Shreyas Iyer: "I am just waiting for my chance."

[ganeshran]

2 hours ago, figo6762 said:

Wonder how many in ICF have faced Starc and hazelwood in Bangalore under a full house to comment that ... you are not convinced ... wonder how y’ll will feel if the same rules apply to you at your job ... 

ppl should just STFU and appreciate when  any player does well and not moan about what he cannot do .... Sheryas is much better than anything that the BCCI has done in the past with the number 4 position .... for BCCI’s BS selection policy I think they have done ok... with Sheyas so far ...  

 

Lol wut 

 

By this logic we should shut down ICF because none of the members here have ever played cricket at a professional level. It is absolutely important to point out discrepancies in players, even upcoming ones. If they work on it and improve well and good, if not then someone else is in the queue to replace them 

[vvvslaxman]

56 minutes ago, sandsaims said:

His game against the short ball is extremely suspect. Getting away in Bangalore is one thing but when playing in SENA he will be in trouble.

We have to get rid of this SENA obsession. "Extremely suspect" is over-reaction. He is late on his pull. But guys who could never even get into position has dealt with short ball to avoid it and made runs. 

Watch this and tell is Iyer as bad as this?

 

 

[TNAmarkFromIndia]

15 hours ago, Ajju said:

Looks like Rohit when in flow.

When Iyer goes after a bowler, he really goes after the bowler. He did that in IPL when he hit Shivam Mavi for 4 sixes in a row, to Afif Hossain of Bangladesh when he hit 3 sixes in a row, and also to West Indies' Roston Chase in that 31-run over. While certain players would rather play the ball on the merit and give the bowler respect, he goes after them ball after ball.

[Vk1]

He might become a crucial figure like Yuvraj in future. Not the same class or level but still effective. 

[Cricwala]

16 hours ago, sandsaims said:

His game against the short ball is extremely suspect. Getting away in Bangalore is one thing but when playing in SENA he will be in trouble.

i would argue most players struggle against good, hostile short-pitched bowling...even likes of Steve Waugh, Eoin Morgan, Sehwag, Ganguly had/have issues with it. But that doesn't mean the player can't succeed in SENA, especially in LOIs. You can only bowl only 2 bouncers in ODIs, so even a Starc can be lined up. And you can still target the lesser bowlers. If Iyer can duck, fend off the short-pitched stuff, he has the strike power to make the other deliveries count. Big question mark over him is his game against moving ball which is why he is not a test batsman for me.

[Cricwala]

15 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

We have to get rid of this SENA obsession. "Extremely suspect" is over-reaction. He is late on his pull. But guys who could never even get into position has dealt with short ball to avoid it and made runs. 

Watch this and tell is Iyer as bad as this?

 

 

yup, watching most of our batsmen being outmatched overseas against quick bowling in 80s and 90s has left a deep imprint on our psyche...we fail to realize that if India had a pace battery back then like we have now, we could have given back as good as we got in those tours.

 

ALL BATSMEN struggle against hostile short-stuff (see English or SA batsmen capitulate in front of Mitchell Johnson) and seaming ball (Branderson have destroyed many Aussie line ups in Eng). Actually, Indian batsmen (Tendulkar, Dravid, VVS, Kohli, Pujara) have played such bowling better than most in last 2 decades

[sandsaims]

22 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

We have to get rid of this SENA obsession. "Extremely suspect" is over-reaction. He is late on his pull. But guys who could never even get into position has dealt with short ball to avoid it and made runs. 

Watch this and tell is Iyer as bad as this?

 

 

Its not about SENA teams or conditions, its about winning matches wherever India plays  and SENA conditions are the most challenging for Asian teams. Performing in all conditions is what separates a Tendulkar or a Dravid from the likes of Debang Gandhi or SS Das.

[Ankit_sharma03]

On 1/19/2020 at 10:00 PM, Ajju said:

Looks like Rohit when in flow.

X factor player only problem weak againsy genuine quicks

kuch bhi

Only samson in full flow looks like rohit

[Ankit_sharma03]

Its just not about short ball - In one of the pre show it was shown he has a weakness when spinners bowls 85k+ he looses his bat shape
 

https://www.hotstar.com/in/sports/cricket/sri-lanka-tour-of-india-201920/india-vs-sri-lanka-m600719/match-clips/replay-india-vs-sl-2nd-t20i/1440005920

 

Check at 4.39.45 time code where laxman shows in clips.

 

These small small things will now be his challenge ....lets see how he comeback to this challenge

[ShoonyaSifar]

Lucky to have batted at the same batting position #4 in back to back matches. Could soon be at number 5 or 6 in NZ T20s

[coffee_rules]

Takes eyes off the ball on short pitch, dangerous. He will do OK in India. Not yet cemented his place yet.

[putrevus]

As some said Steve Waugh survived without having a hook shot.Iyer has done nothing wrong for him not to get more chances.

[ShoonyaSifar]

6 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Its just not about short ball - In one of the pre show it was shown he has a weakness when spinners bowls 85k+ he looses his bat shape
 

https://www.hotstar.com/in/sports/cricket/sri-lanka-tour-of-india-201920/india-vs-sri-lanka-m600719/match-clips/replay-india-vs-sl-2nd-t20i/1440005920

 

Check at 4.39.45 time code where laxman shows in clips.

 

These small small things will now be his challenge ....lets see how he comeback to this challenge

With due respect to VVS, Iyer has murdered countless Indian spinners in FC cricket, no other way he’ll have a FC avg of 52 at a SR of 81.
 

What not one of these experts, while dissecting young players’ technique, talk about is their insecurities and the terrible psychological state of playing under a dimwit captain who is a self-centered  dictator. Not once you’ll hear them talk about how young players are being rotated randomly or that they lack clarity about their roles. You’d expect someone like VVS, who was himself forced to open from 1996-2000 to have a place in test squad and had to declare he would only play as a MO batsman, to highlight the current dilemma of young batsmen. Perhaps that’s too much to expect.

[Ankit_sharma03]

3 minutes ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

With due respect to VVS, Iyer has murdered countless Indian spinners in FC cricket, no other way he’ll have a FC avg of 52 at a SR of 81.
 

thats what he is saying n showing he murders anyone that bowls slow but the one who darts 85km+ troubles him and he shows it as well 

 

[prudent_kreeda]

6 minutes ago, putrevus said:

As some said Steve Waugh survived without having a hook shot.Iyer has done nothing wrong for him not to get more chances.

    Good thing is he is not a contender in tests . In one dayers you can survive . The thing is you need to develop some scoring shots without getting out . 

    Also they cannot bowl lot many bouncers in an over . 

    Since he is not good at pull/hook , he should continue what he did yesterday .  Play shots on the off side . 

     Whether its the shortish deliveries or yorkers , you can  play shots on off side .with the stance he is taking now. 

[ShoonyaSifar]

6 minutes ago, prudent_kreeda said:

    Good thing is he is not a contender in tests . In one dayers you can survive . The thing is you need to develop some scoring shots without getting out . 

    Also they cannot bowl lot many bouncers in an over . 

    Since he is not good at pull/hook , he should continue what he did yesterday .  Play shots on the off side . 

     Whether its the shortish deliveries or yorkers , you can  play shots on off side .with the stance he is taking now. 

Why would you pigeonhole someone with FC average of 52 and SR of 81 as not a Test prospect? The 202*(210) for India A vs Aussies in 2017 should have got him a Test spot but his ‘attitude is suspect’ was the excuse at that time.

[prudent_kreeda]

20 minutes ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

Why would you pigeonhole someone with FC average of 52 and SR of 81 as not a Test prospect? The 202*(210) for India A vs Aussies in 2017 should have got him a Test spot but his ‘attitude is suspect’ was the excuse at that time.

      Just put forth the fact that , he is not in contention based on selection we are seeing for tests. Was here ever even in 15 member test squad any time recently . In tests bowlers have the chance to  subject  such players to relentless barrage  till they throw in the towel . Finding it tough playing 4-5 overs in 50 overs shows lot .. lot needs to get right to get into test side that too with the competition around..

[Vilander]

56 minutes ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

Why would you pigeonhole someone with FC average of 52 and SR of 81 as not a Test prospect? The 202*(210) for India A vs Aussies in 2017 should have got him a Test spot but his ‘attitude is suspect’ was the excuse at that time.

in tests he could get multiple relentless short ball overs, with many balls aimed at his head and most at his rib cage.

[vvvslaxman]

3 hours ago, sandsaims said:

Its not about SENA teams or conditions, its about winning matches wherever India plays  and SENA conditions are the most challenging for Asian teams. Performing in all conditions is what separates a Tendulkar or a Dravid from the likes of Debang Gandhi or SS Das.

Why do you think India struggles in SENA? They reached 2013 CT final and won.  2017 CT. Three of the semi finalists were Asian teams.  2019 India reached semis. Why do you think Asian teams struggle in SENA conditions especially in limited overs? They are all flat tracks.

[vvvslaxman]

• You guys keep forgetting unlike the past era, India is the best bowling attack in the world when it comes to pace. They bombarded every Aussie batsman with short stuffs. Iyer sure plays our own bowlers in the nets. They make the assessment there.  I was suspect about his on the up shots more than the bouncers. Even Yuvraj was suspect against bounce when it reaches him at shoulder height. Only when it is hip height he would punish. Same with Dhawan. Many times he got bounced out.  Rohit sharma, Rahane, Kohli, Karthik are top pull shot players.  Pujara is not bad. He can hold his own.  Why are we not playing Rahane as he has this oh so perfect technique against short ball.  or Karthik for that matter or Pujara?  We miss the X factor. That is where Iyer comes in. Someone who can competely change the momentum of the game in a matter of 3 or 4 overs. That skill is 10 times more important than bouncer handling ability.