Stop bilateral series

[Singh bling]

Earlier there  were tri nation cups in ODI's which from past  7-8 years had been stopped. These tournaments were replaced with meaningless odi ,T20 bilateral series . Aus and England send their b or c grade teams while India takes them very seriously. Result indians feel they are superior . Bilateral series should be replaced by tri nation tournaments . Atleast their finals still have some pressure situation.

[vayuu1]

Trilaterals or quadlaterals are the way to go,

For instance aus ind eng nz quad series loi or t20 will be a mouth watering contest, tri series say sa ind sl will also be good

[badmash]

But then what’s a T20 tri-nation series without the number 1 T20 team : Pakistan ? 

[ShoonyaSifar]

Why not treat them as bilaterals and try out new players and new tactics. Use them to develop squad depth, not to pander to the ego of megalomaniac captains.

[Singh bling]

4 minutes ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

Why not treat them as bilaterals and try out new players and new tactics. Use them to develop squad depth, not to pander to the ego of megalomaniac captains.

Then when will main team play as unit?

[Singh bling]

9 minutes ago, badmash said:

But then what’s a T20 tri-nation series without the number 1 T20 team : Pakistan ? 

Stupid logic. Did Australia was part of each and every tri nation odi tournament in 2000-10 when they were invincibles?

[ShoonyaSifar]

Just now, Singh bling said:

Then when will main team play as unit?

In Test matches.

 

All other teams experiment in bilateral LOIs, we have had our captain keep the same team and same tactics even for dead rubbers. I doubt if he's missed any LOIs since the 2019 WC (except SL seres which overlapped with Eng tests)

[Lone Wolf]

14 minutes ago, badmash said:

But then what’s a T20 tri-nation series without the number 1 T20 team : Pakistan ? 

You played a tri series with Zimbabwe last

[Singh bling]

13 minutes ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

In Test matches.

 

All other teams experiment in bilateral LOIs, we have had our captain keep the same team and same tactics even for dead rubbers. I doubt if he's missed any LOIs since the 2019 WC (except SL seres which overlapped with Eng tests)

Asian teams hardly experiment because they have dedicated fan base which will get emotional if india loses 3-0 , 5-0 in bilateral series. Non Asian team fans hardly care about bilateral series so they can experiment and loose.

[Suhaan]

48 minutes ago, Singh bling said:

Earlier there  were tri nation cups in ODI's which from past  7-8 years had been stopped. These tournaments were replaced with meaningless odi ,T20 bilateral series . Aus and England send their b or c grade teams while India takes them very seriously. Result indians feel they are superior . Bilateral series should be replaced by tri nation tournaments . Atleast their finals still have some pressure situation.

Aus,Eng play their b ,c sides against other sides but not India 1-2 seldom or forced changes dont make them b sides,i don't know what you are talking about

Thing is bilaterals are no pressure games best time and.place to try newcomers or your bench strength on international platforms over the time they get mature,and play your shortlisted best candidates in most games in build up to the main tournament

[Khota]

Clearing the bench is a concept desis are not used to.

[New guy]

8 hours ago, badmash said:

But then what’s a T20 tri-nation series without the number 1 T20 team : Pakistan ? 

You know, while growing up, in my neighborhood, when no one wanted to play with or visit the home of the creepy, violent kid who broke into their neighbors house and kept bad company, it was his own goddamn fault. No one cared if he was good at games 

Edited November 8, 2021 by New guy

[express bowling]

9 hours ago, badmash said:

But then what’s a T20 tri-nation series without the number 1 T20 team : Pakistan ? 

 

 

No.1 ranked T20 team is England

[SK_IH]

Thats a lifeline for someone like Kohli, meaningless records, greatest chaser, revenge against Kesrick Williams blah blah everything has been achieved via these bilateral series. If you remove bilateral series, Loli will be reduced to a middling cricketer

I say don't stop bilateral series but utilize those series to play different brand of cricket. Losses should not matter 

[SRT100]

1 minute ago, SK_IH said:

Thats a lifeline for someone like Kohli, meaningless records, greatest chaser, revenge against Kesrick Williams blah blah everything has been achieved via these bilateral series. If you remove bilateral series, Loli will be reduced to a middling cricketer

I say don't stop bilateral series but utilize those series to play different brand of cricket. Losses should not matter 

 

I would like to see different metrics applied in ascertaining success in these series.

 

Like high SR, wickets taken in the powerplay, batsmen given plenty of opportunities to not only cement a place but feel comfortable and safe in the team.

 

 

[SK_IH]

1 minute ago, SRT100 said:

 

I would like to see different metrics applied in ascertaining success in these series.

 

Like high SR, wickets taken in the powerplay, batsmen given plenty of opportunities to not only cement a place but feel comfortable and safe in the team.

 

 

Yes aren't we sick & tired of watching top 3 routinely play out 40 overs in these meaningless series to pile up records & then surrender meekly when it matters

[raki05]

To play aggressive brand of cricket in T20 or ODIs. You need xi sehwag. Even though some of Indian players can play aggressive but still they take safety first approach. Prime example is Rahul he has fastest 50 in T20 ipl. We need coach like B-Mac who change mentality of players, selfish cricketers who does stats padding in biletral should be thrown away.

[SRT100]

Bilateral series should be played, just with the condition that senior players always rested.

 

With the end of this era, I highly doubt there will be any senior players bar KL in the team.

[SRT100]

36 minutes ago, raki05 said:

To play aggressive brand of cricket in T20 or ODIs. You need xi sehwag. Even though some of Indian players can play aggressive but still they take safety first approach. Prime example is Rahul he has fastest 50 in T20 ipl. We need coach like B-Mac who change mentality of players, selfish cricketers who does stats padding in biletral should be thrown away.

 

Players need to fear more a SR of around 100 more so than getting out.

 

Im tired of stat padding.

 

As an example, India have yet to prove to me they are out of their slump having lost badly to Pakistan and NZ.

 

I never have recognized minnow bashing nor our achievements. Even if we score 300+ against Namibia the game is meaningless.

[nevada]

4 hours ago, SK_IH said:

Thats a lifeline for someone like Kohli, meaningless records, greatest chaser, revenge against Kesrick Williams blah blah everything has been achieved via these bilateral series. If you remove bilateral series, Loli will be reduced to a middling cricketer

I say don't stop bilateral series but utilize those series to play different brand of cricket. Losses should not matter 

He used to skip bilaterals and even the Asia cup. But after the disaster in WC2019, he became insecure that Rohit leading us to wins would threaten his own position and started playing every single match of every bilateral. End result, he is burnt out and washed up. His insecurity and greed finished him off.