Popular Post Gollum Posted July 15, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 15, 2018 (edited) In light of the recent FIFA World Cup, thought of comparing the cricket teams with football teams based upon history/ability/achievements/mindset/resources yada yada. 1. West Indies: Brazil Calypso/Samba...free spirited Greatest teams of all time once upon a time but not so successful in the last 20 odd years Greatest players....all time XIs will have max players from their countries Loved by all Immense natural talent which drives them to success without a strong domestic set up Swag/Flair 2. Australia: Germany Overall very successful Competitive in every era Very consistent in World Cups Many ATGs (2nd highest) Very organized, disciplined with high precision and scientific approach to the game Ruthless Excellent domestic structure and youth programmes which was/is able to consistently churn out high quality players 3. India: Italy Probably in terms of big success behind only Australia (Germany) and WI (Brazil) Punched above its weight and knocked out fancier teams in the past to win big trophies Mediocre for large parts but still a great history with a few top tier ATGs Both are very defensive teams (bowling=attack, batting=defence ) with max ATGs in defensive department (India=batsmen, Italy=defenders and GK) For most parts in big tourneys both are mentally tough units, very dogged India often stopped mighty WI('83)/Australia(ATG test streak) just like how Italy stopped many pre tournament favorites like Brazil, France, Germany in the past. Good domestic structure.....Ranji=slightly below par, IPL=best in the world, average it out Both countries are fixing/corruption hubs in their respective sports 4. Pakistan: Argentina Chaotic, mercurial, unpredictable Have won the big trophies but not yet as successful as 1-3 Individual brilliance, X factor Lack of cohesion, full of controversies and soap operas Achieved success under strong dictatorial leaders Propensity to cheat with innovations like ball tampering, chucking, Hand of God, fixing... Unapologetic about cheating incidents in the past, they wear it like a badge of honour Domestic Structure LOL 5. England: England Invented the sport but watched other teams excel more Rich history but most greats from bygone era English media Historically the best domestic structure with great prestige, finest of the game have polished their skills in England.....finishing school for many ATGs Boring sides Nostalgia tards Ugly yet effective style of play, tenacious spirit which helped them perform beyond their capabilities 6. Sri Lanka: France Won all their trophies post 90s, since then possibly most consistent teams in big events Produced many freakish talents Very successful in a short span At their best as good as any of the other ATG units Tactically top notch Nice fakers, often resort to underhand means 7. South Africa: Netherlands Never won a WC in spite of being favorites many times, greatest nations to not win the ultimate prize in their disciplines Exceptional talent, very skilled Cryuff=Kallis...objectively greatest but not rated as GOATs by pundits 8. New Zealand: Belgium Punch above weight No standout ATG but many excellent players who gel well Never came close to winning a WC Honest triers Universally liked 9. Bangladesh: Some African country (Ghana, Cameroon, Nigeria????) Lots of funds pumped in by governing body 1-2 high quality players surrounded by a bunch of mediocre players Occasionally upset higher ranked teams Too many false dawns Very passionate fanbase Perpetual victim mentality 10. Zimbabwe: Turkey Had many good players in 90s, early 2000s Childhood nostalgia for kids who followed global events in late 90s and early 2000s Andy Flower=Hakan Sukur, both ATGs who were overlooked because they didn't play for the big boys, both exiled for their political stance Quite weak now and may have to wait for a few years before they are taken seriously again Zimbabwe/Turkey origin players helped other top tier teams achieve great success eg Flower brothers for England(test no 1)/Pakistan(CT) while Ozil played a big role for Germany in 2014 WC. Political problems, dictators, human rights violations etc spilled over to sports and sullied the image of their national teams. 11. Afghanistan: Egypt Countries in turmoil because of terrorism, war, political/social unrest->cricket/football being major outlets for national identity/unity Success a triumph of human spirit in times of great adversity Only in recent times have they made a global splash Rashid Khan (SRH)=Mohammed Salah (Liverpool), both took their famous leagues by storm and achieved great popularity...both proud symbols of their nations, both full of style/panache Talented but very raw, will take time to mature but have serious potential 12. Ireland: Iceland Small countries Playing for a long time but only in recent times have they qualified for big events Mostly unknown players but whole greater than sum of parts Both gave England lots of heartburn in the big stage....WC 2011 group game and Euro 2016 sending the inventors of the sport into mourning Players who carried them this far are old and close to retirement, worries about future because young talent doesn't look that promising....may face a steep decline that will set them back by a few more years. Feel free to add your choices...I don't follow football like I used to as a kid. I may have made some wrong assumptions and got a few observations wrong. But honestly quite difficult to find equivalents which everyone will agree upon . Pretty sure many ICFers are more knowledgeable in this regard !!!! Edited July 13, 2020 by Gollum velu, WeStMiDz, Clarke and 29 others 2 9 21 Link to comment
WeStMiDz Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 Nice thread. Refreshing change from Dhoni this and Dhoni that. Lol'd at England = England. Gollum, velu, UrmiSinhaRay and 6 others 1 6 1 1 Link to comment
velu Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 england = england UrmiSinhaRay and Vilander 1 1 Link to comment
WeStMiDz Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 India:Italy - bookmaker's heaven. velu, UrmiSinhaRay, GoldenSun and 5 others 1 6 1 Link to comment
Gollum Posted July 15, 2018 Author Share Posted July 15, 2018 1 minute ago, WeStMiDz said: India:Italy - bookmaker's heaven. Yup pertinent point. Indeed both are fixing hubs GoldenSun, Vijy and UrmiSinhaRay 1 2 Link to comment
Turning_track Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 Indian cricket team reminds me of the Dutch team. We have become the nearly men like the Dutch in past few years & falter in the semis/finals. Lot of inflated egos too just like Van Persie, Sneijder & Robben. UrmiSinhaRay, zen, Jimmy Cliff and 1 other 1 2 1 Link to comment
Popular Post Gollum Posted July 15, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted July 15, 2018 @velu Buffon a 40 year old is captain of Italy and he is their goalkeeper. In India a wicketkeeper was official captain till age 36 and unofficial captain now ...India-Italy is a perfect fit, no wonder INC party workers ordered 400 kg laddus for their ruling party's President after the 2006 WC triumph Suhaan, Vk1, BrantFUGH and 11 others 1 13 Link to comment
velu Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 17 minutes ago, Gollum said: @velu Buffon a 40 year old is captain of Italy and he is their goalkeeper. In India a wicketkeeper was official captain till age 36 and unofficial captain now ...India-Italy is a perfect fit, no wonder INC party workers ordered 400 kg laddus for their ruling party's President after the 2006 WC triumph we need bunga bunga party Ridgepi, Gollum and UrmiSinhaRay 2 1 Link to comment
mancalledsting Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 (edited) CSK are mid 2000s version of AC Milan or Juventus. Lol berlusconi = srini mama Edited July 15, 2018 by mancalledsting diehardpacer, Jimmy Cliff, Clarke and 4 others 1 6 Link to comment
UrmiSinhaRay Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 we need bunga bunga party We already have those in the corners of Bollywood Sent from my CPH1609 using Tapatalk Ridgepi 1 Link to comment
YCCC Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 (edited) Yorkshire= Man Utd The most successful club in the country hated by everyone else because of it. Actually I'd rather not say we're like a Lancashire football club. We can be Bayern, Real Madrid or Juventus Or alternatively... Liverpool. Used to be dominant but nowadays tend to live on past glories. A few successful years in recent history but few and far between Edited July 15, 2018 by YCCC Gollum, UrmiSinhaRay and GoldenSun 2 1 Link to comment
Jimmy Cliff Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 2 hours ago, mancalledsting said: CSK are mid 2000s version of AC Milan or Juventus. Lol berlusconi = srini mama CSK are certainly Juventus. Just like Juve were relegated to Serie B CSK were briefly banned from the IPL. Ridgepi, UrmiSinhaRay, Gollum and 4 others 1 5 1 Link to comment
gattaca Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 England = England never won anything significant. Ridgepi and UrmiSinhaRay 1 1 Link to comment
Suhaan Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Aus =Brazil, two of them remained best in the world for a long long time Ridgepi and UrmiSinhaRay 1 1 Link to comment
Pakistan Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 4 hours ago, WeStMiDz said: Nice thread. Refreshing change from Dhoni this and Dhoni that. Lol'd at England = England. Kallis >> Sachin Lala, Suhaan, VT87 and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment
speedheat Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 (edited) England=England Croatia goalkeeper yesterday reminded me of dhoni,.stiff, unwilling to dive , choked Edited July 16, 2018 by speedheat diehardpacer, Laaloo and UrmiSinhaRay 1 2 Link to comment
Popular Post YCCC Posted July 16, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 16, 2018 (edited) Of course England = England. We're the only country that plays cricket and football to a decent standard When a cricketing country insults us we can throw back "how did you do at the footba world cup" and the opposite if a footballing country insults us. Win win Edited July 16, 2018 by YCCC Gollum, Laaloo, Shunya and 10 others 1 12 Link to comment
Pakistan Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 West Indies = Liverpool Football Club Their glory days were in 70s and 80s. Fun Fact: Sir Viv is Liverpool fan. Hopefully, Klopp will bring the glory days back. South Africa Cricket Team = England Cricket Team Both won only one major tournament. France Football Team = Hindustan Cricket Team Their glory started in 90s/00s with both winning odd world tournament previously. Australian Cricket Team = Real Madrid Both always have boss teams. Pakistan Cricket Team = Italy Football Team Dark horses of their respective Sport who have won majors so you can never ignore them. Lala, Vijy and Gollum 1 2 Link to comment
Number Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 (edited) 18 hours ago, Gollum said: @velu Buffon a 40 year old is captain of Italy and he is their goalkeeper. In India a wicketkeeper was official captain till age 36 and unofficial captain now ...India-Italy is a perfect fit, no wonder INC party workers ordered 400 kg laddus for their ruling party's President after the 2006 WC triumph Italy's Buffon retired from internationals last year, will make a comeback as they need some experienced internationals. Our Buffoon retired from tests and trying to make a case for comeback by playing tests in ODIs. Edited July 16, 2018 by Number Gollum, UrmiSinhaRay, speedheat and 5 others 2 5 1 Link to comment
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