Pakistan is producing the likes of Shaheen Shah and Naseem Shah whilst India is producing nothing

[SecondSlip]

Why is it that India is not producing such bowlers? Where is it going wrong? Is the approach wrong, are the priorities wrong? Is it the pitches? Is it the quality of domestic cricket? Is it the coaching? Or is it something else?

[cric_fan]

Role models

In India, role models are batsmen.

In Pakistan, it’s bowlers.

Having said that, India is producing good fast bowlers?

[Gollum]

Troll thread.

 

589/3d (Warner 335), Eng series (Crawley 270?)...don't need such bowlers. Shaheen may develop but Naseem is another Mohd Sami, at least 15 better quicks than him in India atm. 

Edited October 27, 2020 by Gollum

[New guy]

Lol at Nassem shah. What has nasem shah achieved? We have bumrah, shami and Ishant at peak form so we don't need to blood in youngsters. Otherwise we would be forced to draft in younger bowlers like Pakistan too

 

So paradoxically, its lack of bowling talent in paksitan which is forcing them to draft 20 years and alleged teenagers into their final XI. No other country would do that

 

If Mavi and Nagarkoti were Paksitabis, they would be hyped after the U19 world cup and drafted into the international team already 

Edited October 27, 2020 by New guy

[Laaloo]

Saini? 

[Stan AF]

The obsession with everything Pakistan among  posters here in ICF is lol worthy. A real cry for help actually.

 

And this is a non-topic, not worthy of any real discussion.

Edited October 27, 2020 by Stan AF

[Suhaan]

In 2016 Pakistan conceded highest odi total in odis

It was a record then with their best phassst pacers

India has left paxtan behind in producing pacers years ago

Paxtan is a country of chaos,an utter pathetic bowling attack first hand demanded an overhaul and they recruited to uncle kids who were below average everywhere

Naseem Shah is disaster,he has a complex action,they marketed his age which didn't help him either

Their PisSL bowlers would have been smoked for 55-60 runs had they played IPL,playing against below average club level batters doesn't put them above our lot,they haven't done anything which can deemed outstanding

[cric_fan]

In 2016 Pakistan conceded highest odi total in odis
It was a record then with their best phassst pacers
India has left paxtan behind in producing pacers years ago
Paxtan is a country of chaos,an utter pathetic bowling attack first hand demanded an overhaul and they recruited to uncle kids who were below average everywhere
Naseem Shah is disaster,he has a complex action,they marketed his age which didn't help him either
Their PisSL bowlers would have been smoked for 55-60 runs had they played IPL,playing against below average club level batters doesn't put them above our lot,they haven't done anything which can deemed outstanding

Okay calm down uncle. Why so angry?

[Straight Drive]

Why do we need to produce Naseem Shah and Shaheen Afridi when we produce much successful and superior bowlers like Bumrah and Shami. There is no need to lower the standards. The average and strike rates of Bumrah and Shami are so much better.

 

Jasprit Bumrah - Avg 20.33 at SR 45.3

Mohd. Shami - Avg 27.36 at SR 49.4

 

Naseem Shah - Avg 34.81 at SR 60.4

Shaheen Afridi - Avg 31.34  at SR 59

 

 

 

[Suhaan]

3 minutes ago, cric_fan said:

 

Okay calm down uncle. Why so angry?

 

Koi na chorey,bura na maan

Mai tere naal pyar karda,sachhi

[cric_fan]

In 2016 Pakistan conceded highest odi total in odis
It was a record then with their best phassst pacers
India has left paxtan behind in producing pacers years ago
Paxtan is a country of chaos,an utter pathetic bowling attack first hand demanded an overhaul and they recruited to uncle kids who were below average everywhere
Naseem Shah is disaster,he has a complex action,they marketed his age which didn't help him either
Their PisSL bowlers would have been smoked for 55-60 runs had they played IPL,playing against below average club level batters doesn't put them above our lot,they haven't done anything which can deemed outstanding

In 2017, Paxtan smashed your rockstars to smitherns in that final when it mattered the most. Most Indians still have not got over it

[Suhaan]

1 minute ago, cric_fan said:

 

In 2017, Paxtan smashed your rockstars to smitherns in that final when it mattered the most. Most Indians still have not got over it

 

Lol  a paxtani at the end when he has nothing to contribute ,vomits same old rag moments as if

Koi na,ham na yaad dilate tere ko wc ki?

[cric_fan]

Troll thread.
 
589/3d (Warner 335), Eng series (Crawley 270?)...don't need such bowlers. Shaheen may develop but Naseem is another Mohd Shami, at least 15 better quicks than him in India atm. 

You are saying Shami is a bad bowler? Raam kar

[cric_fan]

Lol  a paxtani at the end when he has nothing to contribute ,vomits same old rag moments as if
Koi na,ham na yaad dilate tere ko wc ki?

Jal gai na

[cric_fan]

Saini looks class

Disappointed with Nagorkati

And what’s up with Mavi’s action- the guy is literally looking up at the sky at the point of delivery.

Wasn’t that Khaleel guy supposed to be special?

[Gollum]

4 hours ago, cric_fan said:

 

You are saying Shami is a bad bowler? Raam kar

 

Oops typo, Mohd Sami who in fact started with a bang, and was pretty decent in ODI/T20. 

 

 

Edited October 27, 2020 by Gollum

[Gollum]

Pakistan has more promising batsmen than bowlers right now, and that keeper Rizwan is class. Spin stocks too quite down. 

[Austin 3:!6]

12 minutes ago, cric_fan said:

 

In 2017, Paxtan smashed your rockstars to smitherns in that final when it mattered the most. Most Indians still have not got over it

 

 

Since that match 

 

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/8368/scorecard/1116937/india-under-19s-vs-pakistan-under-19s-semi-final-icc-under-19-world-cup-2017-18

 

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/8532/scorecard/1153247/india-vs-pakistan-5th-match-group-a-asia-cup-2018

 

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/8532/scorecard/1153251/india-vs-pakistan-3rd-match-super-four-asia-cup-2018

 

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/8039/scorecard/1144504/india-vs-pakistan-22nd-match-icc-cricket-world-cup-2019

 

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/8368/scorecard/1204717/india-under-19s-vs-pakistan-under-19s-semi-final-icc-under-19-world-cup-2019-20

 

 

Edited October 27, 2020 by Austin 3:!6

[Suhaan]

8 minutes ago, cric_fan said:

 

Jal gai na

 

O na meri billo

[Suhaan]

7 minutes ago, cric_fan said:

Saini looks class

Disappointed with Nagorkati

And what’s up with Mavi’s action- the guy is literally looking up at the sky at the point of delivery.

Wasn’t that Khaleel guy supposed to be special?

Nagarkoti hasn't done anything to be disappointed

He wasn't bowled yesterday ,weird captaincy from KKR

Ok,when did you last see Nagarkoti before IPL?U19WC 2018?

So you expect big things from him when he just came back after a major injury which kept him out for 2 years,

I won't say you're harsh

Khaleel is a work in progress,has shown spark in patches not consistent,trying to refigure his action, isn't working hard 

Mavi is fine ,he too came back from major injury