SecondSlip Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 I seriously feel that we let a golden opportunity of going 2-0 up slip out of our hands all due to our own fault. velu, UrmiSinhaRay, express bowling and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment
sensible-indian Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 We would have won in Centurion, Edgbaston and Southampton with 2 spinners. And with Jaddu and Kuldeep here in Perth, we would have run Aussies close atleast. Real McCoy and velu 2 Link to comment
R!TTER Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 No, we needed better batting & bowling. Our only chance, batting 2nd here, was if we bowled out Aus for under 300 in the first & 200 in the second innings. We needed better openers as well as tail to be assured of a win. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
sensible-indian Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 (edited) Playing 2 spinners in Lord's wasn't a wrong move either. 1. First we made a mistake of selecting Kuldeep ahead of Jaddu who would have been tight. 2. Lord's would have spun later on but our batting was so pathetic that we didn't even last till the pitch took turn. The only place where 2 spinners (or even a single spinner) was not needed was Joberg. But then Pandya was a total passenger there with a grand total of 4 runs (across 2 innings) and bowling 8 overs across 2 innings. So the 5th bowler would have been irrelevant there regardless of who we picked (not that I am saying we shouldn't have gone with the 5th bowler). Edited December 18, 2018 by sensible-indian Link to comment
Pollack Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Win or lose doesn't matter. Jaddeja or Kuldeep should have replaced Ashwin. velu and Real McCoy 2 Link to comment
Oldhere Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Most of the matches for India have been close due to a good group of pacers and i for one dont think that having 2 spinners would have helped us. I wouldnt have played Jaddu considering Aussies have 7 Lefties and i have seen multiple times that our spinners wont have the same impact as say a Aussie spinner. So, dont go by the theory that our spinner would have also performed brilliantly ala Lyon. Only problem this test was openers and Umesh. Bhuvi would have helped us with batting as well a better control but spinner dont think would have helped. Frustrated 1 Link to comment
flamy Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Kuldeep would have been good Link to comment
R!TTER Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Kuldeep is not in the scheme of things, he's only there because the selectors have picked him. Kohli won't play him as long as Ashwin's there & yeah I know about Lord's blunder, that's on Koach as well. Link to comment
Frustrated Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Kuldeep should be picked only if he knew little bit of batting. Otherwise we will have the same old problem of a long tail. Link to comment
goose Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 what the f%ck happened to just selecting your best XI regardless of the conditions? your best players adapt to the wicket. Jadeja has been on the circuit a long time. has hit rock bottom and come through the other side. ditto Bhuvi. FFS Sgattick10 1 Link to comment
Khota Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Would have done better but the problem was the openers. Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Might have still lost the game, but 140 runs margin was way too big. Link to comment
sandeep Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 6 hours ago, R!TTER said: No, we needed better batting & bowling. Our only chance, batting 2nd here, was if we bowled out Aus for under 300 in the first & 200 in the second innings. We needed better openers as well as tail to be assured of a win. Jaddu in Umesh's spot would have easily reduced Aus 1st innings total by 40 odd runs. And reduced the deficit if you factor in any runs from his batting. Link to comment
gattaca Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 1 minute ago, sandeep said: Jaddu in Umesh's spot would have easily reduced Aus 1st innings total by 40 odd runs. And reduced the deficit if you factor in any runs from his batting. Weren’t you against spinner when I talked about it ? Link to comment
sandeep Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 34 minutes ago, gattaca said: Weren’t you against spinner when I talked about it ? You seem to have confused me with someone else. I was pushing for jaddu well before the game started, ahead of even Bhuvi - a player i'm super biased about - because I wanted a spinner in the XI for Perth. Link to comment
Cricketics Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 No because more than bowling scoring runs was the issue. People need to put that in their head. We lost by over 150 runs. If batsman don’t acore runs, then you can’t win. Our openers did not add any runs in both the innjgns. Thats like 4 cheap wickets in the game to aussies from our top order. You can’t win like that even if you have world class bowlers. Link to comment
rtmohanlal Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 (edited) the only scope to win the series by winning the remaining 2 games is to take high risks . For a start , now that it is clear that this team can't bat at all , the way forward is to fill players who can put runs as much as possible. Similarly spinners need to played(play to our strengths than that of opponents). Kuldeep & Jadeja should be played. Edited December 18, 2018 by rtmohanlal Link to comment
Khota Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 4 hours ago, Cricketics said: No because more than bowling scoring runs was the issue. People need to put that in their head. We lost by over 150 runs. If batsman don’t acore runs, then you can’t win. Our openers did not add any runs in both the innjgns. Thats like 4 cheap wickets in the game to aussies from our top order. You can’t win like that even if you have world class bowlers. This ^^^^ x10000. Runs were the issue and openers in particular. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 We lost by 140 runs, jaddu wnt have made much diff Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 28 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: We lost by 140 runs, jaddu wnt have made much diff Difference doesn't decrease linearly. A 40 runs lead translateso to 70 runs in 4th inning. With Jadeja India would have easily saved 30-40 runs in first inning, 15-20 runs in 2nd inning, probably added 15-20 extra in first inning. Chasing 200-210 could have been completely different scenario. India might have lost even then, but then mentality is different. Having said that all these are could have, would have been scenarios even though something similar happened in first test. Link to comment
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