zen Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 (edited) A stats padding batting model that works mostly in 150-170 games: First 9 balls, 9 runs (understandable) Next 10 balls, 11 runs (advantage other team) Next 10 balls, 13 runs (advantage other team, many lower order batsmen achieve this SR in first 10 balls) Next 10 balls, 16 runs (almost 29 balls gone to play at 150+ SR) Last 10 balls, 21 runs (You could expect someone to play at this SR after playing so many balls or get out) Overall, 70 off 49 balls in best case scenario, SR 142 (49 balls taken to achieve a SR of 142; this also means only 71 balls for the rest of the team) … If there is a choice, better to spread those 49 balls b/w two players, who can hit a higher SR earlier Aus can play S Smith regularly (who can be consistent too if there is no SR pressure), Eng can play Root and Malan together, etc, to play this kind of cricket, but they don’t. Edited November 7, 2022 by zen nevada, Nash and Under_Score 3 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 He was even better than now. He is doing okay now. Better than others. But still not as good as himself few years back. Link to comment
zen Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 (edited) Md Yousuf used to play like this too a long time ago in ODIs … Get to his 50 first, then look to play shots Edited November 7, 2022 by zen Link to comment
putrevus Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 When we have moronic Pandya batting at 100 SR and Karthik at 63 SR. , Kohli is million times upgrade over a bozos like them. They need to find a replacement for Pandya and Karthik before they have to worry about Kohli. coffee_rules, Lord, Nash and 3 others 1 5 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 7, 2022 Author Share Posted November 7, 2022 10 hours ago, vvvslaxman said: He was even better than now. He is doing okay now. Better than others. But still not as good as himself few years back. yet he ended up playing the best innings of his life in this format which is far difficult coming back from a slump not only he ended up turning his worst year to near his best one Link to comment
Adamant Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 12 minutes ago, zen said: A stats padding batting model that works mostly in 150-170 games: First 9 balls, 9 runs (understandable) Next 10 balls, 11 runs (advantage other team) Next 10 balls, 13 runs (advantage other team, many lower order batsmen achieve this SR in first 10 balls) Next 10 balls, 16 runs (almost 29 balls gone to play at 150+ SR) Last 10 balls, 21 runs (You could expect someone to play at this SR after playing so many balls or get out) Overall, 70 off 49 balls in best case scenario, SR 142 (49 balls taken to achieve a SR of 142) … If there is a choice, better to spread those 49 balls b/w two players, who can hit a higher SR earlier Aus can play S Smith regularly (who can be consistent too if there is no SR pressure), Eng can play Root and Malan together, etc, to play this kind of cricket, but they don’t. Please stop watching cricket, you are embarrassing yourselves. Kohli has won two MOTM in this world cup and two MOTT in t20 wcs. You were kissing His feet the day he kicked Pakistan, now that your do kaudi ka Pandya has failed to show anything you come back with your idiotic propaganda. As for Root and Smith, go check their str rates and avgs before posting. Also remember, you wanted Hooda in place of Kohli . This is a desperate attempt to make yourself look better. Bigg Brother, Nash and Lord 1 1 1 Link to comment
Dil Dil India Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 30 minutes ago, zen said: Md Yousuf used to play like this too a long time ago in ODIs … Get to his 50 first, then look to play shots Lol you have an agenda clearly. If Kohli wanted to play for his 50 he would get one every game like Zimbabar. Link to comment
zen Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 I took the trouble to see Kohli's innings in the group games: Runs Mins BF 4s 6s SR Pos Dismissal Inns Opposition Ground Start Date 82* 98 53 6 4 154.71 3 not out 2 v Pakistan Melbourne 23 Oct 2022 62* 79 44 3 2 140.90 3 not out 1 v Netherlands Sydney 27 Oct 2022 12 13 11 2 0 109.09 3 caught 1 v South Africa Perth 30 Oct 2022 64* 84 44 8 1 145.45 3 not out 1 v Bangladesh Adelaide 2 Nov 2022 26 36 25 2 0 104.00 3 caught 1 v Zimbabwe Melbourne 6 Nov 2022 Only done well against Asian teams and an associate ... 12 off 13 v SA can be ignored as there is still time for other batsmen ... Wasted 25 balls v Zim, where Ind had to rely on an exceptional p'ship later on driven by SKY Unless ppl want to turn India to (the usually laughable) RCB, need to move away from such an approach! nevada 1 Link to comment
zen Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Dil Dil India said: Lol you have an agenda clearly. If Kohli wanted to play for his 50 he would get one every game like Zimbabar. I have a dislike for stats padders in general (there can be an exception here and there) who eventually line up to play in the top 3 In T20s, ppl don't play for 50s but like 20-30s (the point is that this kind build up is more ODI like. MoYo had a terrific few years with the bat in ODIs iirc) ... I don't care about Babar, he can stats pad as much as he likes for Pak. Kohli can do all that for RCB and get the orange cap (I am more concerned with the cup not the cap). Edited November 8, 2022 by zen Link to comment
coffee_rules Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 12 minutes ago, zen said: I took the trouble to see Kohli's innings in the group games: Runs Mins BF 4s 6s SR Pos Dismissal Inns Opposition Ground Start Date 82* 98 53 6 4 154.71 3 not out 2 v Pakistan Melbourne 23 Oct 2022 62* 79 44 3 2 140.90 3 not out 1 v Netherlands Sydney 27 Oct 2022 12 13 11 2 0 109.09 3 caught 1 v South Africa Perth 30 Oct 2022 64* 84 44 8 1 145.45 3 not out 1 v Bangladesh Adelaide 2 Nov 2022 26 36 25 2 0 104.00 3 caught 1 v Zimbabwe Melbourne 6 Nov 2022 Only done well against Asian teams and an associate ... 12 off 13 v SA can be ignored as there is still time for other batsmen ... Wasted 25 balls v Zim, where Ind had to rely on an exceptional p'ship later on driven by SKY Unless ppl want to turn India to (the usually laughable) RCB, need to move away from such an approach! Only one non-Asian non-associate team where all batsmen failed at Perth! Lol! Link to comment
zen Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Just now, coffee_rules said: Only one non-Asian non-associate team where all batsmen failed at Perth! Lol! Read what is written. It is self explanatory. Link to comment
Dil Dil India Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 17 minutes ago, zen said: I took the trouble to see Kohli's innings in the group games: Runs Mins BF 4s 6s SR Pos Dismissal Inns Opposition Ground Start Date 82* 98 53 6 4 154.71 3 not out 2 v Pakistan Melbourne 23 Oct 2022 62* 79 44 3 2 140.90 3 not out 1 v Netherlands Sydney 27 Oct 2022 12 13 11 2 0 109.09 3 caught 1 v South Africa Perth 30 Oct 2022 64* 84 44 8 1 145.45 3 not out 1 v Bangladesh Adelaide 2 Nov 2022 26 36 25 2 0 104.00 3 caught 1 v Zimbabwe Melbourne 6 Nov 2022 Only done well against Asian teams and an associate ... 12 off 13 v SA can be ignored as there is still time for other batsmen ... Wasted 25 balls v Zim, where Ind had to rely on an exceptional p'ship later on driven by SKY Unless ppl want to turn India to (the usually laughable) RCB, need to move away from such an approach! "Only done well against Asian teams" Astounding analysis. Idiot Kohli, should have scored 82 vs Zimbabwe instead of Pak. Bigg Brother and AuxiliA 2 Link to comment
zen Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Dil Dil India said: "Only done well against Asian teams" Astounding analysis. Idiot Kohli, should have scored 82 vs Zimbabwe instead of Pak. Criminally wasted balls against Zim (if he had got out by playing less than 10 balls, a different matter) Good knock against Pak (played with Ind having lost early wkts so a different set of circumstances). Never said it is a bad knock or he should not have scored runs there. Edited November 8, 2022 by zen Link to comment
coffee_rules Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 53 minutes ago, zen said: Read what is written. It is self explanatory. There is one team and you make a narrative out of it. Shows your biases. It’s ok to admit Link to comment
zen Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: There is one team and you make a narrative out of it. Shows your biases. It’s ok to admit Biased towards the trends, how cricket is shaped and becomes competitive, not remaining in 2014-2016 cricket. This is 2022. Link to comment
Majestic Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 One thing I really like about Virat Kohli is his ability to close down games. I didn't expected him to be able to win India the match vs Pakistan on his own when the required run rate was 16 with 3 overs to go but he did it inspite of Pandya and DK making a mess in final overs. That to me is very special. If it was someone else, we were losing that game. In the 2016 WT20 vs Australia, similar case happened. The required rate was creeping up and Kohli was able to hit gears at right time and finish the game for us. AuxiliA and Lord 1 1 Link to comment
Majestic Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 2016 vs Australia - 39 needed of 18 balls. Kohli scored most of those runs on his own and finished the game in 13 balls. Kohli scored 32 of 11 balls in that. 2022 vs Pakistan - 48 needed of 18 balls, Kohli again scored most of those runs on his own and finished the game in final ball inspite of couple of hiccups at other end. Kohli scored 36 of 11 balls. And 6 runs were of wide and byes. AuxiliA and Nash 2 Link to comment
figo6762 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Kohli started getting dirty runs , mixed with some excellent play by play awareness .. a good ipl is what he needs now .. Link to comment
Chakdephatte Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 8 hours ago, zen said: Criminally wasted balls against Zim (if he had got out by playing less than 10 balls, a different matter) Good knock against Pak (played with Ind having lost early wkts so a different set of circumstances). So he can't play one bad knock. I mean he still scored in 3 out of 5 innings, in an unpredictable format. 9 hours ago, zen said: A stats padding batting model that works mostly in 150-170 games: First 9 balls, 9 runs (understandable) Next 10 balls, 11 runs (advantage other team) Next 10 balls, 13 runs (advantage other team, many lower order batsmen achieve this SR in first 10 balls) Next 10 balls, 16 runs (almost 29 balls gone to play at 150+ SR) Last 10 balls, 21 runs (You could expect someone to play at this SR after playing so many balls or get out) Overall, 70 off 49 balls in best case scenario, SR 142 (49 balls taken to achieve a SR of 142; this also means only 71 balls for the rest of the team) … If there is a choice, better to spread those 49 balls b/w two players, who can hit a higher SR earlier Aus can play S Smith regularly (who can be consistent too if there is no SR pressure), Eng can play Root and Malan together, etc, to play this kind of cricket, but they don’t. Whole team knows the approach. That's why SKY and Rohit are trying to hit it out. Nothing selfish about it. Hilarious comparisons. Smith and Root are not even comparable to Williamson. Their s.r is under 130. They can't hit sixes at will in last overs. Link to comment
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