Gollum Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 Stradlater 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewy Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 China today announces revised death tolls in Wuhan - 50% increase say missed out people who died in homes even true, then that's just Wuhan, what about other cities. Alam_dar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandeep Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 2 hours ago, chewy said: China today announces revised death tolls in Wuhan - 50% increase say missed out people who died in homes even true, then that's just Wuhan, what about other cities. Isn't it amazing how their 'correction' number is exactly 50%. These commie morons don't realize that the rest of the world isn't as stupid as the sheep whose brains they've been censoring for decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandeep Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 Chinese Govt TV network releases Arabic video for Middle-East in an effort to sell the idea that the Virus came from the US not China. The Commies are betting that places outside US/Europe, are going to be more susceptible to buying their nonsense. And guess what, moronic empty vessels like @Alam_dar show that there's something to that tactic. Wherever there are massive fields of idiots, you can farm all sorts of cooky conspiracy theories. diga, Real McCoy and Clarke 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alam_dar Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 (edited) On 4/17/2020 at 7:09 PM, sandeep said: The Commies are betting that places outside US/Europe, are going to be more susceptible to buying their nonsense. And guess what, moronic empty vessels like @Alam_dar show that there's something to that tactic. Wherever there are massive fields of idiots, you can farm all sorts of cooky conspiracy theories. I have never insulted Mr. @sandeep , but it is strange that none of his post about me is free of insults and abuses. And then such a person has become a Moderator at ICF. In fact, it is for the first time that we are discussing an issue, otherwise earlier he was constantly abusing me without even having any debate on any issue, which made me to believe that he is a actually a Muslim and hiding his Islam here. This could be the only reason for his "immense" hate against me. Usually Muslims hate the ex-Muslims 10 times more than any Hindu ****** Edited April 19, 2020 by Alam_dar WARNING: Do not use religious insults. Clarke, VT87 and sandeep 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandeep Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 German Newspaper, not pulling any punches - no meanness, just direct no holds barred fact-based slaps. Gotta love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordPrabhzy Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 On 4/17/2020 at 7:02 PM, Alam_dar said: I have never insulted Mr. @sandeep , but it is strange that none of his post about me is free of insults and abuses. And then such a person has become a Moderator at ICF. In fact, it is for the first time that we are discussing an issue, otherwise earlier he was constantly abusing me without even having any debate on any issue, which made me to believe that he is a actually a Muslim and hiding his Islam here. This could be the only reason for his "immense" hate against me. Usually Muslims hate the ex-Muslims 10 times more than any Hindu ****** lucky you're not in front of me.. i would have pounded you to the ground. Dont test the Hindu patience. raki05 and Real McCoy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McCoy Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 3 hours ago, LordPrabhzy said: lucky you're not in front of me.. i would have pounded you to the ground. Dont test the Hindu patience. Finally mr lame rod shows his true colors. I knew it before hand. Wasn't he the one who points out "hindu extremists" as if they are on the same scale as muslim extremists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan AF Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1271028/Angela-Merkel-Germany-China-coronavirus-blame-Wuhan-Xi-Jinping-Trump-latest Germany sends China 130 billion poundsterling bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kosingh Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 23 minutes ago, Stan AF said: https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1271028/Angela-Merkel-Germany-China-coronavirus-blame-Wuhan-Xi-Jinping-Trump-latest Germany sends China 130 billion poundsterling bill misleading article. A German tabloid opinion editorial sent the bill to China. Not the German government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewy Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 On 4/19/2020 at 3:18 AM, sandeep said: German Newspaper, not pulling any punches - no meanness, just direct no holds barred fact-based slaps. Gotta love it. What's with the insecurity of these Chinese government, bloody every Chinese embassy writing letters to any Media group being critical of China. Though the Australian reply was the best so far. lol, won't be long before ICF receives one...we need to prepare our rebuttal too also, countdown for China to start parroting and pointing finger calling anyone mildly critical of China ....Sinophobia raki05 and sandeep 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewy Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 Some group filed lawsuit case against China in Florida https://www.foxnews.com/politics/class-action-suit-seeks-to-make-china-pay This is probably just symbolic since it will be difficult to sue another country Quote This is made difficult, however, by the Foreign Sovereign Immunities Act (FSIA) which prevents Americans from suing other countries except under specific circumstances. The plaintiffs claim they fit under the exceptions for commercial activity and "personal injury or death" that stems from "the tortious act or omission of that foreign state or of any official or employee of that foreign state while acting within the scope of his office or employment." Maybe they should sue all the Chinese state companies listed in the New York Stock exchanges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kosingh Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 I am a bit concerned that in the last few days India has been using those defective rapid "tests" from China to diagnose. These tests are highly inaccurate (as low as 20%) and are not even meant for diagnosis. Another way China is screwing us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan AF Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 ICMR halts testing from these rapid test kits for 2 days which were procured from China . Many are faulty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kosingh Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 30 minutes ago, Stan AF said: ICMR halts testing from these rapid test kits for 2 days which were procured from China . Many are faulty. It was incredibly stupid of us to have purchased these tests. The shockingly low accuracy of these tests has been known for weeks from reports of other countries. Stan AF 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vickydev Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 Chinese maal turning out to be faulty...I mean who could have predicted that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motomaverick Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 ‘Replace China’: India looks to lure more than 1,000 US businesses https://m.hindustantimes.com/business-news/covid-19-india-looks-to-lure-more-than-1-000-us-companies-out-of-china/story-m2ZVIIAcditZW9kTo2BqKK.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 https://twitter.com/ishitayadav/status/1260165910423191552?s=21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarke Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 Chor ki daadhi mein tinka https://edition.cnn.com/2020/05/18/asia/china-world-health-assembly-investigation-intl-hnk/index.html Russian President Vladimir Putin once called Xi Jinping, the Chinese leader, a "lone warrior." Putin was joking, but that description is starting to look more and more accurate. Russia has joined about 100 countries in backing a resolution at the upcoming World Health Assembly (WHA), calling for an independent inquiry into the coronavirus pandemic. The European Union-drafted resolution comes on the back of a push by Australia for an inquiry into China's initial handling of the crisis. That was met with an angry response from Beijing, which accused Canberra of a "highly irresponsible" move that could "disrupt international cooperation in fighting the pandemic and goes against people's shared aspiration." While the resolution to be presented at the annual meeting of World Health Organization (WHO) members, which begins on Monday in Geneva, does not single out China or any other country, it calls for an "impartial, independent and comprehensive evaluation" of "the (WHO)-coordinated international health response to Covid-19." The wording of the resolution is weak compared to Australia's previous calls for a probe into China's role and responsibility in the origin of the pandemic. This may have been necessary to get a majority of WHO member states to sign on -- particularly those, such as Russia, with traditionally strong ties to Beijing. But that doesn't mean China's government should rest easy. The potential for an independent probe, even one not initially tasked with investigating an individual country's response, to turn up damning or embarrassing information is great. Australian government sources told the ABC, the country's public broadcaster, that the resolution's language was sufficiently strong to "ensure that a proper and thorough investigation took place." Beijing has previously said it would only support an investigation held by the WHO, which has been accused of being overly influenced by China -- a charge top WHO officials refute. Speaking last week, China's ambassador to the UK, Liu Xiaoming said: "We're open, we are transparent, we have nothing to hide, we have nothing to fear. We welcome an international, independent review, but it has to be organized by the WHO." With more countries signing on to the EU resolution as the assembly nears, that may be out of China's hands. There were also indications that Beijing may accept the resolution: Chinese state media reported Monday that Xi would deliver a speech at the opening ceremony of the WHA, an unlikely move if Beijing was preparing to push back against a key agenda item. Any highly critical report could have a potentially disastrous effect on China's global standing, which has already taken a major knock as a result of the coronavirus crisis, with the United States in particular pushing a narrative that Beijing is to blame for the pandemic. China has consistently pushed back against any criticism, pointing to a warning given to the WHO in late December about a potential new strain of pneumonia spreading in the city of Wuhan. While the WHO -- and particularly Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus -- have praised China's response, a probe into the organization's initial handling will shine a spotlight on just what information China knew when, and how much was shared with the WHO. Top officials, including Xi, have admitted to being aware that the infection was spreading even as the Wuhan government was still downplaying its severity and police were detaining whistleblowers. In an interview with CNN on Saturday, Dr. Zhong Nanshan, the Chinese government's senior medical adviser and the public face of the country's fight against Covid-19, said the local authorities "didn't like to tell the truth at that time." He said: "At the very beginning they kept silent, and then I said probably we have (a larger) number of people being infected." Zhong added that he became suspicious when the number of officially reported cases in Wuhan remained at 41 for more than 10 days -- despite infections emerging overseas. "I didn't believe that result, so I (kept) asking and then, you have to give me the real number," he said. "I suppose they are very reluctant to answer my question." The suggestion that knee-jerk censorship or a deliberate coverup by Beijing enabled the virus to spread, first within China and then throughout the world, has been repeatedly and angrily refuted by Chinese officials. But this has nevertheless hurt the country's global standing, with foreign politicians -- particularly in the US but also in parts of Europe and the rest of the world -- referring to the "China virus" or blaming Beijing for the chaos they are now dealing with. China has come in for plenty of international criticism over the years: on human rights, its aggressive posturing in the South China Sea, and issues of trade and intellectual property. But often that dissent has come from Beijing's traditional rivals, such as the US -- many smaller countries have held their tongues, perhaps to ensure economic ties with China are maintained. However, the virus -- and the corresponding global economic slump -- has opened the door to a wave of criticism and pushback not experienced by Beijing for years. One example of how China's global standing has suffered as a result is another issue that will be on the docket at Monday's WHA meeting: whether to allow Taiwan to join. The trajectory of Taipei's international reputation during the pandemic has been the reverse of Beijing's. Taiwan has been hailed for its effective response to the virus, and numerous countries have backed the island's government in seeking to rejoin the WHA as an observer, a position it held until 2016, when Beijing forced it out after the traditionally pro-China KMT party lost power in Taiwan. On Friday, a Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman accused those countries who back Taiwan's participation as seeking "selfish political gains even at the expense of hijacking the WHA and undermining global anti-pandemic cooperation." He predicted that the proposal would be "firmly rejected by the vast majority of the international community." Fortunately for Beijing, this confidence did not have to be tested. Taiwan's Ministry of Foreign Affairs said in a statement Monday that it had agreed to shelve the issue until next year, due to the shortened nature of the current WHA and the pressing issue of the coronavirus pandemic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarke Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 Chor ki daadhi mein tinka https://edition.cnn.com/2020/05/18/asia/china-world-health-assembly-investigation-intl-hnk/index.html Russian President Vladimir Putin once called Xi Jinping, the Chinese leader, a "lone warrior." Putin was joking, but that description is starting to look more and more accurate. Russia has joined about 100 countries in backing a resolution at the upcoming World Health Assembly (WHA), calling for an independent inquiry into the coronavirus pandemic. The European Union-drafted resolution comes on the back of a push by Australia for an inquiry into China's initial handling of the crisis. That was met with an angry response from Beijing, which accused Canberra of a "highly irresponsible" move that could "disrupt international cooperation in fighting the pandemic and goes against people's shared aspiration." While the resolution to be presented at the annual meeting of World Health Organization (WHO) members, which begins on Monday in Geneva, does not single out China or any other country, it calls for an "impartial, independent and comprehensive evaluation" of "the (WHO)-coordinated international health response to Covid-19." The wording of the resolution is weak compared to Australia's previous calls for a probe into China's role and responsibility in the origin of the pandemic. This may have been necessary to get a majority of WHO member states to sign on -- particularly those, such as Russia, with traditionally strong ties to Beijing. But that doesn't mean China's government should rest easy. The potential for an independent probe, even one not initially tasked with investigating an individual country's response, to turn up damning or embarrassing information is great. Australian government sources told the ABC, the country's public broadcaster, that the resolution's language was sufficiently strong to "ensure that a proper and thorough investigation took place." Beijing has previously said it would only support an investigation held by the WHO, which has been accused of being overly influenced by China -- a charge top WHO officials refute. Speaking last week, China's ambassador to the UK, Liu Xiaoming said: "We're open, we are transparent, we have nothing to hide, we have nothing to fear. We welcome an international, independent review, but it has to be organized by the WHO." With more countries signing on to the EU resolution as the assembly nears, that may be out of China's hands. There were also indications that Beijing may accept the resolution: Chinese state media reported Monday that Xi would deliver a speech at the opening ceremony of the WHA, an unlikely move if Beijing was preparing to push back against a key agenda item. Any highly critical report could have a potentially disastrous effect on China's global standing, which has already taken a major knock as a result of the coronavirus crisis, with the United States in particular pushing a narrative that Beijing is to blame for the pandemic. China has consistently pushed back against any criticism, pointing to a warning given to the WHO in late December about a potential new strain of pneumonia spreading in the city of Wuhan. While the WHO -- and particularly Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus -- have praised China's response, a probe into the organization's initial handling will shine a spotlight on just what information China knew when, and how much was shared with the WHO. Top officials, including Xi, have admitted to being aware that the infection was spreading even as the Wuhan government was still downplaying its severity and police were detaining whistleblowers. In an interview with CNN on Saturday, Dr. Zhong Nanshan, the Chinese government's senior medical adviser and the public face of the country's fight against Covid-19, said the local authorities "didn't like to tell the truth at that time." He said: "At the very beginning they kept silent, and then I said probably we have (a larger) number of people being infected." Zhong added that he became suspicious when the number of officially reported cases in Wuhan remained at 41 for more than 10 days -- despite infections emerging overseas. "I didn't believe that result, so I (kept) asking and then, you have to give me the real number," he said. "I suppose they are very reluctant to answer my question." The suggestion that knee-jerk censorship or a deliberate coverup by Beijing enabled the virus to spread, first within China and then throughout the world, has been repeatedly and angrily refuted by Chinese officials. But this has nevertheless hurt the country's global standing, with foreign politicians -- particularly in the US but also in parts of Europe and the rest of the world -- referring to the "China virus" or blaming Beijing for the chaos they are now dealing with. China has come in for plenty of international criticism over the years: on human rights, its aggressive posturing in the South China Sea, and issues of trade and intellectual property. But often that dissent has come from Beijing's traditional rivals, such as the US -- many smaller countries have held their tongues, perhaps to ensure economic ties with China are maintained. However, the virus -- and the corresponding global economic slump -- has opened the door to a wave of criticism and pushback not experienced by Beijing for years. One example of how China's global standing has suffered as a result is another issue that will be on the docket at Monday's WHA meeting: whether to allow Taiwan to join. The trajectory of Taipei's international reputation during the pandemic has been the reverse of Beijing's. Taiwan has been hailed for its effective response to the virus, and numerous countries have backed the island's government in seeking to rejoin the WHA as an observer, a position it held until 2016, when Beijing forced it out after the traditionally pro-China KMT party lost power in Taiwan. On Friday, a Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman accused those countries who back Taiwan's participation as seeking "selfish political gains even at the expense of hijacking the WHA and undermining global anti-pandemic cooperation." He predicted that the proposal would be "firmly rejected by the vast majority of the international community." Fortunately for Beijing, this confidence did not have to be tested. Taiwan's Ministry of Foreign Affairs said in a statement Monday that it had agreed to shelve the issue until next year, due to the shortened nature of the current WHA and the pressing issue of the coronavirus pandemic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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