Will "Ro-Dho" make opposition fans cry, or their own, this WC?

[sandeep]

Discuss.

[Ankit_sharma03]

nothing to worry, this happens 

Come Wc they ll stepup specially dhawan

[SK_IH]

Haha good one.both are infuriating for sure

[zen]

Tuktuk Sharma

[Pollack]

Dhawan will be back in form in WC, I think. Not sure about Rohit.

[coffee_rules]

RoDho DhaYudu Weakest link in the team. 

[sergio04]

throw out Rohit and dhoni

but Rayudu is a class player...

he will be man of the tournament in WC

[Vilander]

28 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

RoDho DhaYudu Weakest link in the team. 

thats not weak link. thats just weak team.

[maniac]

1 hour ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

nothing to worry, this happens 

Come Wc they ll stepup specially dhawan

Why do you keep saying that? WC will not have different rules. I understand if you say a player is good fit for a certain condition or will do well against a certain team, have some science behind this but I find it stupid when someone says oh it is ICC World Cup, Dhawan will suck till then but miraculously will start hitting 100s.

 

Look it might still happen but that will be because Dhawan finding form but you cannot carry a guy who has been failing for a long time saying that he will do well in a tournament that he did well before. That is dumb. That is unfair to the others who have been performing at all levels waiting for a shot and a chance to prove themselves. 

[Ankit_sharma03]

5 minutes ago, maniac said:

Why do you keep saying that? WC will not have different rules. I understand if you say a player is good fit for a certain condition or will do well against a certain team, have some science behind this but I find it stupid when someone says oh it is ICC World Cup, Dhawan will suck till then but miraculously will start hitting 100s.

coz its proven and look at dhawan record in england 

thrice he has done it

5 minutes ago, maniac said:

 

Look it might still happen but that will be because Dhawan finding form but you cannot carry a guy who has been failing for a long time saying that he will do well in a tournament that he did well before. That is dumb. That is unfair to the others who have been performing at all levels waiting for a shot and a chance to prove themselves. 

its not been long , he was batting very well in Aus t20 , made 1-2 scores in NZ

 

People are talking here as if he is failing for 1-2 yrs 

[zen]

1 hour ago, maniac said:

Look it might still happen but that will be because Dhawan finding form but you cannot carry a guy who has been failing for a long time saying that he will do well in a tournament that he did well before. 

Some players have a knack of doing well in pressure situations. Gilly for example used to switch on his game in knock outs .... Dhawan appears to be a similar player .... Gets off the blocks quickly so that allows him to play relatively freely (under less pressure) as well .... In such events, you also play different teams so the ability to adjust well quickly is important, which can be a hard thing to do for many, and Dhawan has shown to be one of the players who can do that   

 

But I agree that for a car to run, it should be in good working condition .... which is why Dhawan is given chances to find such form 

Edited March 8, 2019 by zen

[beetle]

If dhawan  has a bad ipl,he should not be taken for WC.

Ufff...bahut hua gabber ka zulm.

[MechEng]

Whenever Rohit does tuk tuk, it is the calm before a storm. A big 200 or maybe 300 is coming up next soon with Rohit hitting helpless medium pacers into third tier.

Edited March 8, 2019 by MechEng

[R!TTER]

1 hour ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

coz its proven and look at dhawan record in england 

thrice he has done it

its not been long , he was batting very well in Aus t20 , made 1-2 scores in NZ

 

People are talking here as if he is failing for 1-2 yrs 

No that does not happen, you don't go cold in the biggest pressure cooker tournament & start smacking hundreds for fun! Dhawan also has an atrocious record in tests btw lest you've forgotten that. Even the greatest LO players ever needed some form before WC, like Hayden in VB tri series 2007 & away series vs NZ. He was about to be dropped in that tri series, IIRC Vettori dropped his catch & then he scored some 1200 odd runs in 20 odd innings after that, came awfully close to beating SRT's WC record runs tally as well. He was out of form & the Aussie juggernaut could carry him, we have no such luxury!

Edited March 8, 2019 by R!TTER

[Ankit_sharma03]

3 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

No that does not happen, you don't go cold in the biggest pressure cooker tournament & start smacking hundreds for fun!

Did that in 2015 WC and 2017 CT and was even in worst form 

3 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

Dhawan also has an atrocious record in tests btw lest you've forgotten that.

so are we going play with red duke ball their ....no na 

3 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

Even the greatest LO players ever needed some form before WC, like Hayden in VB tri series 2007 & away series vs NZ. He was abut to be dropped in that tri series, IIRC Vettori dropped his catch & then he cored some 1200 odd runs in 20 odd innings after that, came awfully close to beating SRT's WC record runs tally as well. He was out of form & the Aussie juggernaut could carry him, we have no such luxury!

Form is just a matter of one inning

yuvi was not in form before 2011 Wc

Dhawan - out of form before 2015WC n 2017CT ....infact was in way worst form 

Indian bating was in horrible form before 2003 Wc due to NZ 2002 tour 

[Tibarn]

Flatter ICC tournament tracks and having the IPL to work out kinks in form should help the openers get into form by the WC. 

 

Dhoni will only be useful in certain circumstances. 

 

Rayudu may need to go, but, being so close to the WC, it will be difficult to drop him...

[maniac]

1 minute ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Did that in 2015 WC and 2017 CT and was even in worst form 

so are we going play with red duke ball their ....no na 

Form is just a matter of one inning

yuvi was not in form before 2011 Wc

Dhawan - out of form before 2015WC n 2017CT ....infact was in way worst form 

Indian bating was in horrible form before 2003 Wc due to NZ 2002 tour 

Again you don’t play teams on sentiments and superstitions. There is a science involved. You play with the best team possible.

 

How is it fair for a hungry and performing player to be left out for someone who is playing on a superstition or history rather than actual numbers.

 

That is the problem why Indian team in its best era has still not been like the invincible WI and Australia

[Ankit_sharma03]

Just now, maniac said:

Again you don’t play teams on sentiments and superstitions. There is a science involved. You play with the best team possible.

i knw their is nothing certain but u have trust these guys to do it, these are top players 

Just now, maniac said:

How is it fair for a hungry and performing player to be left out for someone who is playing on a superstition or history rather than actual numbers.

who is left out for whom?

Just now, maniac said:

That is the problem why Indian team in its best era has still not been like the invincible WI and Australia

those guys have also backed players struggling for form

u back top players unless they have lost it .....

 

has dhawan or rohit lost on age or fitness - No

Has it been years since they have made runs - NO

 

These are top players and need backing. This is what my problem is with people thinking every day a player will score. Every cricketer has had struggling phases . U back ur top players 

[R!TTER]

What if he flops in the IPL as well? He should be in the top 3 for sure, but why not open with KL if one or both openers are flopping consistently?

3 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Did that in 2015 WC and 2017 CT and was even in worst form 

so are we going play with red duke ball their ....no na 

Form is just a matter of one inning

yuvi was not in form before 2011 Wc

Dhawan - out of form before 2015WC n 2017CT ....infact was in way worst form 

Indian bating was in horrible form before 2003 Wc due to NZ 2002 tour 

Not this bad a rut.

 

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It's not confirmed yet but the WC could be played with white dukes, just like 1999 IIRC.

 

Yuvraj was injured in the SA series, also we played that one at home.

 

Yes the pitches were like the worst ever, but it helped us marginally in SA. I say marginally because we were crushed by Aus twice, on a road at Joburg & relatively flat pitch at Centurion.

[zen]

Considering Tuktuk and Dhawan have regressed, it could be hard to play both. If I have to pick one, may be start the 11 with Dhawan so he can find some form as at least he has an awesome ICC record (type of player who adjusts well to the demands of such tourneys)