of losing sponsors. While CA had expected a total bid of around £540 million to cover free-to-air and subscription channels for the next seven years, the figure is likely to be substantially reduced in the wake of the most shocking case of team discipline in the modern history of the Australian side.

Until Saturday, Smith was the golden boy of Australian cricket, billed as the new Don Bradman and set to captain for years. But his world has been shattered. His reputation is in tatters. A serious form of punishment will have to include suspension from a home Australian summer. India are due to tour Australia this winter.

CA has broad sanctions at its disposal under the terms of its central contracts with the Australian players and is investigating what happened in the dressing room at Newlands before Bancroft took the field in the afternoon session with sticky tape in his pocket and attempted to change the ball condition. The big decision for CA is deciding the level of culpability. Does it punish players for simply knowing what was going on?

That could lead to fines or suspensions for many others beyond the trio in the spotlight.

Several senior players are understood to be incensed by Smith's comments on Saturday when he implicated the "leadership group" as a collective in the plan to cheat. It is thought he was trying to protect Warner and spread the blame, but team-mates such as Mitchell Starc and Josh Hazlewood are believed to be extremely upset to have been dragged into it and had not been involved in the discussions.

What Lehmann knew will be key. He was seen on camera speaking via a walkie-talkie to 12th man Peter Handscomb moments after Bancroft was caught on television using yellow sticky tape to rub the ball. Handscomb then immediately went on the field and delivered a message to Bancroft, who then stuffed the yellow tape down his trousers and, when asked to empty his pockets by the umpires, showed them the cloth for cleaning his sunglasses.

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In many ways, Lehmann is the easiest for CA to deal with. It is not short of great former players to call upon to take control of the team. Ricky Ponting will be a favourite, along with Justin Langer and Jason Gillespie. All three are hugely respected for their playing careers and have enjoyed success as coaches. Ponting may not want the job full time, but more countries are likely to split their coaching roles anyway due to the time teams are on the road.

Smith has already lost his job as captain of the Rajasthan Royals in the IPL, with the franchise announcing yesterday that India vice-captain Ajinkya Rahane would replace him for the season which starts early next month.

CA has to move quickly. The fourth Tests starts in Johannesburg on Friday and Australia will need to fly replacements to South Africa. Smith has already been banned by the International Cricket Council and it is inconceivable Warner and Bancroft will play, even if CA has not decided its sanctions by then.

Joe Burns and Matt Renshaw are on standby to join the touring party, with Tim Paine likely to continue as captain.

 

 

Edited March 27, 2018 by BlackMamba

[King Tendulkar]

Still all time great tampering was pitch tampering by Afridi .  As not pre  mediated and pure thinking on feet . Literally putting your life on the line for victory 

 

Explosion in stadium . Everyone panics thinking bomb ( it wasn’t ) Afridi in spilt second thinks this is moment to do pitch tampering and dances on pitch to scuff it up lol

[LORD_analyst]

 

[CG]

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[coffee_rules]

I think they should legalize ball tampering. The game as it is leaning towards the batsmen with fielding restrictions, one bouncer, legside wides, why not let bowlers use innovative methods to outwit the batsman.

 

If not, they should not allow to shine the ball. Lozenges, zipper, skin creame, dust and now sandpaper are all innovations. A wet ball can be dried using a towel. Bandages on the finger has to be banned. Where do you stop. Let it all happen freely.

Edited March 28, 2018 by coffee_rules

[Zero_Unit]

Well then, this has been blown way out of proportion. So whats the latest news on IPL participation? Booted from RR and SRH aswell? Would be a big blow for Orange Army's team since Warner was crucial at top of the order. 

[Vilander]

1 hour ago, coffee_rules said:

legalize ball tampering.

they have you can use saliva/sweat and polish it against your trousers. Within limits throw the ball on rough while returning to the keeper. 

 

The problem comes in when your bring in a foreign object like a tape or a blade or bottle cap and go at it.

[coffee_rules]

20 minutes ago, Vilander said:

they have you can use saliva/sweat and polish it against your trousers. Within limits throw the ball on rough while returning to the keeper. 

 

The problem comes in when your bring in a foreign object like a tape or a blade or bottle cap and go at it.

All teams have tried to do something about this. 

saliva - lozenges, mints have been tried. Faf/Dravid/Tresco. While polishing accidently use the zipper.  Afridi has bit the ball as well.