Dery Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 Give your opinions Cricspin 1 Link to comment
Dery Posted November 19, 2021 Author Share Posted November 19, 2021 Expect Aus WT20 to be foregone conclusion if he does Link to comment
express bowling Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 There should be an option " We will.have to wait and see " That would have been my choice. Mosher, zaqw222222, Sgattick10 and 3 others 6 Link to comment
diga Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 Munaf Patel, VRV Singh, Sreesanth all debuted under Dravid... call them trundlers if you want Lord 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 (edited) Pacers selected under Coach Dravid so far 1st ODI in SL Bhuvi ... Medium Chahar ... Medium Hardik ... Medium Fast this year 2nd ODI in SL Bhuvi ... Medium Chahar ... Medium Hardik ... Medium Fast this year 3rd ODI in SL Sakaria ... Medium Saini ... Fast Hardik ... Medium Fast in 2021 1st T20I in SL Bhuvi ... Medium Chahar ... Medium Hardik ... Medium Fast this year 2nd T20I and 3rd T20I Playing 11 could not be selected wilfully because of Covid in the squad. 1st T20 vs NZ Bhuvi ... Medium Chahar ... Medium Siraj ... Fast in LOIs Observations .... 1. During our SL tour, most of our premier fast bowlers were in England and Dravid did not have access to them. 2. But Saini was not the first choice despite all all trundler attacks in the first 2 ODIs and 1st T20I in SL. 3. Avesh was benched in the 1st T20I vs NZ. It must also be said that he is still uncapped and not a tearaway quick either, but tall Fast-medium. Conclusion ... We will know Dravid's tendency when he has full access to the frontline fast bowlers. Edited November 19, 2021 by express bowling Cricspin, AuxiliA, Vijy and 3 others 6 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 Is Saini still fast? I thought he has regressed big time. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 Are we talking about tearaway fast bowlers? We don't have any . Only guy i can think of is uncapped Umran. OThers are fast. Cricspin 1 Link to comment
speedheat Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 Absolutely. raki05 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 1 hour ago, vvvslaxman said: Is Saini still fast? I thought he has regressed big time. He is still fast ... but not bowling express like in 2018 to mid 2020. Mosher, Austin 3:!6 and raki05 1 2 Link to comment
Suhaan Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 11 minutes ago, express bowling said: He is still fast ... but not bowling express like in 2018 to mid 2020. He didn't look fit in SL I barely watched IPL this season,so not sure about his fitness there?Looks to be hiding niggles,is he still unfit? Mosher, express bowling and raki05 3 Link to comment
Mesky99 Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 2 hours ago, diga said: Munaf Patel, VRV Singh, Sreesanth all debuted under Dravid... call them trundlers if you want Infact under dravid sreesanth and munaf bounced out Lara and co. We were shaping up well in the pace front with a reassured Zak, sreesanth, rp and a young ishant, dhoni took over Praveen Kumar started leading the odi attack, bhaji became defensive and nehra was brought back in. Link to comment
Mesky99 Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 2 hours ago, express bowling said: Pacers selected under Coach Dravid so far 1st ODI in SL Bhuvi ... Medium Chahar ... Medium Hardik ... Medium Fast this year 2nd ODI in SL Bhuvi ... Medium Chahar ... Medium Hardik ... Medium Fast this year 3rd ODI in SL Sakaria ... Medium Saini ... Fast Hardik ... Medium Fast in 2021 1st T20I in SL Bhuvi ... Medium Chahar ... Medium Hardik ... Medium Fast this year 2nd T20I and 3rd T20I Playing 11 could not be selected wilfully because of Covid in the squad. 1st T20 vs NZ Bhuvi ... Medium Chahar ... Medium Siraj ... Fast in LOIs Observations .... 1. During our SL tour, most of our premier fast bowlers were in England and Dravid did not have access to them. 2. But Saini was not the first choice despite all all trundler attacks in the first 2 ODIs and 1st T20I in SL. 3. Avesh was benched in the 1st T20I vs NZ. It must also be said that he is still uncapped and not a tearaway quick either, but tall Fast-medium. Conclusion ... We will know Dravid's tendency when he has full access to the frontline fast bowlers. Dravid who previously has worked with the A and u19 teams should have a bigger say in selection, I agree dravid shouldn't be blamed for the sl series, selectors did not do much homework and randomly congregated pacers and picked a team on the basis of 3 decent 4 over spells by the likes of sakariya, arshdeep and warrier. Until warrier, porel, unadkat carry on getting picked for the A team i wouldn't be surprised if they get picked for internationals, last A tour to NZ warrier, porel and Vijay Shankar played, it's only due to virat and injuries prasidh was picked for the odi's against eng, he wasn't even a regular in the A team, tyagi to I don't think is in the selectors radar, hasn't made his domestic debut yet. Link to comment
Sean Bradley Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 I see allot of Trundler threads on ICF. I don't see any tearaway fast bowler apart from the Kashmiri guy who played just one season of IPL. After that our next quickest bowlers are Bumrah and Yadav who are already part of the setup. So what's this fuss about pace ? All your IPL performers are grade A Trundlers like Harshal & Arshdeep? So what's the big deal ? In the words of the great crime master gogo, "Yeh Trundler Trundler kya hai ? Yeh Trundler Trundler?" Vijy, Lord, raki05 and 1 other 1 2 1 Link to comment
MechEng Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 Dravid bringing back trundlers and Tim Paine stepping down... Now Australia will thrash us so bad the next time we tour... Link to comment
diga Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 41 minutes ago, Sean Bradley said: I see allot of Trundler threads on ICF. Isnt the OP a Baki? What purpose does it serve by pulling down our coach even before he completes his first series? Link to comment
Lord Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 Too early to judge express bowling 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 2 hours ago, Suhaan said: He didn't look fit in SL I barely watched IPL this season,so not sure about his fitness there?Looks to be hiding niggles,is he still unfit? Saini has had small niggles right from end of IPL 2020 to end of IPL 2021. Lord and Mosher 2 Link to comment
express bowling Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Sean Bradley said: I see allot of Trundler threads on ICF. I don't see any tearaway fast bowler apart from the Kashmiri guy who played just one season of IPL. After that our next quickest bowlers are Bumrah and Yadav who are already part of the setup. So what's this fuss about pace ? All your IPL performers are grade A Trundlers like Harshal & Arshdeep? So what's the big deal ? In the words of the great crime master gogo, "Yeh Trundler Trundler kya hai ? Yeh Trundler Trundler?" Among prominent pacers .... Express .... .. Umran .. Saini from 2018 to 2020, may pick up speed again Fast .... .. Bumrah .. Umesh ( was express till 2017 ) .. Siraj in white ball cricket and some tests in Asia .. Prasidh .. Shami till 2020, may pick up speed again .. Tyagi has the potential .. Nagarkoti .. Aaron ( was express till 2017 ) .. Nathu ( not playing this year ) Fast-medium .... .. Shami in 2021 .. Siraj in tests outside Asia .. Avesh .. Ishant till 2020 .. Mavi ( he was fast in 2018 and 2019 ) .. Khaleel .. Kuldeep Sen .. Deshpande .. Thampi .. Sangwan .. Yarra Prithviraj Medium pacers .... .. Bhuvi .. D.Chahar .. Shardul ( was Fast-Medium till early 2020 ) .. Ishant in 2021 .. Harshal .. Natarajan .. Unadkat .. Porel .. Arshdeep .. Sakaria .. Nagaswalla ( probably ) .. Warrier ( was Fast medium till 2019 ) Edited November 19, 2021 by express bowling Vk1, AuxiliA and Mosher 3 Link to comment
express bowling Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, Mesky99 said: Dravid who previously has worked with the A and u19 teams should have a bigger say in selection, I agree dravid shouldn't be blamed for the sl series, selectors did not do much homework and randomly congregated pacers and picked a team on the basis of 3 decent 4 over spells by the likes of sakariya, arshdeep and warrier. Until warrier, porel, unadkat carry on getting picked for the A team i wouldn't be surprised if they get picked for internationals, last A tour to NZ warrier, porel and Vijay Shankar played, it's only due to virat and injuries prasidh was picked for the odi's against eng, he wasn't even a regular in the A team, tyagi to I don't think is in the selectors radar, hasn't made his domestic debut yet. Porel, Nagaswala and Warrier have blocked important spots in A teams. I will be very surprised if they become sub-26 averaging pacers in any format. The biggest impediment to building a top fast bowling attack are trundlers who perform in domestics and fail later on. P.S .. I want to see Nagaswalla in an actual match before forming a definitive opinion. Till now I have watched only a few videos. Edited November 19, 2021 by express bowling Mosher 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Mesky99 said: Dravid who previously has worked with the A and u19 teams should have a bigger say in selection, I agree dravid shouldn't be blamed for the sl series, selectors did not do much homework and randomly congregated pacers and picked a team on the basis of 3 decent 4 over spells by the likes of sakariya, arshdeep and warrier. Until warrier, porel, unadkat carry on getting picked for the A team i wouldn't be surprised if they get picked for internationals, last A tour to NZ warrier, porel and Vijay Shankar played, it's only due to virat and injuries prasidh was picked for the odi's against eng, he wasn't even a regular in the A team, tyagi to I don't think is in the selectors radar, hasn't made his domestic debut yet. Kartik made his domestic debut when was 16-17. Link to comment
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