Did the penny finally drop for Kohli?

[Jimmy Cliff]

 

 

No more "risk free" cricket? 

[Gollum]

Point

[Ankit_sharma03]

• Samson did that in Aus and found himself dropped due to low scores
• Dhawan n iyer are still in squad
• Kohli starts with right plan until he looses 1-2 games and panic. Remember he went for KL in middle in ODI before 2019 Wc 2-3 times but gave up in 1-3 every time. Now KL has owned middle order spot . U need to be stubborn like ganguly or dhoni with ur ideas

 

[zen]

Let's hope so ... Ind's top order in LOI tends to be among the most stats focused and boring to watch 

[Ankit_sharma03]

• Lets see how much Kohli n rohit change their approach
• And how many balls are given to hardik , he has been wasted in t20 mostly by leaving so little time for him

[Serpico]

6 minutes ago, zen said:

Let's hope so ... Ind's top order in LOI tends to be among the most stats focused and boring to watch 

It is mostly Dhawan that drags the top order down

 

Kohli confirmed that Rahul will open with Rohit tomorrow, so both openers striking 140+ is not bad

 

 

[Ankit_sharma03]

8 minutes ago, Serpico said:

Kohli confirmed that Rahul will open with Rohit tomorrow, so both openers striking 140+ is not bad

Rohit is great at covering up which is why someone like Rahul helps him unlike Dhawan also was a slow starter infact his covering skill is nowere close to Rohit.

[R!TTER]

Big words from motormouth, let's see what he eventually does in a KO 

[zen]

1 hour ago, Serpico said:

It is mostly Dhawan that drags the top order down

 

Kohli confirmed that Rahul will open with Rohit tomorrow, so both openers striking 140+ is not bad

 

 

 

You posted the overall stats, which accounts for arriving at a respectable SR after playing relatively slowly initially (which is what is being discussed): 

 

View overall figures

Opposition team Australia or England or India or New Zealand or Pakistan or South Africa or Sri Lanka or West Indies

Start of match date greater than or equal to 1 Jan 2016

Runs scored less than or equal to 20

Batting position between 1 and 3

Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 100

Ordered by batting strike rate (descending)

Overall figures

Player	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
DA Warner (AUS)	2016-2020	13	13	1	100	20	8.33	79	126.58	0	0	1	16	2
C Munro (NZ)	2016-2020	20	19	0	144	16	7.57	127	113.38	0	0	2	13	7
MD Gunathilaka (SL)	2016-2021	15	14	0	150	20	10.71	139	107.91	0	0	0	16	4
AD Hales (ENG)	2016-2019	12	12	0	109	20	9.08	102	106.86	0	0	1	10	5
KL Rahul (INDIA)	2017-2020	13	11	0	132	20	12.00	128	103.12	0	0	1	13	3
JJ Roy (ENG)	2016-2020	17	17	0	153	19	9.00	149	102.68	0	0	4	13	7
Sabbir Rahman (BDESH)	2016-2018	8	8	0	120	19	15.00	121	99.17	0	0	0	12	2
RG Sharma (INDIA)	2016-2020	31	30	1	232	17	8.00	243	95.47	0	0	4	28	7
Babar Azam (PAK)	2016-2021	13	12	1	105	19	9.54	110	95.45	0	0	1	13	0
Tamim Iqbal (BDESH/ICC/World)	2016-2018	15	15	0	139	18	9.26	146	95.20	0	0	2	15	2
Ahmed Shehzad (PAK)	2016-2019	10	10	0	101	19	10.10	107	94.39	0	0	0	11	2
AJ Finch (AUS)	2016-2021	18	18	0	116	17	6.44	125	92.80	0	0	5	15	0
TL Seifert (NZ)	2018-2021	16	15	0	152	19	10.13	164	92.68	0	0	0	18	4
RR Hendricks (SA)	2017-2021	13	13	0	119	19	9.15	131	90.83	0	0	1	14	2
Fakhar Zaman (PAK)	2017-2020	18	17	0	119	17	7.00	132	90.15	0	0	2	14	1
KS Williamson (NZ)	2016-2021	19	19	1	184	20	10.22	231	79.65	0	0	2	14	1
S Dhawan (INDIA)	2016-2020	22	20	1	113	15*	5.94	165	68.48	0	0	0	12	2

 

Rohit for e.g. got dismissed for 20 or less in 31 out of 51 innings (based on your timeline since 2016), going at less than run a ball ... Therefore on avg, the PP is underutilized by him 60% of the time. Dhawan's SR is even less but he did that in 20 of 43 innings, so 46% (therefore, making it up for slow starts more times than Rohit) ... However, if a high SR batsman is allowed to play similarly slowly initially, his SR after 20 runs could be even higher than these guys

Edited March 11, 2021 by zen

[The Realist]

1 hour ago, zen said:

Let's hope so ... Ind's top order in LOI tends to be among the most stats focused and boring to watch 

Yup. And follows same tired formula of bat slowly, keep wickets in hand and try to score big at death irrespective of pitch or match situation.

 

Been a proven failure as lack of trophies illustrates.

[Vijy]

captain saab needs to let his bat do the talking. just 1-2 losses, and we will go back to tuk-tuking. I wonder if our top order took secret lessons from misbah.

[GautiMaan]

15 hours ago, Vijy said:

captain saab needs to let his bat do the talking. just 1-2 losses, and we will go back to tuk-tuking. I wonder if our top order took secret lessons from misbah.

Didnt even wait for the losses.

 

Kohli's strategy:

 

1.Pick the senior most players in the XI

2.Pick his closest friends in the XI

3.Hope the team that is made up of the above succeeds

4.If not pass of some cliches as to why they failed.

5.If they keep failing throw some youngsters into the deep end

6.Hope youngsters fail

7.Repeat from Step 1

[Ankit_sharma03]

Dekhiye inki Kathani aur karni men bahut farq hai

[zen]

2nd lowest PP score for Ind ... I hope that these guys do NOT think that it is better to be 20/0 in PPs than 22/3

 

Also imp to play correct players for the strategy 

Edited March 12, 2021 by zen

[Ankit_sharma03]

 

[SRT100]

Kohli is a walking penis.

 

He is ruining Indian cricket.

[New guy]

Looks like he picked the penny up again 

[Serpico]

He says a lot of buzzwords that his pr algorithm has picked up from online cricket chat. He's like a trained actor in front of camera, he doesn't actually believe any of that

[puneet28]

1 hour ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

 

Ajay Jadeja was spot on there!

[Vijy]

On 3/12/2021 at 8:35 AM, GautiMaan said:

Didnt even wait for the losses.

 

Kohli's strategy:

 

1.Pick the senior most players in the XI

2.Pick his closest friends in the XI

3.Hope the team that is made up of the above succeeds

4.If not pass of some cliches as to why they failed.

5.If they keep failing throw some youngsters into the deep end

6.Hope youngsters fail

7.Repeat from Step 1

yep. so predictable and so disappointing. dhawan should be playing int'l cricket. he's good but we need to look beyond him. and rohit's a borderline case himself. obviously has fantastic record, but we should be prepping for future.