nevada Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 3 hours ago, vvvslaxman said: Since the day when Walsh let Salim jaffer go with warning (a match they ended up losing and couldn't make it to semi because of that) this act of not mankading is considered some "Nobel peace prize" awardsque act by all sundries. This is 100% cricket law. There should ideally be no hazy area. Technically it doesn't matter if he is only 1 inch out or 5 yards out. It is all the same. How hard it is to keep the bat in if not the whole body until he releases. You will still have enough time especially with a spinner bowling to have a head start. Yes. There is no grey area here. If you extend this further, then run out should not be done if a batsman slips and fumbles while taking a run. Stumping should not be done just because a batsman lunged forward and while trying to move back, took his foot off the ground for a split second. And if a catch spills out of a fielder's hands, the fielder next to him should not dive and catch it. The batsman should be given a gentle warning and let off in all such cases with a smile. Batters have no qualms taking guard right handed and smacking the ball like a left hander but expect bowlers to be generous and noble towards them. Commentators who praise the switch hit as a genius move need to praise Mankading as a genius move too. The bowler can do whatever is legal to get a batsman out, period. But they bash the bowler because it is their mindset that somehow, a bowler is a mere ballboy and should not exceed his aukaat(status) with smart moves. This is total hypocrisy. And, hypocrisy is showering loads of sympathies and welcoming back two convicted overseas cheaters with open arms but bashing one of our own players for operating well within the law. Gollum, express bowling, Sachinism and 3 others 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lannister Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 I hope someone does this to brat Kohli and see him whining all the way to the dressing room. If you are rooting for the opposition, this is the golden time for laughs. The Dark Horse, Gollum and velu 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikola Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 7 minutes ago, Lannister said: I hope someone does this to brat Kohli and see him whining all the way to the dressing room. If you are rooting for the opposition, this is the golden time for laughs. Yeah and end their career as well. velu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afan Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 5 minutes ago, nevada said: Yes. There is no grey area here. If you extend this further, then run out should not be done if a batsman slips and fumbles while taking a run. Stumping should not be done just because a batsman lunged forward and while trying to move back, took his foot off the ground for a split second. And if a catch spills out of a fielder's hands, the fielder next to him should not dive and catch it. The batsman should be given a gentle warning and let off in all such cases with a smile. Batters have no qualms taking guard right handed and smacking the ball like a left hander but expect bowlers to be generous and noble towards them. Commentators who praise the switch hit as a genius move need to praise Mankading as a genius move too. The bowler can do whatever is legal to get a batsman out, period. But they bash the bowler because it is their mindset that somehow, a bowler is a mere ballboy and should not exceed his aukaat(status) with smart moves. This is total hypocrisy. And, hypocrisy is showering loads of sympathies and welcoming back two convicted overseas cheaters with open arms but bashing one of our own players for operating well within the law. Absolutely.. There are grey areas in the game and we should leave it at just that. It takes a lot of conviction to swim against the tide and knowing well that he will be criticized he still went for it.. Well that act has actually won the game for his team , one gone over to the next one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeStMiDz Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Follow Tino Best on twitter for some quality retorts to those who are crying about this incident. flamy, Gollum and The Dark Horse 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tendulkar1996 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 (edited) Ashwin did nothing wrong,its within the law.He played ruthlessly but fairly,though not in a gentlemanly fashion.He's captain with an immense amount of pressure on him and that showed. Edited March 26, 2019 by Tendulkar1996 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wall2018 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 At this rate... Some day stumping will also be called bad sportsmanship.... velu and Zero_Unit 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hound Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 mishra, Zero_Unit and speedheat 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Fixer/doper/shirt puller/fake appealer/obstructor Shane Warne taking the moral high ground and talking about Spirit of Cricket on twitter.....*ing twat. And to Indians supporting him mishra, speedheat, Stan AF and 4 others 1 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Horse Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 22 minutes ago, WeStMiDz said: Follow Tino Best on twitter for some quality retorts to those who are crying about this incident. He's giving it to the poms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 If you wanna have a good laugh mishra and flamy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mishra Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 No one is stopping any player do this. Its allways Indians and West Indians ( I dare to say even South African and Kiwis) who are supposed to let go of rule twisting by English and Aussies. speedheat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Gollum said: I mentioned this in previous comment of mine on this thread. I saw the repeat yesterday and noticed Butler cheating everytime in that over. http://www.indiancricketfans.com/forums/topic/113082-ashwin-your-a-ficking-disgrace/?do=findComment&comment=3878117 Gollum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Just now, mishra said: I mentioned this in previous comment of mine on this thread. I saw the repeat yesterday and noticed Butler cheating everytime in that over. http://www.indiancricketfans.com/forums/topic/113082-ashwin-your-a-ficking-disgrace/?do=findComment&comment=3878117 Butler has a history with this sort of behavior. Wonder how he has become the hero of this saga inspite of not following the rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Horse Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 11 minutes ago, Gollum said: If you wanna have a good laugh See this Gollum, velu, flamy and 3 others 1 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedheat Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 7 minutes ago, The Dark Horse said: See this Tino still bowling phaaast. Zero_Unit, Stan AF, velu and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Gollum said: Butler has a history with this sort of behavior. Wonder how he has become the hero of this saga inspite of not following the rules. I want to make a small distinction. In test arena, Most batsman are chilled relaxed. And its a rarity the back while delivery is released. But when crunch time comes where ball vs runs equation becomes vital, batsman start leaving the crease. Sometime, A quick single or a double becomes possible simply because they have taken the start. The batsman know it very well and hence they do it. Only ones with higher moral standards dont go past the popping crease. Edited March 26, 2019 by mishra Gollum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mishra Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 18 minutes ago, Gollum said: Butler has a history with this sort of behavior. Wonder how he has become the hero of this saga inspite of not following the rules. TBH, I even dont care if batsman is on the other end. For me, There is a rule and every bowler knows the rule very clearly, as soon as bowler sees batsman taking a head start, he gets distracted and it impacts the rythm and accuracy of bowler, as he starts thinking whether he should warn/mankad or not? So instead of looking at where he should deliver the ball he is distracted to see where non strikers foot/bat is. This has a huge impact. People/fans cant see this aspect unless they have been through this. construction430 and flamy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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