Gary Kirsten in "top" contention to be Pak's full time head coach

[rangeelaraja]

Being a mere consultant on tour like Haydos is okay, you don't have to step on shores where your life is always in danger as a foreigner.

 

Would be extremely surprised if Kirsten agrees to this role.

 

 

[Lord]

Didn't he refuse India job as he didn't want to stay in India?

[Adi_91]

Just now, Lord said:

Didn't he refuse India job as he didn't want to stay in India?

 

He did citing time away from family. I guess he is okay now with that.

[figo6762]

How can PCB afford these guys ? 

[First class]

2 hours ago, Lord said:

Didn't he refuse India job as he didn't want to stay in India?

He likes Lahori food better than south Indian food, just a thought . 

[Lord]

7 minutes ago, First class said:

He likes Lahori food better than south Indian food, just a thought . 

 

South Indian food won't kill him though

[Adi_91]

7 minutes ago, Aiden said:

Money problem solved after blank check

 

Chinese money?

[rangeelaraja]

3 hours ago, Lord said:

Didn't he refuse India job as he didn't want to stay in India?

 

 

He won a 50 over WC as India coach. That is a benchmark.  Any long term full time coaching assignment would be judged against THAT benchmark.

 

A WC win doesn't come easy unless you are an all time great time comfortably above the rest. 

 

So it could have been an excuse.  It is easier to show "success" and results as coach of a weaker team that has not won anything.

 

 

[putrevus]

What is so great about Gary Kirsten as a coach. I would take Shastri and Bharat Arun over him anyday.

Edited October 30, 2021 by putrevus

[rangeelaraja]

43 minutes ago, putrevus said:

What is so great about Gary Kirtan as a coach. I would take Shastri and Bharat Arun over him anyday.

 

 

For sure. I am certain Dravid too will make a far better coach than Kirsten.

 

 

 

 

[Adi_91]

1 hour ago, putrevus said:

What is so great about Gary Kirtan as a coach. I would take Shastri and Bharat Arun over him anyday.

 

They think he won Ind a WC, so it works like that. If only it was the case, then SRH would have been champions too. 

[diga]

3 hours ago, rangeelaraja said:

 

 

He won a 50 over WC as India coach. That is a benchmark.  Any long term full time coaching assignment would be judged against THAT benchmark.

 

A WC win doesn't come easy unless you are an all time great time comfortably above the rest. 

 

So it could have been an excuse.  It is easier to show "success" and results as coach of a weaker team that has not won anything.

 

 

For neighbours, beating India with Lolhi as captain in T20 is a benchmark

[Number]

One good thing about his tenure was he was a hard task master. Gambhir told he used to make even Munaf Patel, Ashish Nehra bat for half an hour in nets and it was evident that our tailenders used to contribute more in those days unlike today when they are walking wickets.

The coaches that followed him were mere yes men to the superstar captains.

That said he had a very strong odi line up. 9 players has their fixed slots in the 11, leaving very little choices to make for captain and coach.

[ash]

Good for them. Congrats. 

[Mariyam]

14 hours ago, putrevus said:

What is so great about Gary Kirtan as a coach. I would take Shastri and Bharat Arun over him anyday.

What is that?

 

An incantation for a foreign coach?

[putrevus]

16 hours ago, Adi_91 said:

 

They think he won Ind a WC, so it works like that. If only it was the case, then SRH would have been champions too. 

So what , it was played at home and India had a very powerful batting lineup at his disposal.Winning a worldcup does not make him a great coach. I don't think he did anything to change the way Indian team plays and competes. 

 

Shastri surely did that,he has made this team compete everywhere with far less batting talent.Did they win any world tournament no, but it needs some luck too.

[Khota]

21 hours ago, Aiden said:

Money problem solved after blank check

Check is still blank.

[Khota]

35 minutes ago, putrevus said:

So what , it was played at home and India had a very powerful batting lineup at his disposal.Winning a worldcup does not make him a great coach. I don't think he did anything to change the way Indian team plays and competes. 

 

Shastri surely did that,he has made this team compete everywhere with far less batting talent.Did they win any world tournament no, but it needs some luck too.

Shastri is NOT a coach.

[putrevus]

Just now, Khota said:

Shastri is NOT a coach.

What is he then?

[Lord]

38 minutes ago, putrevus said:

So what , it was played at home and India had a very powerful batting lineup at his disposal.Winning a worldcup does not make him a great coach. I don't think he did anything to change the way Indian team plays and competes. 

 

Shastri surely did that,he has made this team compete everywhere with far less batting talent.Did they win any world tournament no, but it needs some luck too.

 

We are competing everywhere due to bowling  for which Bharat Arun deserves credit. Batting we still get 36 all out and don't dominate even at home.

 

Winning WC is always biggest thing. And no one had won at home before that.