Ultimate_Game Posted May 20, 2024 Posted May 20, 2024 This makes no sense. Both Riyan Parag and Abhishek Sharma were the top run scorers in SMA trophy along with hitting max no. of 6s. Following on from SMA, in the recent IPL, Abhishek has hit the highest no. of 6s ever by an Indian - an astounding 41 in barely 13 games! He has also managed to score nearly 500 runs at a SR of more than 200! And Riyan Parag has been one of the best middle order performers this IPL. Both of them have been the standout performers in SMA as well as IPL and still no selections for them. On top of that they can both roll their arm overs, and in case of Abhishek, he's a pretty decent bowler and should suit WI pitches. As for Rinku, his intl record says it all - an average of 89 with a SR of 176 - and was the best Indian batsman when he played T20Is. Despite these performances and stellar performances we take likes of Rohit, Jadeja, Axar, Siraj etc. who've been failing in T20Is forever. Rohit hasn't done shyte in T20s in ages, and Jadeja has a whopping SR of 97 in WT20s since 2009! And Siraj is simply not a T20 bowler. What exactly is the criteria for selection? Domestic performances? IPL performances? Previous intl performances? No matter which criteria you go with, Rohit, Jadeja, Siraj etc. fail in every criteria. How come nobody in the media or ex-players calling this out? You can ignore these selections if the team was winning but we haven't won anything for more than a decade when even the likes of SL,WI, Pak, NZ have won an ICC tourney! Our track record has been so poor that we couldn't even fluke one single trophy and it's all due to these non-merit based selections. And still nobody cares and nobody is calling BCCI and selectors (Agarkar) out! velu, nevada and tweaker 3
singhvivek141 Posted May 20, 2024 Posted May 20, 2024 1 hour ago, Ultimate_Game said: This makes no sense. Both Riyan Parag and Abhishek Sharma were the top run scorers in SMA trophy along with hitting max no. of 6s. Following on from SMA, in the recent IPL, Abhishek has hit the highest no. of 6s ever by an Indian - an astounding 41 in barely 13 games! He has also managed to score nearly 500 runs at a SR of more than 200! And Riyan Parag has been one of the best middle order performers this IPL. Both of them have been the standout performers in SMA as well as IPL and still no selections for them. On top of that they can both roll their arm overs, and in case of Abhishek, he's a pretty decent bowler and should suit WI pitches. As for Rinku, his intl record says it all - an average of 89 with a SR of 176 - and was the best Indian batsman when he played T20Is. Despite these performances and stellar performances we take likes of Rohit, Jadeja, Axar, Siraj etc. who've been failing in T20Is forever. Rohit hasn't done shyte in T20s in ages, and Jadeja has a whopping SR of 97 in WT20s since 2009! And Siraj is simply not a T20 bowler. What exactly is the criteria for selection? Domestic performances? IPL performances? Previous intl performances? No matter which criteria you go with, Rohit, Jadeja, Siraj etc. fail in every criteria. How come nobody in the media or ex-players calling this out? You can ignore these selections if the team was winning but we haven't won anything for more than a decade when even the likes of SL,WI, Pak, NZ have won an ICC tourney! Our track record has been so poor that we couldn't even fluke one single trophy and it's all due to these non-merit based selections. And still nobody cares and nobody is calling BCCI and selectors (Agarkar) out! 1. They must have a big fanbase and Brand value Else 2. They must have good relations with the seniors Else 3. They must not be a threat to existing players Need4Speed, Mosher, Ultimate_Game and 2 others 1 1 3
deepdynamo Posted May 20, 2024 Posted May 20, 2024 (edited) This IPL has given us multi skilled players like Abhishek, Parag and Nitish Reddy along with a proven finisher in Rinku. This could have been a perfect rejig like in 2007. But, no we have to adhere to predictability in Rohit, Kohli, Pant, Jadeja, Pandya, Siraj. Infact Jadeja or Pandya can be a good T20 contributors in a team that is flexible and multifaceted. Imagine Pandya coming at 8 after a powerful multiskilled top 7. Abhishek Jaiswal Samson Sky Parag Dube Rinku Pandya Edited May 20, 2024 by deepdynamo Lord, Ultimate_Game and rollingstoned 1 2
bowl_out Posted May 20, 2024 Posted May 20, 2024 2 hours ago, deepdynamo said: This IPL has given us multi skilled players like Abhishek, Parag and Nitish Reddy along with a proven finisher in Rinku. This could have been a perfect rejig like in 2007. But, no we have to adhere to predictability in Rohit, Kohli, Pant, Jadeja, Pandya, Siraj. Infact Jadeja or Pandya can be a good T20 contributors in a team that is flexible and multifaceted. Imagine Pandya coming at 8 after a powerful multiskilled top 7. Abhishek Jaiswal Samson Sky Parag Dube Rinku Pandya And you go in with three bowlers, one of which is Siraj? That's recipe for disaster. While I like the intent, this is an overkill of batsmen. Only one of Dube or Rinku should play here, and play an additional bowler. The biggest problem with our WC selection is the announcement of Rohit as captain. Not only does that bring a useless opener causing Abhishek and possibly even Jaiswal to sit out, it also means one spot is guaranteed to be offered to someone so woefully out of form. Ultimate_Game and nitinbwj 1 1
vvvslaxman Posted May 20, 2024 Posted May 20, 2024 I won't be shocked if we run into another scenario of 3 for 3. Ultimate_Game 1
Lord Posted May 20, 2024 Posted May 20, 2024 3 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: I won't be shocked if we run into another scenario of 3 for 3. and then Rohit will blame bowlers or lower order Ultimate_Game 1
Chaos Posted May 20, 2024 Posted May 20, 2024 2 minutes ago, Lord said: and then Rohit will blame bowlers or lower order dont be hating on a playa like hitman…hate the selectors. Once hitman says yes u OBEY.
Lone Wolf Posted May 20, 2024 Posted May 20, 2024 Yash Dayal imo best in form T20 left arm pacer.... Has Kohli got zero pull to not even try to force Agarkar. Abhishek is direct threat to Rohit so he won't be selected as long as he is there. Parag threat to Fraud and Axar or even Dube. Rinku has a outside chance if team is changed before 25 may & he stars in IPl Knockouts.
vvvslaxman Posted May 20, 2024 Posted May 20, 2024 4 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: Yash Dayal imo best in form T20 left arm pacer.... Has Kohli got zero pull to not even try to force Agarkar. Abhishek is direct threat to Rohit so he won't be selected as long as he is there. Parag threat to Fraud and Axar or even Dube. Rinku has a outside chance if team is changed before 25 may & he stars in IPl Knockouts. You know how it goes with India. INjury is always our friend. That is when we discovered players singhvivek141 1
nitinbwj Posted May 20, 2024 Posted May 20, 2024 Because the selectors and the old fukk fart seniors are the madarc********************** of the highest order rollingstoned, Chaos, RajBan and 1 other 1 1 2
Chaos Posted May 20, 2024 Posted May 20, 2024 Cuz our selectors r dumb af. Simple? Abhi especially in this form n can bowl too was a no brainer. Ultimate_Game 1
velu Posted May 20, 2024 Posted May 20, 2024 this is really depressing for both the players and supporters Ultimate_Game and Chaos 2
kosingh Posted May 20, 2024 Posted May 20, 2024 This is nothing new. Decisions like thee have been the norm for years now.
Nikhil_cric Posted May 20, 2024 Posted May 20, 2024 We will continue our run of not winning ICC trophies. Jarrod Kimber on TalkSport very candidly called out India's inability with the bat - playing like anchors because there's no depth - for all these failures. Sadly, neither Indian TM/BCCI nor some of the foolish fans will ever realise that. Ultimate_Game and Manucrick 1 1
Chaos Posted May 20, 2024 Posted May 20, 2024 43 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said: We will continue our run of not winning ICC trophies. Jarrod Kimber on TalkSport very candidly called out India's inability with the bat - playing like anchors because there's no depth - for all these failures. Sadly, neither Indian TM/BCCI nor some of the foolish fans will ever realise that. tell them to kick kohli out n then chahal. Add abhi, parag Nikhil_cric 1
Chaos Posted May 20, 2024 Posted May 20, 2024 Just now, Chaos said: tell them to kick kohli out n then chahal. Add abhi, parag Fagli wil miss easiest catches and no where near high intensity as he plays for rcb.
cricketfan28 Posted May 20, 2024 Posted May 20, 2024 Sharma is better than A sharma because of his chanakya brain and experience. Manucrick and Ultimate_Game 2
Vilander Posted May 20, 2024 Posted May 20, 2024 Rinse and repeat. If you have been around long enough you know. Ultimate_Game 1
Ultimate_Game Posted May 21, 2024 Author Posted May 21, 2024 11 hours ago, velu said: this is really depressing for both the players and supporters Yup. It's depressing and frustrating. It's one thing where you try your best and have your best team and you still can't win, just like kiwis. But it's a different level of frustration when you have the right players in form but are not picked as they're not "experienced" or "senior" enough, or don't play for the right IPL franchise or state team. Honestly, we could've sent out our best T20 side this tourney but we'll fail as usual as we decided on selecting TTFs despite the evidence on display. deepdynamo 1
vishalvirsingh Posted May 21, 2024 Posted May 21, 2024 Abhishek Sharma Should be put into the WorldCup 15 probably ahead of Rishabh Pant. reasons- Rishabh was not supremely fit in the IPL- Samson's fitness is way better than Rishabh at least for the World Cup. His performance was also Average. Samsun is a Steady BATSMAN and who is at the Peak of his prowess now- rishabh is recovering and he requires a little more time to be at his Peak. We cant dump dube , nor can we dump jaiswal so Abhishek should come ahead of RISHABH. ABhishek can be a Spare batsman in the 15 ahead of GILL. 2. if ARSHDEEP is not at his best form , we should get some one else to be in the 15- KHALEEL is the best bet else Harshit. khaleel is the best left-arm quick we have today. BOOM and Siraj are good( siraj is back in form). Shammi is unfit. Hardik pandya has to be in form both as batsman and as a bowler. he is out of form but even at his 50 % strength , his position cannot be challenged as he can bat well and bowl well - I feel he is coming back from injury so will be in. 3, Bishnoi is a better t20 bowler than Chahal. bishnoi bats better , fields better and bowls equally well.
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