Jay Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 29 minutes ago, Global.Baba said: care to check Rohit’s performance in Wc 2019 in England. and no these weren’t typical 400 run English wickets either. No one in their right mind would pick Roy or Bairstow over Rohit in any conditions. On flat pitches you have a guy who can hit 200’s for fun and tricky surfaces has a lot more technique. Rohit......Warner.....Roy/Bairstow.....rest yea true. these dudes here love to overrate the great English hacks due to one fluke wc win. sorry 'draw'. GeeGaw 1 Link to comment
chewy Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 Well they won the World Cup, the ultimate price in eyes of millions of Indian fans. There legacy as most destructive opening pair is sealed, sealed with World Cup winners medal. WC2011INDIA, velu and adi B 3 Link to comment
Adamant Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 2 hours ago, sandeep said: Do you think the greatest car is the Ambassador? Why Sachin and Ganguly, and not Greenidge/Haynes then? Because Sachin is the greatest odi opener of all time and arguably the GOAT batsman, this tilts the balance in favour of ganguly-Sachin combo. Link to comment
Adamant Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, chewy said: Well they won the World Cup, the ultimate price in eyes of millions of Indian fans. There legacy as most destructive opening pair is sealed, sealed with World Cup winners medal. Are they the first set of openers who won a world cup? Lol Link to comment
chewy Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Adamant said: Are they the first set of openers who won a world cup? Lol Not sure which set of openers can rival their strike rate. Stop being a negative nancy Link to comment
Adamant Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Global.Baba said: care to check Rohit’s performance in Wc 2019 in England. and no these weren’t typical 400 run English wickets either. No one in their right mind would pick Roy or Bairstow over Rohit in any conditions. On flat pitches you have a guy who can hit 200’s for fun and tricky surfaces has a lot more technique. Rohit......Warner.....Roy/Bairstow.....rest Rohit is definitely ahead of the other openers in this era. Link to comment
Adamant Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 1 minute ago, chewy said: Not sure which set of openers can rival their strike rate. Stop being a negative nancy Not sure which set of openers were as bad as they are against swing/seam and spin. Stop overrating ftbs, they are very good but certainly not the best. GeeGaw 1 Link to comment
zen Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 Greenidge-Haynes opened a lot in in red ball cricket ... Proper openers ... Many of the guys on the list may not be opening in those circumstances Link to comment
sage Posted March 25, 2021 Author Share Posted March 25, 2021 2 hours ago, Global.Baba said: @sage rare letdown He is let down by his partner Global.Baba 1 Link to comment
GeeGaw Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 1 hour ago, chewy said: Well they won the World Cup, the ultimate price in eyes of millions of Indian fans. There legacy as most destructive opening pair is sealed, sealed with World Cup winners medal. What a stupid take. Following your lack of logic the next team to win a WC will have the greatest opening pair because reasons. That vaunted greatest batting attack of all time scored the exact same number of runs in the final as NZ. That doesn’t change the fact NZ batting was just a bit over bang average and not one of the greatest of all time. England tied that WC because their bowling way over performed its typical output. Link to comment
Majestic Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 (edited) Top 8 openers in ODIs of this era:- Rohit Sharma David Warner Jonny Bairstow Shikhar Dhawan Jason Roy Quinton de kock Martin Guptill Aaron Finch Thoko like ! Edited March 25, 2021 by Majestic Link to comment
GeeGaw Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 In 2019 Final (since apparently WC championship is only thing that matters to icf brain trust) Roy / Bairstow scored a whopping 53 runs. Guptill / Nicholls went for 74. Obviously Guptill / Nicholls are the greatest of all time. sage 1 Link to comment
zen Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, GeeGaw said: In 2019 Final (since apparently WC championship is only thing that matters to icf brain trust) Roy / Bairstow scored a whopping 53 runs. Guptill / Nicholls went for 74. Obviously Guptill / Nicholls are the greatest of all time. Chasing tricky scores in SF v Aus and F v NZ, I will take those runs from the openers Edited March 25, 2021 by zen wc2023 1 Link to comment
neel roy Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, sage said: 12 century stands in 42 innings so far puts them level with Sehwag and Tendulkar who did it in 93 innings absolutely crap. Bairstow and roy are kings of flat pitches. Most runs have come on flat odi decks of aus and England. Remember its because of these insanely flat pitches just before world cup 2019 we were wondering we would have teams making 400. Now consider sehwag tendulkar ganguly even for gambhir for that matter.. they played innings across the globe with one new ball and 5 fielders out from over no 15. It had reverse swing from over no 30..ganguly tendulkar sehwag played in Sharjah Colombo Dhaka pitches in windies pakistan kenya south africa aus eng.. played a hell lot of matches across different stadiums in india without lush outfields where ball used to get scuffed up.. pitches were not road like it was now.. hell the independence day dhaka finals were played under football floodlights.. and many of these matches even in India were day matches without dew.. also IPL had not come into the horizon.. bairstow roy maybe good but not better than hayden gilchrist ganguly sehwag and sachin.. Edited March 25, 2021 by neel roy Link to comment
putrevus Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 World cup should not be the only yard stick to measure greatness. Malcolm Marshall did not win world cup does it make him any lesser bowler.He is still considered the greatest fast bowler by many. mishra 1 Link to comment
chewy Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 3 hours ago, GeeGaw said: What a stupid take. Following your lack of logic the next team to win a WC will have the greatest opening pair because reasons. That vaunted greatest batting attack of all time scored the exact same number of runs in the final as NZ. That doesn’t change the fact NZ batting was just a bit over bang average and not one of the greatest of all time. England tied that WC because their bowling way over performed its typical output. Sour grapes...besides I said Bairstow and Roy are certainly most destructive in ODIs, given them flat tracks and they will blast 100 in 10 overs. Not many can match them Dont let logic smack your tiny brain on the way. Link to comment
SinNombre Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 England's WC win ranks amongst the worst in history, along with Pakistan 92. 3 defeats in the group stages and a draw in the final to win. Only the Pakistani in 92 won with such objectively bad overall performances. Laaloo, Tattieboy, GeeGaw and 1 other 1 2 1 Link to comment
Jay Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 54 minutes ago, SinNombre said: England's WC win ranks amongst the worst in history, along with Pakistan 92. 3 defeats in the group stages and a draw in the final to win. Only the Pakistani in 92 won with such objectively bad overall performances. Finally someone with actual cricket knowledge. Link to comment
Jay Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 (edited) Show me what you can do on Turner's and seaming wickets ya hacks then I will give you credit. Until then Edited March 26, 2021 by Jay Tattieboy 1 Link to comment
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