What is Ishant Sharma's role in the team?

[Pollack]

49 minutes ago, sarcastic said:

Ishant did do well to remove Renshaw!!! Why blame him when your main bowlers (read Ashwin) do not produce enough wickets!!!

Correct me if I am wrong.The ball kept low for the only wicket Ishant got.We have such low expectations from him that when bowls one good spell( without any wicket ofcourse lmao) we praise him a lot.This is pathetic attitude to say the least.

[sarcastic]

30 minutes ago, Pollack said:

Correct me if I am wrong.The ball kept low for the only wicket Ishant got.We have such low expectations from him that when bowls one good spell( without any wicket ofcourse lmao) we praise him a lot.This is pathetic attitude to say the least.

Yes, in that over. But that was the strategy Ishant was employing to set up Renshaw! He bowled some short-pitched bouncers that kept Renshaw rooted in his crease waiting for another one. At this time, Ishant bowled a well-pitched "stay low" delivery that got Renshaw right infront of the wickets for a plumb LBW. I see that it is an aberration but Ishant did use his brain to set up the batsman. And further in to the spell, he looked ferousiously aggressive against the new batsmen. 

All Ishant has to do is to come up with this kind of aggressive (while also remaining intelligent) spells more often and not rely on opposition batsman needing to fire him up like Renshaw did earlier in that over (by moving away when ishant has almost reached the popping crease). 

Edited March 20, 2017 by sarcastic

[rkt.india]

Still not good enough. He is averaging 69 in this series.

[Pollack]

1 hour ago, sarcastic said:

Yes, in that over. But that was the strategy Ishant was employing to set up Renshaw! He bowled some short-pitched bouncers that kept Renshaw rooted in his crease waiting for another one. At this time, Ishant bowled a well-pitched "stay low" delivery that got Renshaw right infront of the wickets for a plumb LBW. I see that it is an aberration but Ishant did use his brain to set up the batsman. And further in to the spell, he looked ferousiously aggressive against the new batsmen. 

All Ishant has to do is to come up with this kind of aggressive (while also remaining intelligent) spells more often and not rely on opposition batsman needing to fire him up like Renshaw did earlier in that over (by moving away when ishant has almost reached the popping crease). 

I think you are reading too much from that. Ishant does that many times.He bowls one or two bouncers followed by fuller or good length for the entire over.Infact I remember getting pisse'd off him for the same reason when he was bowling to Moeen since I believe there is no need to surprise Mooen with short deliveries and just need to keep bowling short.

[goose]

He can't even stay on his feet now on his follow through. With Ishant playing ALL of the other three need to have a good game for us to win.

[Vk1]

Ishant Sharma at this rate will fast overcome Rahul Gandhi to become the most tried tested forced person at something in the last 10 years in India. 

[asterix]

Ishant is providing decent support to his senior strike bowler Umesh.

[Laaloo]

2 hours ago, rkt.india said:

Still not good enough. He is averaging 69 in this series.

69 is a good number .......

[King Tendulkar]

Simply does not know how to take wickets 

 

funny enough to the eye bowling best ever seen him bowl . Decent pace and accuracy like he never done before 

 

but just not got that ability to make the ball talk and set batsman up etc 

[Texan]

21 hours ago, sarcastic said:

Yes, in that over. But that was the strategy Ishant was employing to set up Renshaw! He bowled some short-pitched bouncers that kept Renshaw rooted in his crease waiting for another one. At this time, Ishant bowled a well-pitched "stay low" delivery that got Renshaw right infront of the wickets for a plumb LBW. I see that it is an aberration but Ishant did use his brain to set up the batsman. And further in to the spell, he looked ferousiously aggressive against the new batsmen. 

All Ishant has to do is to come up with this kind of aggressive (while also remaining intelligent) spells more often and not rely on opposition batsman needing to fire him up like Renshaw did earlier in that over (by moving away when ishant has almost reached the popping crease). 

This is the biggest problem. He takes a grand total of one wicket in the entire match and instead of castigating him for a poor match, that one wicket becomes a model for his potential.

 

"If only he can bowl like this throughout the match....." becomes the flavor of the conversation. But then, he can't and after almost 80 Tests, you don't expect that he will learn something he didn't learn during all those Tests. 

 

Ishant Sharma is by far, the worst cricketer to have played Test cricket for such a long duration. In that aspect, he is the luckiest cricketer ever. There, I said it. Not unlucky, but lucky... in fact, luckiest!

[rtmohanlal]

Prolonged consistant  mediocrity  series after series ...That is Ishant Sharma. If we go thru his series wise bowling records below 30 avg: series

are vrey rare for some body who played 77 tests.

[goose]

Srinath/Prasad were unlucky. Ishant is crap.

Edited March 22, 2017 by goose

[Adi_91]

Even the bounce dependent Aussie bowlers are doing better than this guy. Are there no bowlers really to replace this guy? 

 

In no team, will this piece of nothing find a place. 

[Silva]

I am no expert but i think maybe he only does well on seaming wickets because it forces batsman to play those wide deliveries he always bowls becaue they might seam into the right handed batsman. Otherwise on non seaming wickts batsman can just leave those deliveries alone without much thought. Even look at where he has picked up wickets its usually on pitches that offer seam movement.

[asterix]

Missed Ishu in the line up today.

I'm sure Aussies too missed him. What a stellar performance in the series so far. Should've played.

[goose]

What a difference when ALL your bowlers can take wickets. Not only is Ishant **** but when selected he gets a full quota out of deference.

[sarcastic]

4 hours ago, goose said:

What a difference when ALL your bowlers can take wickets. Not only is Ishant **** but when selected he gets a full quota out of deference.

Bhuvaneshwar Kumar has not done any better than Ishant Sharma would have done. Picked up a solitary tail-end batsman when everything is more or less over for Australia... 

 

On 3/22/2017 at 5:16 AM, goose said:

Srinath/Prasad were unlucky. Ishant is crap.

Really? Can we look at real stats and make this assessment. 

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?bowling_pacespin=1;class=1;filter=advanced;orderby=wickets;qualmin1=80;qualval1=wickets;team=6;template=results;type=bowling

 

Ishant is a tad lesser than Srinath or Venky in terms of stats. They have not significantly done better than Ishant in terms of strike rate or wickets per innings. I agree however that Ishant picks his wickets at a higher average. 


 

On 3/21/2017 at 8:36 AM, Texan said:

This is the biggest problem. He takes a grand total of one wicket in the entire match and instead of castigating him for a poor match, that one wicket becomes a model for his potential.

 

"If only he can bowl like this throughout the match....." becomes the flavor of the conversation. But then, he can't and after almost 80 Tests, you don't expect that he will learn something he didn't learn during all those Tests. 

 

Ishant Sharma is by far, the worst cricketer to have played Test cricket for such a long duration. In that aspect, he is the luckiest cricketer ever. There, I said it. Not unlucky, but lucky... in fact, luckiest!

There is no doubt that Ishant has not done well to preserve his place in the playing XI in this series. But he is far from being done given his tremendous improvement in overseas record. He has lot to offer on bouncy tracks abroad where his perfect seam presentation might help us pick impactful wickets. Without Renshaw's wicket on Day 4 in the second test, India could not have imagined to win the solitary test match. 

Yes, Ishant is not as good as he was initially hyped up, but he is not that bad if guided properly and given some county experience (now that he is not playing IPL) will do a world of good for him and team India in the coming years. No body has lost their places because Ishant has played so many matches. Ishant deserved the chances he got and will get more chances provided he proves himself further in the domestics. 

 

Edited March 25, 2017 by sarcastic

[goose]

i sincerely hope your post was inspired by your name. that was laughable from start to finish

[Vk1]

If i were ishant I would play county cricket every year. But ishant being ishant he has other ideas 

[Ankit_sharma03]

3 hours ago, Vk1 said:

If i were ishant I would play county cricket every year. But ishant being ishant he has other ideas 

No need to play every year 1-2 season are enough but he hasnt even done that