maniac Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Just now, velu said: should hired him as one of your coaches then Zak is already a bowling mentor Malinga is a playing bowling mentor.bhabhi will create a role till she hires every legend. Suhaan and UrmiSinhaRay 1 1 Link to comment
velu Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 @Rightarmfast your views UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
zaqw222222 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Consistency has always been an issue with him. 1 test match he is bowling great with pace, next match the pace drops and his bowling is all over the place. I think a season in county will be good for him UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Suhaan Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Umesh should thank his stars for having played so many years with his skill sets UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Number Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 No ambitions, no drive to improve, complacent, poor social skills. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Late Cut Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 BK is currently quicker than him, and a much better swing bowler, and with much better numbers. Umesh is redundant with his pace being in the low to mid 130s, with no swing or seam movement. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Insidious Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Even against westindies, he clocked 144 ks. Why he was so slow in Perth is beyond me. vishalvirsingh and UrmiSinhaRay 1 1 Link to comment
Insidious Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Some one can't be a trundler in 1.5 years, without any major injury. I suspect that fatty Bharat Arun did something with him. vishalvirsingh, rahulrulezz and UrmiSinhaRay 1 2 Link to comment
vishalvirsingh Posted December 20, 2018 Author Share Posted December 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Insidious said: Some one can't be a trundler in 1.5 years, without any major injury. I suspect that fatty Bharat Arun did something with him. thats what i was thinking...is it Umesh the cause of his downslide or bharat arun? Link to comment
MechEng Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Nothing wrong with Umesh, he never evolved into a thinking bowler. He has his limits. Link to comment
fineleg Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 (edited) UY is yet another in the looooong lineup of Indian fast bowlers who promised a lot when they started in the Indian team in the last 10-15 years and then withered away. Tells you something about the BCCI setup. Edited December 20, 2018 by fineleg Laaloo and UrmiSinhaRay 1 1 Link to comment
Rightarmfast Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 10 hours ago, velu said: @Rightarmfast your views No views. Let people waste time. The problem was openers, not Umesh Yadav. And in any event, 4 right arm fast bowlers dont make sense. Can be 3 right arm fast and one left arm fast-fast medium or leg spinner/ chinaman / offie. In any event, Umesh was playing his 1st match and didnt look comfortable. But the fault lies with the openers so I think its a waste of time to discuss the bowlers till the time this team sorts out the batsmen. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 4 hours ago, fineleg said: UY is yet another in the looooong lineup of Indian fast bowlers who promised a lot when they started in the Indian team in the last 10-15 years and then withered away. Tells you something about the BCCI setup. Cant blame BCCI for umesh 2 hours ago, Rightarmfast said: No views. Let people waste time. The problem was openers, not Umesh Yadav. And in any event, 4 right arm fast bowlers dont make sense. We played 4 fast bowlers, so umesh will perform badly.....ye kya logic hai 2 hours ago, Rightarmfast said: Can be 3 right arm fast and one left arm fast-fast medium or leg spinner/ chinaman / offie. In any event, Umesh was playing his 1st match and didnt look comfortable. Bumrah , ishant n shami also played their 1st matches in 1st test 2 hours ago, Rightarmfast said: But the fault lies with the openers so I think its a waste of time to discuss the bowlers till the time this team sorts out the batsmen. Openers are at fault, again that doesnt allow umesh to perform badly. Overseas is the toughest for openers specially such pitch Umesh cnt leak runs on such pitch like that , even though he leaks everywhere Frustrated 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 13 hours ago, Late Cut said: BK is currently quicker than him, and a much better swing bowler, and with much better numbers. Umesh is redundant with his pace being in the low to mid 130s, with no swing or seam movement. Bk has slowed Down a lot after his back injury. Doesn't cross 135 but it's not just about but accuracy as well. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 (edited) Umesh conceded 4 rpo on that pitch, still people don't think it was his fault. Whether we should have played 4 pacers or not is irrelevant. Other 3 pacers did well. So there is no excuse for him bowling badly. Edited December 21, 2018 by rkt.india sscomp32, UrmiSinhaRay and vishalvirsingh 1 1 1 Link to comment
ShoonyaSifar Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 He may have played his last test for India with the next test series only in July vs WI where we should try out a couple of younger pacers. Don't know on whose advice Umesh decided to become a medium pacer bowling 135-138 kmph occasionally hitting 140. Was the beginning of the end for him. Lesson for all upcoming out and out pacers - never ever give up speed, will not help you have a long career. vishalvirsingh and UrmiSinhaRay 1 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 1 hour ago, ShoonyaSifar said: He may have played his last test for India with the next test series only in July vs WI where we should try out a couple of younger pacers. Don't know on whose advice Umesh decided to become a medium pacer bowling 135-138 kmph occasionally hitting 140. Was the beginning of the end for him. Lesson for all upcoming out and out pacers - never ever give up speed, will not help you have a long career. Even Pace is not an issue and 135-138 is not a bad pace. the issue is inaccuracy at that pace. No one will have an issue bowling 135-138 if you are bowling accurately. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
ShoonyaSifar Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 10 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Even Pace is not an issue and 135-138 is not a bad pace. the issue is inaccuracy at that pace. No one will have an issue bowling 135-138 if you are bowling accurately. Someone who started at 150 kmph and goes to 135-138 will have questions on the need to reduce speed when ideally the speeds should have gone up. Still remember how well he bowled in domestic cricket around in 2010 bowling really pacy spells consistently above 140+ bowling lots of 145+ deliveries, then the 150+ spells in Australia in 2011-12. Was so exciting to watch and then it all disappeared. Not sure whom to blame - Duncan Fletcher or Dhoni or his own mentors. He reduced pace despite suffering no injuries. He's still the fittest athletic pace bowler we have produced. Kamlesh Nagarkotti looks like another one but has been out injured. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
MechEng Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 11 hours ago, SRT100 said: Bring back Kapil Dev. No, use sanjeevani mantra and ressurect Mohammed Nissar from his grave to play for team India. Link to comment
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