Singh bling Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 (edited) https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/global-hunger-index-ranks-india-at-101-out-of-116-countries/article36998777.ece Worse than Pakistan , Bangladesh , Nepal . But for icfers Pakistan is bhikhari, Bangladesh is begger while in their dreams india is competing with Switzerland. Edited October 14, 2021 by Singh bling speedheat, Lone Wolf and Iconoclast 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 https://www.business-standard.com/article/economy-policy/cabinet-okays-revamped-mid-day-meal-scheme-with-expanded-coverage-121092901211_1.html Quote The union cabinet on Wednesday approved a revamped and expanded version of the mid-day meal scheme called the National Scheme for Prime Minister Poshan (nutrition) with an allocation of Rs 1.3 trillion crore for five years starting from 2021-22 of which Centre's share will be nearly Rs 1 trillion, spread over the five years. In this Rs 1 trillion, around Rs 45,000 crore will be spent on providing subsidised foodgrains from the food ministry over the years. This leaves Rs 55,000 crore purely for the scheme, which is Rs 11,000 crore per year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariyam Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 (edited) Check out this website: https://www.globalhungerindex.org/india.html India had a GHI score of 37.4 in 2006, 28.8 in 2012 as against a 27.5 in 2021. Edited October 14, 2021 by Mariyam coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh bling Posted October 14, 2021 Author Share Posted October 14, 2021 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Mariyam said: Check out this website: https://www.globalhungerindex.org/india.html India had a GHI score of 37.4 in 2006, 28.8 in 2012 as against a 27.5 in 2021. So GH score improved massively in UPA but then it improved very little Just look at Pakistan https://www.globalhungerindex.org/pakistan.html 32.1 in 2012 to 24.2 in 2021. In other words terrorism infested Pakistan did much better in same period. Har cheez mein Pakistan se compare karte hain yahan kya ho gaya? Here is BD https://www.globalhungerindex.org/bangladesh.html GH score improved very little during 2006-12 but massively after. So. Most neighbours of India did well after 2012 Edited October 14, 2021 by Singh bling Iconoclast and Chakdephatte 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariyam Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 @Singh bling Forget Pakistan. Those comparisons are for brownie points in internet discussions. Eventually, we have to better the lot of our own people. Food security is a basic step in that direction. The fact is that we are a mainly food surplus country. We are also a nation that has some of the highest (in tonnage) numbers when it comes to food pilferage/damaged in storage etc. That means our distribution network and allocation is in a poor shape. Needed fixing for a long time and ideally we shouldn't need a global index for a reality check. sandeep 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedheat Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 A wise man once said "na khaunga na khane doonga" raki05, Lone Wolf, Singh bling and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, speedheat said: A wise man once said "na khaunga na khane doonga" Gandhi ji said. Na piyoonga na peene doongAa Mariyam, raki05 and speedheat 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trichromatic Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 50 minutes ago, Singh bling said: So GH score improved massively in UPA but then it improved very little Just look at Pakistan https://www.globalhungerindex.org/pakistan.html 32.1 in 2012 to 24.2 in 2021. In other words terrorism infested Pakistan did much better in same period. Har cheez mein Pakistan se compare karte hain yahan kya ho gaya? Here is BD https://www.globalhungerindex.org/bangladesh.html GH score improved very little during 2006-12 but massively after. So. Most neighbours of India did well after 2012 https://www.globalhungerindex.org/case-studies/2016-india.html Quote India still faces a long road ahead in its quest to achieve Zero Hunger. Over 25 years since India ushered in its economic reforms, the country’s economy has undergone significant structural transformations, encouraging planners to turn their focus away from agriculture and instead towards the service and manufacturing sectors. The priority now is to return attention to agriculture and its central role of providing food security, reducing poverty and generating employment. Turning one’s back on agriculture, particularly in a time when the climate is changing considerably, will put the food security of the 1.25 billion people living in India in jeopardy. The Government has recently set an ambitious target to double the income of farmers by 2022 (The Economic Times 2016). This corresponds to targeted annual agricultural growth of more than 14% per year. More needs to be done to enhance the role that agriculture can play in improving nutrition outcomes, for example via the implementation of cross-sector policies and programmes at national and sub-national levels. Efforts must also be made to ensure that small-scale, marginal and landless farmers are the true beneficiaries of these policies, as too many people are being left behind in India’s efforts to reach Zero Hunger. This goal can only be achieved when the people who are most excluded are placed at the centre of all action and thinking. https://www.indiancricketfans.com/topic/121804-discussion-on-farmers-issues-in-india/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangeelaraja Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Overall India has massive food surplus. The amount of food that gets spoiled sitting in warehouses is enough to eliminate hunger. https://indianexpress.com/article/opinion/columns/food-waste-index-report-india-coronavirus-hunder-index-7261909/ Quote Nearly 40 per cent of the food produced in India is wasted every year due to fragmented food systems and inefficient supply chains — a figure estimated by the Food and Agricultural Organisation (FAO). This is the loss that occurs even before the food reaches the consumer. Having high speed roads, rails, and good storage systems can address most of this problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh bling Posted October 14, 2021 Author Share Posted October 14, 2021 1 hour ago, rangeelaraja said: Overall India has massive food surplus. The amount of food that gets spoiled sitting in warehouses is enough to eliminate hunger Wheat and rice cannot eliminate hunger. India needs to improve food standard of its people . White rice if eaten without dal egg meat fish is nothing but pure carbs . Extremely dangerous for health. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, Singh bling said: Wheat and rice cannot eliminate hunger. India needs to improve food standard of its people . White rice if eaten without dal egg meat fish is nothing but pure carbs . Extremely dangerous for health. Aur ugao staple daane MSP ki laalach mein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangeelaraja Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, Singh bling said: Wheat and rice cannot eliminate hunger. India needs to improve food standard of its people . White rice if eaten without dal egg meat fish is nothing but pure carbs . Extremely dangerous for health. who said the surplus is only wheat and rice ? Pulses, fruits, vegetables all are in surplus from the farm and a significant of them go bad especially fruits and vegetables. The level of waste is criminal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh bling Posted October 14, 2021 Author Share Posted October 14, 2021 3 hours ago, rangeelaraja said: who said the surplus is only wheat and rice ? Pulses, fruits, vegetables all are in surplus from the farm and a significant of them go bad especially fruits and vegetables. The level of waste is criminal. You should check price of fruits. Hardly any sell below 80 rupees . Pulses too 120 -200 . Vegetables some cheap but many costly. Also unlike Foreigners most non vegetarian indians eat very oily tasty meat or eggs . So very difficult for poor indian to eat tasty nutritious diet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh bling Posted October 14, 2021 Author Share Posted October 14, 2021 3 hours ago, coffee_rules said: Aur ugao staple daane MSP ki laalach mein Goverments ki galti jinhone vote ke lalach mein sasta chawal diya.jo log bajra aur jowar bhee khaate thhee unhone ne bhee chawal shuru kar diya. Ab farmer to wohi ugaayega naa jis cheez kaa achcha rate milega Under_Score 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangeelaraja Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 16 minutes ago, Singh bling said: You should check price of fruits. Hardly any sell below 80 rupees . Pulses too 120 -200 . Vegetables some cheap but many costly. Also unlike Foreigners most non vegetarian indians eat very oily tasty meat or eggs . So very difficult for poor indian to eat tasty nutritious diet Below 80 for what qty ? https://rates.goldenchennai.com/fruit-price/mumbai-fruit-price-today/ These are today's retail prices per KG in Mumbai - which is the most expensive metropolis. Most fruits are very reasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangeelaraja Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Check out the retail vegetable prices - it's very very reasonable. https://rates.goldenchennai.com/vegetable-price/mumbai-vegetable-price-today/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trichromatic Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Unfortunately this will never be a hot topic among RW. Mariyam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 https://www.livemint.com/news/india/shocking-methodology-used-is-unscientific-india-s-response-to-global-hunger-index-2021-11634302037175.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 7 hours ago, Trichromatic said: Unfortunately this will never be a hot topic among RW. I have read about how this index is calculated in last few days once it was reported by all India media outlets as big news in the election year. If you have any authentic links of data collection. please share. - We all know how China shares data during Covid times, it being ranked in top 5 over other developed countries like USA or Switzerland or Germany seems dubious. - Do they rely on ground data collected by themselves or reported data by the respective governments. I doubt China will let them collect any ground data without any transparency This from Wiki: ======================== The GHI combines 4 component indicators: [GHI2016 1] the proportion of the undernourished as a percentage of the population; => estimation , projection with extrapolation the proportion of children under the age of five suffering from wasting, a sign of acute undernutrition; => estimation and projection with extrapolation the proportion of children under the age of five suffering from stunting, a sign of chronic undernutrition; and => estimation and projection with extrapolation the mortality rate of children under the age of five. => reported by countries In 2020, data were assessed for the 132 countries that met the criteria for inclusion in the GHI, and GHI scores were calculated for 107 of those countries based on data from 2015 to 2019. Data to calculate GHI scores come from published United Nations sources (Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations,[19] World Health Organization, UNICEF, and Inter-agency Group for Child Mortality Estimation[20]), the World Bank, and Demographic and Health Surveys. Of the 132 countries assessed, 25 did not have sufficient data to allow for the calculation of a 2020 GHI score, but provisional designations of the severity of hunger were assigned to 18 of those countries based on other known data. For the remaining 7 countries, data were insufficient to allow for either calculating GHI scores or assigning provisional categories. ================== So, a lot of it is estimation, projection and extrapolation based on a few surveys. With a country of huge population like India, this data can be projected unscientifically. Just like WHO, UN agencies are used by many foundations to set the narrative. Please share any methodology used, so we can look at it and either do rona dhona or junk it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariyam Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 @coffee_rules Was the methodology any different when India scored a 37.4 in 2006 against a mere 27.5 now? Was it not based on estimation, extrapolation, projection etc etc then? Or is the 'oh they have a pre-set narrative' only a convenient tag to use when the output is not to your liking? They have explained their methodology quite clearly here, with assumptions in their addendums. The very first line says that the research is peer reviewed. I find it odd that no other nation has found flaws in the method. Or if they have, they've either kept mum ignoring the result or accepted the findings. Our government on the other hand is hell bent on telling the world we maybe bad but not that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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