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1 hour ago, bharathh said:

Outside of the Delhiites and Punjabis noone else buys the "Delhi model" and their image

 

AAP 0 seats in Himachal Pradesh. Had a crash and burn in UP, Goa, WB and pretty much every other state they went to last year also. 

Nehru could had said the same thing that nobody is buying Hindutva ideology of Jan Sangh in 1960. .Politics is not so easy in short term. It takes years and years to establish themselves.

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14 minutes ago, Singh bling said:

Nehru could had said the same thing that nobody is buying Hindutva ideology of Jan Sangh in 1960. .Politics is not so easy in short term. It takes years and years to establish themselves.

He didn't have to - he probably just banned whatever media promoted them. Our man Nehru was the biggest dictator of all. The true Sauron.

 

That said - with the kind of media coverage we have today - you can't really compare the media of then to now. Plus AAP is known to be one of the biggest spenders of media in the country. https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/delhi-govt-ad-spending-increased-over-4200-from-2012-to-2022-rti-replies/article65605655.ece

 

And yes Politics does take time.. but what are AAP's politics other than freebies? Even the DMK and other Dravidian parties have them beat with the hate vs the upper caste as an added bonus. They definitely went from anti-corruption crusaders to most corrupt in a record time. 

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23 minutes ago, bharathh said:

 definitely went from anti-corruption crusaders to most corrupt in a record time. 

On TV, One could hear 'mera rang de basanti chola' playing in aap office after Mcd win which is a song in reference to bhagat singh who got Martyred for country, by death sentence in jail... meaning they say they draw inspiration/similarities from his sacrifice in present era....n here we have a aap minister jailed for prima facie corruption, who is incidentally also the jail minister (lol) , having massages from rapists inside jail, living luxurious life...

This is the inspiration they took from bhagat singh...the gall...

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8 hours ago, bharathh said:

Since 1985

Pretty funny to look at the results

  

       Cong | BJP
1985 |  58  | 7
1990 |  9   | 46
1993 |  52  | 8
1998 |  31  | 31
2003 |  43  | 16
2007 |  23  | 41
2012 |  36  | 26
2017 |  26  | 36

 

The margin keeps decreasing though. Might be a close one next few years. TN usually is a rout for a defeated party.

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2 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

Even in case of routs in TN, the vote percentage diff is very little, like 2-3 %

Wow. How is that even possible lol. How can a switch happen with such a small percentage. Unless there are party loyalists and that important independent voters

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4 hours ago, Singh bling said:

Nehru could had said the same thing that nobody is buying Hindutva ideology of Jan Sangh in 1960. .Politics is not so easy in short term. It takes years and years to establish themselves.

It took 10 years for AAP to become a National party, Now that they have won Delhi MCD too....they have more power to better Delhi, the further betterment of Delhi will get them  seats in other states, for now they should just focus 'one state at a time'...if not they won't achieve anything in future. 

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5 hours ago, randomGuy said:

On TV, One could hear 'mera rang de basanti chola' playing in aap office after Mcd win which is a song in reference to bhagat singh who got Martyred for country, by death sentence in jail... meaning they say they draw inspiration/similarities from his sacrifice in present era....n here we have a aap minister jailed for prima facie corruption, who is incidentally also the jail minister (lol) , having massages from rapists inside jail, living luxurious life...

This is the inspiration they took from bhagat singh...the gall...

Bhagwant Mann is big follower of Bhagat Singh. He removed pics of Maharaja Ranjit Singh and replaced it with Bhagat Singh and Ambedkar in CM office Imagine some removing pics of Shivaji in Maharashtra.

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21 hours ago, ravishingravi said:

 

Massive shifts happening. BJP also won muslim majority states in Gujarat.

 

wont last...low turnout. Azam khan directed muslim voters to stay away to send a message to A Yadav. 

 

Even the seat they lost to RLD was impacted by low turnout.

 

I would say BJP must better suited to gaining Mainpuri. Only reason Dimple won was because of sympathy wave for MSY. That wont be there in 2024.

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Re Guj

 

BJP gains in vote share was a combination of lower turnouts in rural areas in relation to urban areas+a marked increase in vote share in urban seats which were already strongholds. 

 

The seat share is a combination of non BJP voters staying at home + AAP cutting Cong votes. Both 2017 and 2022 are not reflective of the natural mandate which is BJP 110 to 120 seats.

 

Re HP

 

Harimpur let the BJP down....BJP was expected to do well in Mandi and not so well in Kangra.  Not as simple blaming the Dhumals (Anurag thakur). JP Nadda also need to be hauled up as to why his candidate selection is so poor. BJP lost the Ls seat in Mandi (where they have won 10/10 in assembly) in a bypoll due to extremely poor candidate selection by Nadda.

 

Nadda simply needs to go when his term is up in 2023. I think he serves as a Brahmin face which aids the BJP nationally. But he is a poor politician who cannot deliver his patch. It should be noted that Anurag Thakur ran a very good BJP campaign in western up. I think he was not named CM candidate and that has caused this issues. Had he been named CM candidate BJP would have won.

 

watch the space in HP. There are two major Congress factions. I suspect if Pratibha Singh (wife of Virbhadra) is not made CM (or her son who is an MLA is not made CM) then she might form her own party.  Congress will be wise to have somebody like Shukla keeping an eye on the HP unit. They did not do with with UK and Bahuguna rebelled which resulted in near permanent loss.

 

Re MCD

 

This was a needed loss to take the party forward. Sheila Dixit was wise to split the MCD into 3 parts. It kept the BJP divided. With 12 councillors nominated the BJP will wait for cracks in AAP to develop for a year and then make their move n 2024. (the 12 cannot vote this election).

 

The good news for the BJP is that with Delhi becoming more bipolar they are breaching 40%. They will need to get 46% of the votes to win either the MCD or the assembly. From this base they need a solid face. A gamble needs to be taken with Kapil Mishra. If he can get 43% or move it is a move that will pay off.

 

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On 12/9/2022 at 7:07 AM, G_B_ said:

Re Guj

 

BJP gains in vote share was a combination of lower turnouts in rural areas in relation to urban areas+a marked increase in vote share in urban seats which were already strongholds. 

 

The seat share is a combination of non BJP voters staying at home + AAP cutting Cong votes. Both 2017 and 2022 are not reflective of the natural mandate which is BJP 110 to 120 seats.

 

Re HP

 

Harimpur let the BJP down....BJP was expected to do well in Mandi and not so well in Kangra.  Not as simple blaming the Dhumals (Anurag thakur). JP Nadda also need to be hauled up as to why his candidate selection is so poor. BJP lost the Ls seat in Mandi (where they have won 10/10 in assembly) in a bypoll due to extremely poor candidate selection by Nadda.

 

Nadda simply needs to go when his term is up in 2023. I think he serves as a Brahmin face which aids the BJP nationally. But he is a poor politician who cannot deliver his patch. It should be noted that Anurag Thakur ran a very good BJP campaign in western up. I think he was not named CM candidate and that has caused this issues. Had he been named CM candidate BJP would have won

 

watch the space in HP. There are two major Congress factions. I suspect if Pratibha Singh (wife of Virbhadra) is not made CM (or her son who is an MLA is not made CM) then she might form her own party.  Congress will be wise to have somebody like Shukla keeping an eye on the HP unit. They did not do with with UK and Bahuguna rebelled which resulted in near permanent loss.


Sukhwindar Singh Sukhu is the CM. 
https://twitter.com/ani/status/1601533092501786624?s=46&t=1LR7jGUaFQUt0UeVTX0q2Q

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