diga Posted May 11, 2025 Posted May 11, 2025 1 hour ago, kepler37b said: This is straight from NY times. So us hitting peshawar caused heart failure to Rubio and Vance. I think they were VERY much worried about their economic interests here. .. to the wrist slitters. This is an exceptional booster for India as a country. Modiji is the greatest gujju after Patel. From another article "An adversary that proudly calls itself the sole possessor of the Islamic Bomb and guardian of the Caliphate’s nuclear mecca was left devastated by the utter humiliation piled on it”. raki05 1
jf1gp_1 Posted May 11, 2025 Posted May 11, 2025 9 minutes ago, Suhaan said: No amount of pounding whether on civilians or military assets will force rogue pakistan to stop terrorism It can buy time i agree,infra can be rebuilt The main problem of inflitration is due to those launching pads which are in POK, Lol,unless that is taken ,you cannot have long time peace,so basically India has to expand its borders Do you really think it's a matter of 2 more days of operation that could have brought in those results We will have To be strong enough to absorb US or China pressure,both militarily and economically US knows it, economy is our biggest priority,they have certainly pressurised us on that Even if we had launched an operation to take over POK now,i don't think many here and in the country who give war cry /rudaali cry as per whims, have the balls to take in huge price to do that Pakistan has backing of two big powers behind it, Who do we have now?They will certainly continue harboring terrorists,we have to be vigilant and play the long game I have the perfect punishment. NO bilateral cricket With Pakistan. raki05, MechEng and pkmmamks 3
Real McCoy Posted May 11, 2025 Posted May 11, 2025 11 minutes ago, ravishingravi said: I think you are losing credibility very fast by bringing Covid here. We are talking about specific subject so let's stick to it. I am man enough to accept when I am wrong. Perhaps you have never been wrong about anything, then you are no man. Now I don't disagree with what you are saying. And I have as low a view of US as anyone. I am looking at chain of events and India's interest. Pahalagam incident didn't happen in a void. Just a month before, Punjabis were identified and killed in Balochistan. There are Pak army men dying every other day. TTP is attacking on western front. Whom did Jaishankar meet before this attack ? Taliban. Big picture. US has chosen a side in fight against their enemy no 1. That's India. India is reticent about US and cannot play vassal state. But as chess pieces are set up for final confrontation ( which could be 3-4 years away ), India has to secure it's interests. Growth of its economy. Defence of its peope. If these two fold, then there is no future but become poor vassal state. China has chosen to hurt us but we can't take China on at this stage thanks years of hindu growth rate. So we are having to do this unreal balancing act while managing $2500 gdp per capita nation. But our capabilities are improving exponentially as we just saw. And our enemies saw. India has to open eastern front if it has to grow. Pakistan is nit acting again India. China is the pupeteer and US is the profiteer. So what are we planning to do. Pakistan presumed that it is secured after gaining nuclear arms. What it doesn't understand is that nu lear arms are no good country breaks from within. Dwindling economy and water crisis will crush them. Taliban and balochis will do the rest. And who will be pushing on the other side ? Us. And don't rule out taking Pok in a surprise attack. Pakistan can't afford this level of vigilance. India is rightfully reticent on US. I find it more pliable with the arrival of Trump. I hate this display of "fraandship" with trump. trump again is a nominal ruler. the real power is behind him. no matter if its trummp or biden, republican or democrat, their policy doesnt change and I don't think this will change in the future. US wants to put India against China doesn't mean they support India. They are not friends and can never be counted on as allies. same is with UK. They will only support India if it becomes a vassal which India doesnt want to do as you said. Even that "support" will change based on the changing interests of america. Case in point is pakistan. America restricts other nations development which means putting countries against each other and fomenting conflict. They want India as a vassal to check China's development. They also want Pakistan as a rogue state to check India. And Afghanistan to check Pakistan. China is playing its own game in suppressing India. They are the obvious super power nearby but American neo-imperialism is not gonna go without a fight. They have all the nukes with them even if their economy is in decline. raki05 and ravishingravi 1 1
Suhaan Posted May 11, 2025 Posted May 11, 2025 1 minute ago, jf1gp_1 said: I have the perfect punishment. NO bilateral cricket With Pakistan. Exactly ,no cricket at all with them raki05 1
Lone Wolf Posted May 11, 2025 Posted May 11, 2025 15 minutes ago, ravishingravi said: it's people + Establishment raki05 1
randomGuy Posted May 11, 2025 Posted May 11, 2025 13 minutes ago, cowboysfan said: do we really care what reddit and instagram and Tiktok think?? the major stakeholders know what actually happened and we barely even retaliated(didnt even use the navy). Right. About the navy, heard that strike on their nuke bomb storage sites was by ins Vikrant. raki05 1
Tillu Posted May 11, 2025 Posted May 11, 2025 Probably the best take on why india allowed the cease fire violation yesterday. India probably hit their nuclear facility at the Saragodha hills. All the western powers and China shat their pants and asked for an immediate ceasefire. India does have serious Intel on their nuclear facilities. It once again confirms the ceasefire violation as a face saving act to appease the Pakistani public. raki05 1
Real McCoy Posted May 11, 2025 Posted May 11, 2025 18 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Read about what we did after 26/11/2008. Something, so action is better. You don’t have to be all negative. Yes, we want more, but all in good time. We are on the right path It is indeed better. Let me criticize the govt as they couldnt even get the words out of their mouth. No mention of violation of ceasefire just a roundabout suggestion of it in the press conference. Bigger game theory is still on and I don't know if we are doing anything to fight against it. pkmmamks 1
rkt.india Posted May 11, 2025 Posted May 11, 2025 23 minutes ago, Sean Bradley said: Makes me think sometimes if Modi is just harnessing the issue for personal gains like vote bank politics, and actually not interested in resolving the Kashmir issue neither with dialogue or force. There is barely a closure against anything as your rightly mentioned. This has become a global embarrassment for us, our media has been badly exposed and lost all credibility. We started off with a bang and fizzled out without much gains to show for apart from some damage to runways and few of the terrorist family members. The real perpetrators are still at large and our trophy cabinet is nothing but empty. Kashmir issue can only be resolved if pakistan ceases to exist. pkmmamks and Lone Wolf 2
singhvivek141 Posted May 11, 2025 Posted May 11, 2025 12 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: It wasn't as bad as this. This was the buffonary of highest order. pkmmamks 1
crictime Posted May 11, 2025 Posted May 11, 2025 13 minutes ago, Suhaan said: No amount of pounding whether on civilians or military assets will force rogue pakistan to stop terrorism It can buy time i agree,infra can be rebuilt The main problem of inflitration is due to those launching pads which are in POK, Lol,unless that is taken ,you cannot have long time peace,so basically India has to expand its borders Do you really think it's a matter of 2 more days of operation that could have brought in those results We will have To be strong enough to absorb US or China pressure,both militarily and economically US knows it, economy is our biggest priority,they have certainly pressurised us on that Even if we had launched an operation to take over POK now,i don't think many here and in the country who give war cry /rudaali cry as per whims, have the balls to take in huge price to do that Pakistan has backing of two big powers behind it, Who do we have now?They will certainly continue harboring terrorists,we have to be vigilant and play the long game Who is to blame for this. The amount of money that should be used for purposes like defense, but instead goes into the pockets of corrupt politicians is massive loss when war actually needs money and economic clout to have major nations on our side. Certainly it is not the people at fault here, it is the corrupt officials who are at fault as usual. raki05, pkmmamks and Real McCoy 1 2
MechEng Posted May 11, 2025 Posted May 11, 2025 9 minutes ago, jf1gp_1 said: I have the perfect punishment. NO bilateral cricket With Pakistan. You think the dhando people will ever let this happen. Forget cricket, you may gradually end up seeing Pak youtube channels being unblocked too.
Real McCoy Posted May 11, 2025 Posted May 11, 2025 2 minutes ago, Tillu said: Probably the best take on why india allowed the cease fire violation yesterday. India probably hit their nuclear facility at the Saragodha hills. All the western powers and China shat their pants and asked for an immediate ceasefire. India does have serious Intel on their nuclear facilities. It once again confirms the ceasefire violation as a face saving act to appease the Pakistani public. We lay the accusation that its pak pr to deny that their airbases have been struck. This could also be a pr from our side for lack of reply to the ceasefire violation.
rkt.india Posted May 11, 2025 Posted May 11, 2025 21 minutes ago, Suhaan said: No amount of pounding whether on civilians or military assets will force rogue pakistan to stop terrorism It can buy time i agree,infra can be rebuilt The main problem of inflitration is due to those launching pads which are in POK, Lol,unless that is taken ,you cannot have long time peace,so basically India has to expand its borders Do you really think it's a matter of 2 more days of operation that could have brought in those results We will have To be strong enough to absorb US or China pressure,both militarily and economically US knows it, economy is our biggest priority,they have certainly pressurised us on that Even if we had launched an operation to take over POK now,i don't think many here and in the country who give war cry /rudaali cry as per whims, have the balls to take in huge price to do that Pakistan has backing of two big powers behind it, Who do we have now?They will certainly continue harboring terrorists,we have to be vigilant and play the long game Army proxy war terrorism will never stop. They will increase these attacks now.
bharathh Posted May 11, 2025 Posted May 11, 2025 3 minutes ago, MechEng said: You think the dhando people will ever let this happen. Forget cricket, you may gradually end up seeing Pak youtube channels being unblocked too. I think he was being sarcastic. THat was the extent of our retaliation under Maunmohan Singh. We already don't have bilateral cricket with them. raki05 1
Tillu Posted May 11, 2025 Posted May 11, 2025 2 minutes ago, Real McCoy said: We lay the accusation that its pak pr to deny that their airbases have been struck. This could also be a pr from our side for lack of reply to the ceasefire violation. If we try hard, everything looks like a PR effort. Pakistan did convene a nuclear command meeting yesterday. randomGuy and raki05 2
Suhaan Posted May 11, 2025 Posted May 11, 2025 Just now, rkt.india said: Army proxy war terrorism will never stop. They will increase these attacks now. It will never stop unless we take back PoK India can't just inflict token damage to them Pakistan has all the backing of China and there is possibility of Chongs entering the scene opening the northern front Yesterday,the phone call from Chini premiere to Doval suggests on the similar lines And I don't know what people will do when that happens? US as all know will never come to help us nor is Russia USSR anymore I repeat,who do we have support of?
Sean Bradley Posted May 11, 2025 Posted May 11, 2025 6 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said: This was the buffonary of highest order. Whoever in the BJP office came up with this idea should be sacked with immediate effect. Just sucked the punch out of the entire operation for them. Now it comes across that their govt retaliated only for political gains, agreeing to cease fire after this ad ensured that further credibility is lost and this campaign got an egg on its face.
zen Posted May 11, 2025 Posted May 11, 2025 Proud of the army. Politicians as is usual (and as I had forecasted) let and will continue to let Indian down once they feel their “political” objectives have been achieved. They won’t hesitate to put civilians in danger too. Next challenge for India is combating the “Hindu Nazis, Hail Modi” mindset - don’t fall for their false nationalism, where BJP = India, designed to attack other citizens, and the radical Muslims. Both are equally dangerous for the country. We need to reclaim our India from these anti social elements. Jai Hind Lone Wolf, straighttalk, Lord and 1 other 1 3
rangeelaraja Posted May 11, 2025 Posted May 11, 2025 Pakistan has got to be the filthiest race on the planet. Bhikhari Pigs. All of their most fortified airbases got bombed without any obstruction killing 100s of the personnel and these pigs are celebrating a fake victory because of a temp ceasefire. Redrawing this bastard country’s map and eliminating their top military brass is the only solution. raki05 1
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