Gautam Gambhir will not stay Team India’s coach for a long time’: Ex-player predicts

[coffee_rules]

Gautam Gambhir will not stay Team India’s coach for a long time’: Ex-player predicts 
 

https://crictoday.com/cricket/daily-cricket-news/gautam-gambhir-will-not-stay-team-indias-coach-for-a-long-time-ex-player-predicts-new-head-coachs-sacking/

 

Surprise ex-Player. Click to find out!!

[tweaker]

Joginder Sharma.

 

Where was he all this while

[New guy]

2 minutes ago, tweaker said:

Joginder Sharma.

 

Where was he all this while

Doing his DSP stuff in Punjab 

[Lord]

16 minutes ago, New guy said:

Doing his DSP stuff in Punjab 

 

Actual DSP unlike Siraj saab

[tapandrun]

Not defending gg here , but this is his 2nd test series, till the odi world cup (under dravid and rohit)Ind team's performance  was poor, they were losing to every1 ,team had no confidence till asia cup. they did not remove dravid back then even he got an extension. 

And at one point no one was ready to coach Ind team the situation was so bad and bcci does not take random abrupt decisions.

 

GG will remain the coach and what is happening right now is what rohit-dravid-agakar-chetan sowed in last 3/4 years.

There is no back-bone in Ind test batting line, always relying on lower order batter to come good, there is no bench of fast bowler, Ind is left with partially just 1 fast bowler in bhumrah who they had to play against bd because there is no other test level bowler promoted or invested in. Ind invested in saini, Avesh, mukesh,sakaria, unadkat is there any1 who can be picked as no.1/2 bowler for the side ????

 

There is no replacement fr a kl rahul level batter in ind the best they got is gill who is not sure how is an upgrade over kl. Only in eng series Agarkar infused some player like jurell and sarfarz else as things were suggesting dravid and rohit were looking to go back to rahane/pujara

 

Edited October 28, 2024 by tapandrun

[Ultimate_Game]

The biggest challenge for Gambhir is how does he remove non-performing seniors like Kohli and Rohit? His hands are tied. He can't kick them out as we've seen with Kohli laying eggs for 5 years now, and Rohit has been anointed by Nepo-baby Shah till eternity. When 2 of the Top 4 are walking wkts, what can a coach do?

 

Bring in any coach but with these constraints nothing's gonna change. You can't tie a coach's hands and expect him to perform miracles. Look at our T20 team without the dead-weights and compare them to our ODI and Test teams. You can see the difference and anyone can see what's holding the team back but given our system, nothing can be done.

 

There's a reason why Indian team and performances looked so good in Aus in 2020-21 and against Eng when the seniors ran away or took a break. It's the seniors with their so called "experience" holding the team back. Scapgoating coach or bowling is just an excuse. Real problem is our batting due to carrying the seniors.

[Lord]

6 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said:

The biggest challenge for Gambhir is how does he remove non-performing seniors like Kohli and Rohit? His hands are tied. He can't kick them out as we've seen with Kohli laying eggs for 5 years now, and Rohit has been anointed by Nepo-baby Shah till eternity. When 2 of the Top 4 are walking wkts, what can a coach do?

 

Bring in any coach but with these constraints nothing's gonna change. You can't tie a coach's hands and expect him to perform miracles. Look at our T20 team without the dead-weights and compare them to our ODI and Test teams. You can see the difference and anyone can see what's holding the team back but given our system, nothing can be done.

 

There's a reason why Indian team and performances looked so good in Aus in 2020-21 and against Eng when the seniors ran away or took a break. It's the seniors with their so called "experience" holding the team back. Scapgoating coach or bowling is just an excuse. Real problem is our batting due to carrying the seniors.

 

But wasn't he supposed to be the tough guy? Otherwise whats the point of changing coaches. Might as well save the money

[Frustrated]

2012 Home series loss to Eng & 2024 Home series loss (potential whitewash) to NZ.  What is common?   The ans is: GG.      2012: Sucks with the bat.    2024: Stinks as a coach.  

[Ultimate_Game]

3 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

But wasn't he supposed to be the tough guy? Otherwise whats the point of changing coaches. Might as well save the money

 

He simply doesn't have the authority to overrule Jay Shah. When Jay Shah has already anointed Rohit as the captain, what can any coach do? Same with Kohli. Don't think Gambhir or any other coach can do anything.

[The Realist]

There need to be a transition from the has-beens to a new generation. Been long over due.

 

Needed to happen under Dravid but he had no backbone to make the changes. 

 

Gambhir needs to do the necessary. Its nearly 2025 and relying on a core group nearing 40 is delusional. 

[maniac]

1 minute ago, The Realist said:

There need to be a transition from the has-beens to a new generation. Been long over due.

 

Needed to happen under Dravid but he had no backbone to make the changes. 

 

Gambhir needs to do the necessary. Its nearly 2025 and relying on a core group nearing 40 is delusional. 

need Kanitkar-Bahatule to replace Mhambrey-Rathour

[AKane]

1 hour ago, Lord said:

1 hour ago, New guy said:

Doing his DSP stuff in Punjab 

 

Actual DSP unlike Siraj saab

How many such DSPs?

 

Joginder

Hima Das

Siraj

 

..... any more? Never mind...... prolly a lot more.

 

Edited October 25, 2024 by AKane

[Lord]

1 minute ago, AKane said:

How many such DSPs?

 

Joginder

Hima Das

Siraj

 

..... any more?

 

not DSP but one DCS is there

 

 

 

 

Edited October 25, 2024 by Lord

[AKane]

3 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

not DSP but one DCS is there

 

 

 

 

 

Hmm.... Dube had to be in there somewhere, somehow!

[Throwaib_Chuckter]

On 10/26/2024 at 3:03 AM, Lord said:

 

But wasn't he supposed to be the tough guy? Otherwise whats the point of changing coaches. Might as well save the money

Everyone who is up for the gig gets a go; from the looks of things. Who is next in line I wonder.

[Frustrated]

On 10/25/2024 at 9:33 PM, Lord said:

 

But wasn't he supposed to be the tough guy? Otherwise whats the point of changing coaches. Might as well save the money

I don't think anyone in BCCI forced Dravid to go.  Nor was anyone willing to replace him.  It was Dravid's own decision to resign.  It was later revealed that he resigned so that he could focus on his son's career as a cricketer.  Otherwise he would hv definitely cont.. for few more yrs. 

[vishalvirsingh]

On 10/25/2024 at 9:05 PM, tapandrun said:

Not defending gg here , but this is his 2nd test series, till the odi world cup (under dravid and rohit)Ind team's performance  was poor, they were losing to every1 ,team had no confidence till asia cup. they did not remove dravid back then even he got an extension. 

And at one point no one was ready to coach Ind team the situation was so bad and bcci does not take random abrupt decisions.

 

GG will remain the coach and what is happening right now is what rohit-dravid-agakar-chetan sowed in last 3/4 years.

There is back-bone in Ind test batting line, always relying on lower order batter to come good, there is bench of fast bowler, Ind is left with partially just 1 fast bowler in bhumrah who they had to play against bd because there is no other test level bowler promoted or invested in. Ind invested in saini, Avesh, mukesh,sakaria, unadkat is there any1 who can be picked as no.1/2 bowler for the side ????

 

There is no replacement fr a kl rahul level batter in ind the best they got is gill who is not sure how is an upgrade over kl. Only in eng series Agarkar infused some player like jurell and sarfarz else as things were suggesting dravid and rohit were looking to go back to rahane/pujara

 

Many steps that have happened under Gautam seem to be PERFECT-

Hero worship of KOHLI and ROHIT seem to have become little Less and New PLayers are getting Opportunities. ROHIT and KOHLI performed and won us the T20 WC tittle( under dravid) but rohit is taking right decisions ( except these 2 tests) under GG.

Mayank , Harshit RANA have been fast tracked - it is a right decision. it is our bad luck that MAYANK is not going to Australia. if SHAMMI and MAYANK would have been fit and going to Australia , we would be superexcited about the PACE attack. still harshit , Akashdeep, Prasidh and SAINI, KHaleel and Mukesh are right calls. all pacers and spinners who are performing are getting opportunities.

see riyan parag ( he is hurt now so not selected) , abhishek - they got their chances and are getting chances.

under GG our T20 results are 100 percent ( we are winning everything since GG has taken over). 

We recently DESTROYED Bangladesh in tests and t20 under GG. Their coach LOST his JOB.

Gautam has become a COACH after he has proved his credentials as a mentor and coach. he took some outstanding decisions with KKR due to which KKR won IPL.  decisions like suppporting starc and Harshit Rana , playing 3 spinners. asking a spinner to open the batting and HIT from the first BALL.

did you notice ROHIT destroying bangla in a test match..rohit started with a 6 of the first ball.

having said that i agree rohit and GG choose to BAT first on a dangerous track - wrong decision- mistake. 

but GG did not expect batting to collapse like that. 

GG hired one of the BEST bowling coach MORNE MORKEL. got a coach abhishek and ryan ten does who also seem to be very good. got the fielding coach to continue with his team - very correct decision.

GG has made one or 2 mistakes but i feel He will CHANGE Indian team for the better and the decisions that he is taking ( like fast tracking Mayank and Harshit and prasidh ahead of Mukesh Kumar and trundlers) is going to reap us big benefits.

yes SIRAJ is a bit out of form and SHAMMI is unfit, UMESH and ISHANT are gone, Kuldeep sen , umraan are unfit. i agree GG is a bit UNLUCKY. 

But he is doing a GREAT JOB at least now..i am sure about it.

[Adamant]

On 10/25/2024 at 9:37 PM, Ultimate_Game said:

 

He simply doesn't have the authority to overrule Jay Shah. When Jay Shah has already anointed Rohit as the captain, what can any coach do? Same with Kohli. Don't think Gambhir or any other coach can do anything.

So Gambhir is basically not man enough for this job.

 

First of all didn’t he know before accepting the job that he couldn’t throw out the seniors? If Gambhir has bent his back infront of seniors then he is as much to be blamed as anyone else in BCCI.  Please don’t try to portray him as an innocent man.

 

Why would two senior players themselves quit, your Board should have the aukaad to do that, if they don’t then admit they are at fault insteas of asking seniors to quit.

 

You are portraying everyone else as innocent and only the two seniors as responsible for everything, makes for a good story in Icf but isn’t practical. 
 

The board threw Kohli of as captain three years back, there is no reason as to why they couldn’t throw him as a player.

 

The only reason for which BcCi couldn’t throw Kohli Rohit is because of the popularity and money, if BCCi is greedy and wants to milk both of them its actually completely BcCis fault, I would never blame the seniors for playing, they are cricketers they will keep on playing until you drop them, just like all of our past players including Dhoni, Sachin, Sehwag, Laxman , Ganguly, Kapil Dev.

[Lord]

1 hour ago, Frustrated said:

I don't think anyone in BCCI forced Dravid to go.  Nor was anyone willing to replace him.  It was Dravid's own decision to resign.  It was later revealed that he resigned so that he could focus on his son's career as a cricketer.  Otherwise he would hv definitely cont.. for few more yrs. 

 

Yeah but I'm saying why need even a coach if he cant take decisions to drop seniors. What is his role exactly?

[sensible-indian]

1 hour ago, Adamant said:

So Gambhir is basically not man enough for this job.

 

First of all didn’t he know before accepting the job that he couldn’t throw out the seniors? If Gambhir has bent his back infront of seniors then he is as much to be blamed as anyone else in BCCI.  Please don’t try to portray him as an innocent man.

 

Why would two senior players themselves quit, your Board should have the aukaad to do that, if they don’t then admit they are at fault insteas of asking seniors to quit.

 

You are portraying everyone else as innocent and only the two seniors as responsible for everything, makes for a good story in Icf but isn’t practical. 
 

The board threw Kohli of as captain three years back, there is no reason as to why they couldn’t throw him as a player.

 

The only reason for which BcCi couldn’t throw Kohli Rohit is because of the popularity and money, if BCCi is greedy and wants to milk both of them its actually completely BcCis fault, I would never blame the seniors for playing, they are cricketers they will keep on playing until you drop them, just like all of our past players including Dhoni, Sachin, Sehwag, Laxman , Ganguly, Kapil Dev.

 

Every fan needs to realize this.

 

Its NOT the players who need to quit.

 

Its the selectors who need to drop them.

 

When selectors and coaches don't do the job, the only thing left is to ENJOY the team's misery and losses.