India players reportedly 'intimidated' by coach Kumble

[Ultimate_Game]

This article from cricinfo does seem to show all is not well within the Indian camp and there are issues between Kumble and players. These leaks, reports and articles can't be random. There simply are too many of them out there and it can't all be smoke without fire.

 

Here's the link and also quoted the article below...

http://www.espncricinfo.com/india/content/story/1100199.html

 

India's campaign for Champions Trophy has begun under a cloud of discontent within the dressing room with the captain, and possibly a few other senior players, expressing a lack of confidence in their head coach.

Speculation had been rife ever since the BCCI chose not to automatically extend the tenure of Anil Kumble as the head coach, choosing instead to advertise the position, and it has now emerged that the decision was made following feedback from Virat Kohli about Kumble's coaching method, which he is said to have described as "intimidating".

Kumble's year-long contract expires at the end of the Champions Trophy. The development comes at less than an ideal time for India, with their first match in the Champions Trophy, against arch rivals Pakistan, just days away.

It is understood that Kohli relayed the sense of discontent to the BCCI's top office bearers as well as the Committee of Administrators (CoA) before the team left for England. He is also understood to have spoken to Sourav Ganguly, who is part of the cricket advisory panel which has been tasked with deciding the coaching option.

The players' concerns are thought to centre mainly around Kumble's man-management skills. In the words of one official familiar with the details, Kumble has been conducting himself like a "headmaster" at a school. Such an approach, the official said, "had not gone down well" with the players who are used to a more relaxed dressing room. Some players - not the bigger personalities like Kohli or MS Dhoni - have felt "a bit intimidated" by Kumble's approach.

Such has been the approach, the official said, that some of the injuries that have ruled players out during Kumble's tenure were not strictly cricket related. "Kumble was pushing hard. The bulk of them [injuries] are non-cricketing injuries. One of the players was stressed out. So the team is not a happy lot."

What has surprised the BCCI is that Kumble has failed to read these concerns. The official said that the reason Kumble has been successful was because "the team has been successful" playing cricket mostly at home. "The way the cricket set-up works in India is the coach is not the king. So the coach has to understand that."

Based on the player feedback, the BCCI decided that the time to "change" had come and the "best" way to move forward was to put in place an advertisement inviting fresh applications. The official admitted that the timing was not ideal - the advertisement went out on the day Indian squad arrived in London to defend the Champions Trophy, and applications for the job close on the eve of the tournament opener - but he said the process had to followed.

The most telling public comments came from Kohli, who said last week he did not find anything untoward with what the BCCI was doing. "The process has been followed every single time the similar way in Indian cricket for the past so many years is what I know," Kohli said at his first media briefing upon landing in England. "Even the last time the post was up for a change the same procedure was applied. With the term being one year, the procedure is being followed in the same manner. I don't see anything very different from what has happened in the past. That is something the board has recognised. They want to follow the same pattern."

Kohli was equivocal in his response to the success India have had under Kumble. "When you have results come your way, the contribution is from every part of the team," he said. "It is not from a single source to say the least. Everyone works hard equally if not more than the other person."

Kumble has not yet spoken publicly about the situation. He is, however, bound to be disappointed considering India have only lost one series in any format under his charge: the two-match Twenty20 series in Florida against West Indies last August. Kumble has also been front and centre in talks with the BCCI over enhancing the contracts not just of the national team's players but also domestic players and Indian coaching staff.

The situation also puts three other Indian legends in an awkward position. It was only last June that Kumble was nominated by the three-man cricket advisory panel comprising his contemporaries, Sachin Tendulkar, Sourav Ganguly and VVS Laxman; Kumble wasn't in the original shortlist of candidates the BCCI had finalised because he had no formal coaching experience. But it was at the panel's insistence that he was put in. And now they have to go through the process again; it isn't yet known if Kumble will go through the process again. Ganguly is currently in England, doing television commentary for the official broadcaster of the Champions Trophy.

At the time of Kumble's appointment, the BCCI made out the contract for only a year saying that would give Kumble time to prove his coaching credentials. The former BCCI president Anurag Thakur had said that a review would be carried out after one year. Incidentally, Ajay Shirke, who was the BCCI secretary last June, had said that when the review was done, Kumble should find himself in the "driver's seat" considering India were playing a long home season comprising 13 Tests and a couple of ODI series. Kumble might not be holding the steering wheel anymore.

[Deleted_User_1]

yeh ka chewtiyapa hain bhai? intimidated???? Phuck de Indians need to be disciplined like school kids otherwise they tend to slack and get more complacent. bunch of phucktards!!

Edited May 30, 2017 by dandaroy

[Masquerade]

Cricinfo generally only publishes these sort of articles if they genuinely believe it's true, so that's concerning. 

 

 

[Cricketics]

If he intimidated them then fine, currently things seem to be all right.Anyways, to be number 1 you need coach to not always talk good things to them but also intimidate you so he can pump you up and make you want to show him that you got it in you to survive at the international level.

 

Piss poor media folks. Should concentrate on CT.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Ultimate_Game]

25 minutes ago, Masquerade said:

Cricinfo generally only publishes these sort of articles if they genuinely believe it's true, so that's concerning. 

 

 

That's what I feel. Cricinfo doesn't publish tabloid articles. Something definitely doesn't look right and players or the BCCI really want Kumble gone ASAP.

[WC2011INDIA]

Hmmmm....is that the reason why the mumbai brigade is performing poorly? they can't handle pressure and intimidation that's why such piss poor batting of late..

[Ultimate_Game]

15 minutes ago, WC2011INDIA said:

Hmmmm....is that the reason why the mumbai brigade is performing poorly? they can't handle pressure and intimidation that's why such piss poor batting of late..

As if Rahane was piling centuries before Kumble  

[WC2011INDIA]

4 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said:

As if Rahane was piling centuries before Kumble  

He was bad before....now he is just plain god awful. Worst thing ever. Rohit was atleast great in 1st innings, but now he is really bad. Clearly, Kumble has to do with it!

Edited May 30, 2017 by WC2011INDIA

[Ultimate_Game]

1 minute ago, WC2011INDIA said:

He was bad before....now he is just plain god awful. Worst thing ever. Clearly, Kumble has to do with it!

Nobody deserves to be blamed for Rahane's ineptitude in shorter formats. The guy has been shyte for years and in domestic shorter formats as well.

[Vilander]

1 hour ago, Ultimate_Game said:

That's what I feel. Cricinfo doesn't publish tabloid articles. Something definitely doesn't look right and players or the BCCI really want Kumble gone ASAP.

Cricinfo is anti India biased, so i have no respect for them.

[Khota]

I dont see anything wrong in intimidating. What do players want? Hugs and touchy feely stuff. Good for Kumble he did that.

[Pollack]

Just now, Khota said:

I dont see anything wrong in intimidating. What do players want? Hugs and touchy feely stuff. Good for Kumble he did that.

Players want those who would allow them freedom. In other words coach who would do nothing other than just collect his salary. No wonder Duncan Fletcher was given thumbs up. Ravi Shashtri is in good books.

[BeautifulGame]

Captain is the king in Indian set up .If Kohli isn't happy with Kumble it's either Kumble amends his ways of we part ways with  him.Doeant matter who is right.Find a coach Kohli is comfortable with.

 

No one wants another Ganguly -Chapell saga again.

[Pollack]

2 hours ago, WC2011INDIA said:

Hmmmm....is that the reason why the mumbai brigade is performing poorly? they can't handle pressure and intimidation that's why such piss poor batting of late..

Lots of jealousy for Mumbai. Burn. Burn.

The reason for Mumbai brigade not performing is simple- They are not good enough. Both Rohit and Rahane (only in LOI) are awful batsmen. Hopefully a better batsman gets to Indian team in future from Mumbai and the burn continues.

 

[Trichromatic]

21 minutes ago, Khota said:

I dont see anything wrong in intimidating. What do players want? Hugs and touchy feely stuff. Good for Kumble he did that.

Nothing wrong with this even if it is true?

 

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Such has been the approach, the official said, that some of the injuries that have ruled players out during Kumble's tenure were not strictly cricket related. "Kumble was pushing hard. The bulk of them [injuries] are non-cricketing injuries. One of the players was stressed out. So the team is not a happy lot." 
 

If  most of the injuries are due to non-cricketing reasons, then it is a serious concern?

 

Who lost out because of stress? 

 

If the players are complaining about this then BCCI should enquire and in case it is true, action should be taken. Having tough approach is one thing, but forcing players so that they lose out because of non-cricketing reason is really dangerous.

[Khota]

THis is one side of the story.

[Trichromatic]

3 minutes ago, Khota said:

THis is one side of the story.

Yes that's why board needs to enquire how true is it. It's not good to dismiss players' concerns as just being soft. They are also professional and worked hard to reach this level. They are not in team with just being lazy that coach needs to school them. In fact most of current generation players are good athletes and probably know better about their requirements. If something is putting them to risk of injury for unrelated reasons, then team, support staff and board needs to look into this. 

 

It can't be said for sure that Kumble is best guy to judge fitness regime and activities of the players. He is part of the generation when methods were completely different and he has no coaching experience either. In this case he needs to incorporate inputs from players and support staff. If he is unable to do so then it is very risky.

 

Maybe he is right, but if team is not happy then something is not ok. 

 

He is not coaching some 5th graders.

 

[CG]

If  most of the injuries are due to non-cricketing reasons, then it is a serious concern?

 

Who lost out because of stress? 

 

If the players are complaining about this then BCCI should enquire and in case it is true, action should be taken. Having tough approach is one thing, but forcing players so that they lose out because of non-cricketing reason is really dangerous.

Let's look at major injury last year Kohli ,Rohit had shoulder dislocations ,Ashwin hernia.So Article is bullshit.

[diga]

3 hours ago, WC2011INDIA said:

Hmmmm....is that the reason why the mumbai brigade is performing poorly? they can't handle pressure and intimidation that's why such piss poor batting of late..

Haha... Wasnt it Kumble who pushed Mumbai Indians to appoint Rohit as the captain?

[Number]

Looks like someone is really after Kumble now. All of a sudden so many articles coming out putting him in bad light.

He has been the head coach for a year and nothing of this sort surfaced earlier. 

Edited May 31, 2017 by Number