SELVAM Posted November 28, 2016 Posted November 28, 2016 Is Ravichandran ashwin most successful indian Test cricketer ever? http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/records/283469.html tweaker 1
SELVAM Posted November 28, 2016 Author Posted November 28, 2016 Muralidharan,kallis,imrankhan,hadlee,warne only above 5 cricketers hav more man of the series awards than ashwin tweaker 1
Sandeep99 Posted November 28, 2016 Posted November 28, 2016 In which way? Fame? Money? Wickets? Runs? There is more than one way to answer this question. But yes, he is proving to be one of the most impactful players. Hope he goes on and on and on.. (and replicate the success in overseas too, he is capable!) Laaloo and Cricketics 2
Vilander Posted November 28, 2016 Posted November 28, 2016 MVP for India, looks like may be edging Kohli out as his lower order batting is saving out arse too many times these days combined with his obvious importance for us bowling. Basically VVS+ Harbhajan thats a lot. sourab10forever, Sandeep99, AuxiliA and 4 others 7
sourab10forever Posted November 28, 2016 Posted November 28, 2016 33 minutes ago, Vilander said: MVP for India, looks like may be edging Kohli out as his lower order batting is saving out arse too many times these days combined with his obvious importance for us bowling. Basically VVS+ Harbhajan thats a lot. I would say more like Kumble+Dhoni(the test batsmen). Main spinner and the main lower middle order batsmen. express bowling and SUMO 2
Laaloo Posted November 28, 2016 Posted November 28, 2016 Add another MOS to the list after this series is done express bowling, New guy and Bystander 3
gakgupta Posted November 28, 2016 Posted November 28, 2016 One more MOM award around the corner Sent from my XT1068 using Tapatalk
gakgupta Posted November 28, 2016 Posted November 28, 2016 Muralidharan,kallis,imrankhan,hadlee,warne only above 5 cricketers hav more man of the series awards than ashwin Ashwin being the allrounder helping big time Sent from my XT1068 using Tapatalk
gakgupta Posted November 28, 2016 Posted November 28, 2016 Add another MOS to the list after this series is done Bhajji will be furious to know this Sent from my XT1068 using Tapatalk
Vilander Posted November 28, 2016 Posted November 28, 2016 1 hour ago, sourab10forever said: I would say more like Kumble+Dhoni(the test batsmen). Main spinner and the main lower middle order batsmen. Agreed a little less than VVS in batting and a little more than Harbhajan in bowling. sourab10forever 1
punjabi_khota Posted November 28, 2016 Posted November 28, 2016 >Agreed a little less than VVS in batting have you lost your mind ?
MCcricket Posted November 28, 2016 Posted November 28, 2016 Top ranked allrounder n bowler currently , can bat, bowl even field now lol, team player n a fighter. His batting is more like VVS good timer n has a good eye n decent technique but good balance, only thing now for him is to prove his mettle overseas n he will do that. He will be a all time great by the time he retires, India's Murali n Azhar all in one, also he has batted well all over which even some good Indian batsmen haven't done , like Rahane in India, Ganguly in Australia, SA.
Vilander Posted November 28, 2016 Posted November 28, 2016 43 minutes ago, punjabi_khota said: >Agreed a little less than VVS in batting have you lost your mind ? he is lesser than VVS for sure, just plays on drive in a similar fashion and is uniquely nonathletic like him.
Vilander Posted November 28, 2016 Posted November 28, 2016 you mean he is a lot lesser, yup thats right. VVS is proper batsman 50+ FC average if i am not wrong, thats a given.
velu Posted November 28, 2016 Posted November 28, 2016 soon he will be equaling imran khan in half the number of games and series played
gattaca Posted November 28, 2016 Posted November 28, 2016 3 hours ago, velu said: soon he will be equaling imran khan in half the number of games and series played He might be equal but imran had a secret weapon that Ashwin doesn't posses.
Mariyam Posted November 29, 2016 Posted November 29, 2016 The second big grouse that I have with ICF is that all these proclamations of greatest ever are supported by random statistical data. It doesn't capture the more important stuff, like the relevance of an innings. eg: A player could have scored a 170 in a non pressure situation batting first and another could have scored a 40 when 50/6 to lead his team to a win etc. All time greatness is to be measured with moments of magic on the pitch, not from a printout of averages.
fineleg Posted November 29, 2016 Posted November 29, 2016 11 minutes ago, Mariyam said: The second big grouse that I have with ICF is that all these proclamations of greatest ever are supported by random statistical data. It doesn't capture the more important stuff, like the relevance of an innings. eg: A player could have scored a 170 in a non pressure situation batting first and another could have scored a 40 when 50/6 to lead his team to a win etc. All time greatness is to be measured with moments of magic on the pitch, not from a printout of averages. Yep. Which is why Sehwag and Kapil Dev are legends and ATG.
coffee_rules Posted November 29, 2016 Posted November 29, 2016 (edited) ille, kanna.. Edited November 29, 2016 by coffee_rules
Detonator Posted November 29, 2016 Posted November 29, 2016 5 hours ago, Mariyam said: The second big grouse that I have with ICF is that all these proclamations of greatest ever are supported by random statistical data. It doesn't capture the more important stuff, like the relevance of an innings. eg: A player could have scored a 170 in a non pressure situation batting first and another could have scored a 40 when 50/6 to lead his team to a win etc. All time greatness is to be measured with moments of magic on the pitch, not from a printout of averages. That's not random stats, it's the number of MOS awards. You cannot win 7 awards in 14 series by being irrelevant. Vilander 1
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