Any self respecting team would sack these two players for this display

[Real McCoy]

11 hours ago, maniac said:

No I expect them to try and win. What kind of an attitude is that? Is this a test match? 

Considering Rohit's batting in the first 10, one would mistake it for a test

[bahubali]

18 minutes ago, FischerTal said:

you criticized SR by comparing to pandya. there is no difference between both. Joker 

Yes the difference was one was playing to win so he was hitting out and other was only playing for his avg and so took the max opportunity in last over which he always doe s.... unfortunately it's really difficult to explain dhoni bhakts

Edited July 1, 2019 by bahubali

[Amit228]

There are only three batsman in current team i.e Rohit, kohli nd pandya.. rest all are epitome of mediocrity.. rahul is a mental midget who has successfully graduated from dhoni school of thoughts with flying colours, Shankar nd pant are half baked, jhadhav the feeble dwarf can't clear 30 yard circle.. nd then comes lord thala who can hit unadkats nd dhawals to oblivion in ipl but in international cricket he can't hit a dime. 

So with only three batsman nd with bumrah ( other bowlers goes into hiding when opposition goes banging about their business, make no mistake shami death bowling credentials are deplorable, kulcha disintegrates when someone attacks them ) india is dreaming of winning worldcup.. sighh... We have been lucky in earlier games where top order has contributed nd bowlers rose to the occasion.. with dhawan missing road to the worldcup already looks shabbily opaque.

[bahubali]

3 minutes ago, Amit228 said:

There are only three batsman in current team i.e Rohit, kohli nd pandya.. rest all are epitome of mediocrity.. rahul is a mental midget who has successfully graduated from dhoni school of thoughts with flying colours, Shankar nd pant are half baked, jhadhav the feeble dwarf can't clear 30 yard circle.. nd then comes lord thala who can hit unadkats nd dhawals to oblivion in ipl but in international cricket he can't hit a dime. 

So with only three batsman nd with bumrah ( other bowlers goes into hiding when opposition goes banging about their business, make no mistake shami death bowling credentials are deplorable, kulcha disintegrates when someone attacks them ) india is dreaming of winning worldcup.. sighh... We have been lucky in earlier games where top order has contributed nd bowlers rose to the occasion.. with dhawan missing road to the worldcup already looks shabbily opaque.

+1 and still for ever loss they blame top order but never find fault in usless thala and his crony ganag.

[Amit228]

We can find solace in the fact that even  with such appalling team playing in the world cup who for once with their defeatest mentality which drops anchors after 45 overs have beaten Pakistan nd our cent percent world cup record against pakistan being manatained.. i shudder at imagination of what could have happened if kohli nd rohit had gotten out inside 15 overs in pakistan game... Kohli for all his aggressiveness nd professionalism goes gaga about thala nd with the mediocrity rising he goes above himself to defend such ludicrous display of batting with lame excuses that pitch suddenly becomes onerous when lord thala steps into it. 

[mishra]

15 minutes ago, Amit228 said:

We can find solace in the fact that even  with such appalling team playing in the world cup who for once with their defeatest mentality which drops anchors after 45 overs have beaten Pakistan nd our cent percent world cup record against pakistan being manatained.. i shudder at imagination of what could have happened if kohli nd rohit had gotten out inside 15 overs in pakistan game... Kohli for all his aggressiveness nd professionalism goes gaga about thala nd with the mediocrity rising he goes above himself to defend such ludicrous display of batting with lame excuses that pitch suddenly becomes onerous when lord thala steps into it. 

We would have scored 270+ even if we are 3 down in first 10 overs. TM should understand this and play Jaddu and Shankar whenever opponent is filled with left right combo so that kohli can have 7 bowler cushion 

[Stan AF]

54 minutes ago, Real McCoy said:

Steve Waugh is also better than little master. Waugh never played an innings like the one I will be showing here. There are plenty of innings where little master played like this

 

 

Is Tendulkar still playing in the team??. Why bring someone who retired 6 years ago?? If tendulkar jumps into a ditch would dhoni be doing the same???

 

Dhoni fans bringing Tendulkar in for everything only means they have already lost the argument. If your only argument is Tendulkar did this and that so dhoni would be doing the same means he should have also just retired like tendulkar is now.

[SRT100]

So many Indians on here are confused as to why there is a problem.

 

The problem is India have not chosen the correct team for the world cup.

 

Rahul, Jedhav and Dhoni for starters have no right to be placed in this team. This should have happened months ago and trialed properly. Pant should have been made wicket keeper. Yes he was a few months back in ODIs but made some mistakes then he was rejected. He is young and will get better.

 

I was angry when Hitman and Kohli would score big hundreds because the middle order was never tested. They should have been rested from many ODIs so that other players trialed in their place. Not for one or two matches but for all 5 matches.

 

For the World Cup we should have had

 

1. Dhawan

2. Hitman

3. Kohli

4.

5.

6. Pandya

7. Pant

8. Kumar

9. Kuldeep

10. Shami

11. Bumrah

 

This should have formed the skeleton of the World Cup XI.

5 good batsmen.

2 attacking batsmen

4 strong bowlers

 

We had 4 and 5 as slots to be filled.

 

The XI picked for this World Cup is a mess.

[Real McCoy]

5 minutes ago, Stan AF said:

Is Tendulkar still playing in the team??. Why bring someone who retired 6 years ago?? If tendulkar jumps into a ditch would dhoni be doing the same???

 

He has already jumped into the same ditch that Sachin jumped into Its ironic that Sachin talks about showing intent and creating a shitstorm when he did the same mistake in his playing days.

You are denying the fact that the OP has a grudge against Dhoni because Sachin was called out for his selfishness and so do you. That is the reason I posted to remind him that Sachin should get the same treatment that he wants to be meted out to Dhoni. He equated Dhoni and Jadhav with Prabhakar and Mongia of matchfixing fame Emoshional hogaya thoda

[Amit228]

24 minutes ago, SRT100 said:

So many Indians on here are confused as to why there is a problem.

 

The problem is India have not chosen the correct team for the world cup.

 

Rahul, Jedhav and Dhoni for starters have no right to be placed in this team. This should have happened months ago and trialed properly. Pant should have been made wicket keeper. Yes he was a few months back in ODIs but made some mistakes then he was rejected. He is young and will get better.

 

I was angry when Hitman and Kohli would score big hundreds because the middle order was never tested. They should have been rested from many ODIs so that other players trialed in their place. Not for one or two matches but for all 5 matches.

 

For the World Cup we should have had

 

1. Dhawan

2. Hitman

3. Kohli

4.

5.

6. Pandya

7. Pant

8. Kumar

9. Kuldeep

10. Shami

11. Bumrah

 

This should have formed the skeleton of the World Cup XI.

5 good batsmen.

2 attacking batsmen

4 strong bowlers

 

We had 4 and 5 as slots to be filled.

 

The XI picked for this World Cup is a mess.

^^This....  But for this quagmire i will hold kohli accountable .. i hv no qualms in admitting he has been the biggest dhonitards. For last two years we have been witnessing the godawful display of batting by thala however kohli rather than being courageous as he depicts turned out be a feeble minded dothead. Thala kept on piling lousiness filled innings however it was more cringe inducing to see kohli coming out and defending such appalling thala's innings.. he meekly surrended in front of mediocrity.. nd to save the day he wasted one year in another epitome of medicority named rayudu. Kohli could have been more brave he could have setted an example by booting out mediocrity but instead he took them all for merry rides.. now if we loose the cup the onus of the shambolic performance should lie solitary on kohli.

Edited July 1, 2019 by Amit228

[Vijy]

56 minutes ago, SRT100 said:

So many Indians on here are confused as to why there is a problem.

 

The problem is India have not chosen the correct team for the world cup.

 

Rahul, Jedhav and Dhoni for starters have no right to be placed in this team. This should have happened months ago and trialed properly. Pant should have been made wicket keeper. Yes he was a few months back in ODIs but made some mistakes then he was rejected. He is young and will get better.

 

I was angry when Hitman and Kohli would score big hundreds because the middle order was never tested. They should have been rested from many ODIs so that other players trialed in their place. Not for one or two matches but for all 5 matches.

 

For the World Cup we should have had

 

1. Dhawan

2. Hitman

3. Kohli

4.

5.

6. Pandya

7. Pant

8. Kumar

9. Kuldeep

10. Shami

11. Bumrah

 

This should have formed the skeleton of the World Cup XI.

5 good batsmen.

2 attacking batsmen

4 strong bowlers

 

We had 4 and 5 as slots to be filled.

 

The XI picked for this World Cup is a mess.

maybe gill at 4 and iyer at 5.

[Amit228]

13 minutes ago, Vijy said:

maybe gill at 4 and iyer at 5.

I second that.. however with kohli at helm i find it a far cry.. don't be surprised even after worldcup kohli keep on monkey riding the lord thalas, Biryanis nd jhadhavs.. taking them for another few years of merry rides. 

[Vijy]

1 minute ago, Amit228 said:

I second that.. however with kohli at helm i find it a far cry.. don't be surprised even after worldcup kohli keep on monkey riding the lord thalas, Biryanis nd jhadhavs.. taking them for another few years of merry rides. 

yes, dhongi will play 2023 WC in all likelihood, if the decision is solely up to bewda and brat.

[SRT100]

What I would like to see happen in India is that the squad selected in the future is completely unbiased in their selections and are neutral participants in the process of deciding who is to be a part of it.

 

I genuinely feel team India is marred by Kohli in not wanting up and coming kids to surpass him.

 

One could argue Kohli is biased and has a vested interest in protecting his marketing as a brand.

[G_B_]

The first 10 an last 10 is where India lost the chase...

 

whatever you may think of Kohli and Rohit 27 runs in 1 over is not good enough.

 

Credit needs to be given to likes of Archer has well who mostly operated in those overs. I suspect more than Dhoni Jadhav Kohli Rohit the calibre of the bowling was really good.

[raki05]

 

[rkt.india]

5 hours ago, FischerTal said:

absolute joke. 53 meter boundary. are there no ICC rules and regulations that come into play? 

59 meter it was, not 53 and 59 is the minimum required for sb international game by ICC rules 

[maniac]

7 hours ago, Real McCoy said:

If you put Dhoni and Jadhav to blame, you should also put blame on KLR, Rohit and Kohli for their performance in the first 10 overs. Rohit's 12 off 30 balls is completely unacceptable for an opener in 2019. It was not like the pitch was a minefield and Woakes was bowling at 150. Woakes is an ordinary trundler who got shown against Australia with Finch and Warner putting him to the boundary rope. Woakes bowled 3 maiden on the trot and it was Kohli who thrust some momentum into the innings while Rohit was ordering a cake through swiggy

Rahul played 9 balls to woakes and Kohli the remaining 3 which means Woakes bowled 2 maidens to Rahul and Kohli not Rohit.

 

Anyways Look, I have said above that 27 in 10 overs was unacceptable. Wasn’t the best approach chasing 330+. However if you think a overly sedate start at the top is worse than dead batting in the last 5 with still an achievable target than good for you. 

[Real McCoy]

6 minutes ago, maniac said:

Rahul played 9 balls to woakes and Kohli the remaining 3 which means Woakes bowled 2 maidens to Rahul and Kohli not Rohit.

 

Anyways Look, I have said above that 27 in 10 overs was unacceptable. Wasn’t the best approach chasing 330+. However if you think a overly sedate start at the top is worse than dead batting in the last 5 with still an achievable target than good for you. 

What you are not saying is he bowled the 3rd maiden to Rohit. Even by his slow coach standards, that was lame that he gave a maiden to Woakes in the 5th over which is when you know a thing or two about ball moving or not. Like you, Im also saying that the approach at the end was something any Indian fan would be proud of. But chasing 70 runs in 30 balls is too much to expect out of Dhoni and Jadhav. Even Pandya couldnt do it. While he was in, we needed 104 of the last 10. Looks like they both scored 34 in the next 5. If the start was something like 47 in 10 overs, it could be possible. It was a total *up batting from start to finish but Dhoni is the punchbag of ICF and MTC wants revenge for what went on here when Sachin retired. So more power to him

[maniac]

3 minutes ago, Real McCoy said:

What you are not saying is he bowled the 3rd maiden to Rohit. Even by his slow coach standards, that was lame that he gave a maiden to Woakes in the 5th over which is when you know a thing or two about ball moving or not. Like you, Im also saying that the approach at the end was something any Indian fan would be proud of. But chasing 70 runs in 30 balls is too much to expect out of Dhoni and Jadhav. Even Pandya couldnt do it. While he was in, we needed 104 of the last 10. Looks like they both scored 34 in the next 5. If the start was something like 47 in 10 overs, it could be possible. It was a total *up batting from start to finish but Dhoni is the punchbag of ICF and MTC wants revenge for what went on here when Sachin retired. So more power to him

Tell me what is considered a worse performance 27 runs in 10 overs when the first wicket fell at 7 or 8 or scoring 70 runs in the last 10 with 6 wickets in hand and losing with 5 wickets.

 

Apples to Apples here. I am acknowledging both are terrible performances but it is clear  to me which one is worse.