Is Australia peaking at the right time?

[SRT100]

Australia looks to be a force again.

 

Great win overnight and they have players in form.

 

Beware of the Australian ambush. Not only do they have history of winning tournaments but also a rich history of never giving up.

 

The mindset of the Australian sportsman is to peak for finals. Its ingrained in the culture in AFL and Rugby, where they play home and away games for 6 months than finals to win the championship.

 

Its one of the few cricketing nations where this culture of doing whats enough to qualify then perform at another higher level is indoctrinated into every aspect of the Australian life.

 

Thoughts? @express bowling@Vijy@raki05@Lord@coffee_rules@cricspirit

[Chaos]

No. No chance in hell aussies would do what they did against teams other than pak, afg, bd. Bus stops there. It was the biggest farce this idiot captain didnt bring back pacers to finish up. Then got nabi in when maxwell has only one way to go is hit. 
 

either ways it helped india, i rather face aussies or sa in final than aussies in semis.

Edited November 8, 2023 by Chaos

[cricketfan28]

no, they got lucky, there is no peak.

[RedFever]

25 minutes ago, Chaos said:

No. No chance in hell aussies would do what they did against teams other than pak, afg, bd. Bus stops there. It was the biggest farce this idiot captain didnt bring back to finish up. Then got nabi in when maxwell has only one way to go is hit. 
 

either ways it helped india, i rather face aussies or sa in final than aussies in semis.

How did it helped India, Aus were going to finish 3rd irrespective of today's result.

[sandeep]

what happened to culture of Aus sports for Warner, Head, Marsh, Inglis, Labu?  

 

Even Maxwell gave an absolute sitter of a catch.  If AFG didn't get intimidated with the thought of the big upset and take that catch, then the great AUS likely lose by 100+ runs and end up barely making Semifinal.

 

 

[SRT100]

39 minutes ago, Chaos said:

No. No chance in hell aussies would do what they did against teams other than pak, afg, bd. Bus stops there. It was the biggest farce this idiot captain didnt bring back to finish up. Then got nabi in when maxwell has only one way to go is hit. 
 

either ways it helped india, i rather face aussies or sa in final than aussies in semis.

In many ways its good that we dont play Australia in a SEMI, hopefully they play SA and they stop choking and knock them out.

[SRT100]

4 minutes ago, sandeep said:

what happened to culture of Aus sports for Warner, Head, Marsh, Inglis, Labu?  

 

Even Maxwell gave an absolute sitter of a catch.  If AFG didn't get intimidated with the thought of the big upset and take that catch, then the great AUS likely lose by 100+ runs and end up barely making Semifinal.

 

 

 

Ridiculous post.

 

The number of times Australia has won tournaments, India can literally only dream of this happening.

Even with so much money and power in the game, when was India's last meaningful tournament win? 2013? 10+ years ago since India won a trophy?

[Bigg Brother]

Aussie would have made it to SF even if not for win today. Don't understand the hype. 

[coffee_rules]

Good bowling from India and SA showed that their batting weak despite the freakish Maxwell innings. Even AFG batting took them to the cleaners. They barely beat NZ . They can be taken down

[IndianRenegade]

Peaking? as in letting AFG score 290+ & losing most of the side before scoring 100 in the chase? if it wasn't for some brain dead crappy bowling & a miracle of an innings from Maxwell they would have lost by 150+.

 

I don't know if you can call most of your team failing & winning on the shoulders of one man peaking.

[Number]

Aussie may have an aura over other teams, but we have smashed them so much even in their home, that it doesn't apply to us.

They will have to play out of their skins to beat us. 

Edited November 8, 2023 by Number

[sandeep]

33 minutes ago, SRT100 said:

 

Ridiculous post.

 

The number of times Australia has won tournaments, India can literally only dream of this happening.

Even with so much money and power in the game, when was India's last meaningful tournament win? 2013? 10+ years ago since India won a trophy?

 

It took almighty Australia 7 tries to finally win a T20 WC.  What happened to them in 2019 ODI WC? Did they make the final?  Are you basing all this hype on them winning the 2015 ODI WC in home conditions?  Both India and Aus have won the last ODI WC hosted in home conditions, and gotten to Semifinal in the one they didn't.  In 2011, Aus couldn't even make the semifinal.  

 

Sporting culture my ass - go and light 20 candles to AFG fielders for dropping sitters, else you'd be sitting here wondering if there is any risk of Aus not making the final 4.  

 

 

[singhvivek141]

1 hour ago, SRT100 said:

Australia looks to be a force again.

 

Great win overnight and they have players in form.

 

Beware of the Australian ambush. Not only do they have history of winning tournaments but also a rich history of never giving up.

 

The mindset of the Australian sportsman is to peak for finals. Its ingrained in the culture in AFL and Rugby, where they play home and away games for 6 months than finals to win the championship.

 

Its one of the few cricketing nations where this culture of doing whats enough to qualify then perform at another higher level is indoctrinated into every aspect of the Australian life.

 

Thoughts? @express bowling@Vijy@raki05@Lord@coffee_rules@cricspirit

Australia is no doubt a phenomenal team, time & time they have shown us never to ignore them...the way they turned things around in 1999 WC and went straight to win was a massive show of skill, determination & mental strength. 

 

However, all things aside. This team of 2023 isn't looking that strong. While batting firepower is still there, bowling looks severely weak & depleted.

 

Hazelwood & Cummins are looking off colour, don't have skills to bowl in death and are just bowl cutters into the pitch, Starc is looking sick & much older now, the terrorizing Starc of 2015 & 2019 is long gone now who can bowl lethal yorkers at 145k....while Maxwell/Stoinis aren't the bowling option which will scare anyone. I know in the game of cricket anyone can beat anyone on a given day, but at this moment except Zampa..none of the Auzzie bowlers are any real threat for us.

 

 

[nevada]

1 minute ago, Number said:

Aussie may have an aura over other teams, but we have smashed them so much in their home and away that it doesn't apply to us.

They will have to play out of their skins to beat us. 

That being said, the Aussies have a habit of just one man stepping up and winning games for them. It was Maxie yesterday, it was Wade in the T20 WC in '21, Mitch Marsh has stepped up a few times, Travis Head took the game away in the WTC final, Symonds did a rescue act and career take off back in 2003, etc. 

[SRT100]

10 minutes ago, sandeep said:

 

It took almighty Australia 7 tries to finally win a T20 WC.  What happened to them in 2019 ODI WC? Did they make the final?  Are you basing all this hype on them winning the 2015 ODI WC in home conditions?  Both India and Aus have won the last ODI WC hosted in home conditions, and gotten to Semifinal in the one they didn't.  In 2011, Aus couldn't even make the semifinal.  

 

Sporting culture my ass - go and light 20 candles to AFG fielders for dropping sitters, else you'd be sitting here wondering if there is any risk of Aus not making the final 4.  

 

 

Such an ignorant post, its actually more embarrassing than anything else.

 

Australia has won the ODI ICC Trophy at the WC in India, England, SA and Australia.

 

Champions Trophy in WI and SA.

 

World Test Championship Trophy in England.

 

and T20 WC in 2021 in Australia.

 

India can only dream of achieving this. You have clearly demonstrated your lack of knowledge of their supremacy.

 

 

 

 

[SRT100]

12 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

Australia is no doubt a phenomenal team, time & time they have shown us never to ignore them...the way they turned things around in 1999 WC and went straight to win was a massive show of skill, determination & mental strength. 

 

However, all things aside. This team of 2023 isn't looking that strong. While batting firepower is still there, bowling looks severely weak & depleted.

 

Hazelwood & Cummins are looking off colour, don't have skills to bowl in death and are just bowl cutters into the pitch, Starc is looking sick & much older now, the terrorizing Starc of 2015 & 2019 is long gone now who can bowl lethal yorkers at 145k....while Maxwell/Stoinis aren't the bowling option which will scare anyone. I know in the game of cricket anyone can beat anyone on a given day, but at this moment except Zampa..none of the Auzzie bowlers are any real threat for us.

 

 

 

I dont disagree here. India should win this year's ODI WC, however to post that Australia has not been a force in World Cricket and in particular winning trophies is ignorant.

Not saying you have said it, just reiterating what ignorant posters on here are saying.

[First class]

This will make a great final,  India-Australia , with this new found form and momentum , Australia is the only team which can challenge India. 

[nitinbwj]

Hell NOOOOOOO. Agreed it was a brutal clutch innings but braindead bowling for 25 overs? He saved Aus from humiliation more than anything else. 

[R!TTER]

7 hours ago, singhvivek141 said:

the way they turned things around in 1999 WC and went straight to win was a massive show of skill, determination & mental strength. 

They were at least slightly lucky vs SA, had Gibbs held to the Steve Waugh catch we wouldn't even talking about their legacy here! But whatever they did till 2009 CT had class written all over it, the last 0.001% is what defines a great team over the very many other good ones - that's what defined peak Windies of yore & Oz to a lesser extent. I say less because for me Oz had an inferior bowling lineup, even in India they won all the games batting first putting massive totals in 2004 - if we had a 5/6 match series between the best of Windies & peak Oz today with DRS & what not I would give the edge to Windies 9/10 times 

Edited November 8, 2023 by R!TTER

[SRT100]

7 minutes ago, First class said:

This will make a great final,  India-Australia , with this new found form and momentum , Australia is the only team which can challenge India. 

Correct.

 

I would rather India play Pakistan, NZ or SA in any final than Australia.