Bhuvneshwar need not sacrifice speed for getting swing: Bowling coach B.Arun

[SLICKR392]

Kid was better off without the pace. Ruined him! 

[maniac]

Kid was better off without the pace. Ruined him! 

Whatt he just had 1.5 good series...the one against pak and half a series in England...apart from the odd 1 or 2 decent but nothing remarkable spells in other games.....that is what comes with being a trundler.....good for him to see the writing on the wall and increase his pace and yes,he has some talent...Pace+Skills will make him a class act or else it is back to the dump.....so I am really impressed with Bhuvi making an effort

[MechEng]

Just imagine what would have happened if you had bowled at 5 kph. ...360 deg swing and back at the stumps    

If we bowl at 0 kph, the ball will keep swinging until it spirals into infinity. 

[MechEng]

Bhuvaneshwar Kumar must bowl what puts him 'in the zone', priority is to pick up wickets. 

[MCcricket]

I doubt he will ever be a strike Bowler in tests, maybe third seamer in U.K or NZ

[Vilander]

I think he ment, Bhuv can not sacrifice any more speed if he wants to get the ball near the stumps.

[Ankit_sharma03]

I doubt he will ever be a strike Bowler in tests, maybe third seamer in U.K or NZ

HE is gud for ODi n T20 format 

test i doubt

HE doesnt have the pace to reverse the ball, he can only be handy if he bowls in 1st innings or at most 2nd , 3rd 4th i srsly doubt specially wen pitches becomes easy to bat .

Doubt he ll b effective wen a kookabura gets old. with new yes for sure. Aus pitches have already become road. Ill rather prefer a bowler who has more skills and can bowl any time in with kookabura balls

With duke balls its diff story they swing a lot n in eng its swing whole day n can start to swing any time .HE can b effective in Eng n he was even

With sg ball Ill rather Prefer umesh shami aaron Ishant or someone quick. as SG start to reverse soon n it does reverse a lot. Even if these guys cant buy wickets. With their pace they can scuff up the ball easy n make the footmarks for spinner much effectively n It become difficult adjust to their speed after playing spinner n also once the bounce become unvariable they r far more dangerous .

In test Cricket only In eng 

In Odi n t20 ill wud like to have him if he gets his swing back . 

[doccricket]

It is possible to swing the ball conventionally at 140 k+. We have seen Shane Bond, Brett Lee, Allan Donald etc. do it. The swing that results is late swing and far more difficult for the batsman to play.

One thing that often happens is that the position of the ball immediately after release  gets disturbed when a pacer wants to bowl quicker than he normally does ...resulting in less swing or even seam movement.

In Bhuvi's case that is not happening. His seam position is still very good. After his speed increase, he has just bowled in conditions not conducive to swing and hence has not swung the ball.

I am sure he would get swing where there is some available.

Kudos to Bharti Arun for stating this. 

Here is a young pace bowler trying to improve himself by working hard and becoming quicker and Manjrekar and co. are criticizing him without even waiting to see what results he is producing after a couple of series of bowling at higher pace. These guys are are so negative.

It is possible that Kohli has encouraged Bhuvi to become quicker and practice bowling some high bouncers.

Bhuvi, with his accuracy, excellent seam position, skid off the pitch and swing... can be a handful if he can bowl 135 to 142 k with occasional good bouncers ( which he has shown he can bowl ).

good post

but is b.arun gud coach in bowling

[express bowling]

good post

but is b.arun gud coach in bowling

I don't really have any specific feedback about how Bharat Arun  is as a bowling coach. 

From his interviews and statements it seems that he wants his pacers to gain control without losing pace. That is a big plus for me.

Another plus point with Arun is that, he should understand the psyche, situations and problems of our pacers better than a foreign coach. He has been a coach with the NCA  for quite some time and that experience should help.

A great player is not necessarily a great coach and vice-versa.

Ishant has improved in his tenure and Aaron is showing signs of improvement too. BK has gained pace. Umesh has not become better at all.

In a nutshell ...inferring from results and statements...he has done a decent job.

There could be better options though. Donald has been very good as a bowling coach and has loads of international cricket experience...and there are others like him. 

Donald as head bowling coach and Arun as assistant-coach might be a very good combo.

Edited November 22, 2015 by express bowling

[MCcricket]

Ok will have to agree Bhuvi has worked hard and added a yard to his medium pace and bowled ok, he seemed rather poor compared to all other pacers in the match, can he bowl n hit good areas with intensity accuracy and build a spell, for me he bowled poorly on a track where all pacers were bowling menacingly and got one wkt which was a batsmen error n inside edge n that is a worrying sign also his batting was a let down, for me we should start looking at impact bowlers , see what Cummins did, get in Kulwant, Aniket, Sangwan.

[Forever Indian]

He is similar to Hazlewood in that both rely on swing. This deck certainly did not have much swing, it was mostly seam and hence Bhuvi and Hazlewood both didn't do as much as Cummins and Umesh. Still Bhuvi had two drops off Warner and the important wicket of Smith.

 

I am sure he will be important with the overseas tours coming up.

[speedheat]

Sanju is the crappiest commie we have ever had,bk is a smart bowler though he won't be listening to these retards because last time when he went back to that 125/130 kph range he was butchered by abdv and co.

[Pollack]

Yeh Ishant bigad Raha Hai Bhuvi ko!

[putrevus]

Hazelwood relies more on seam movement than swing and hits the deck hard. Bhuvi is medium pacer who if he bowls 20 overs in day will start bowling under 120 k. Bhuvi should be part of this team but he should play as a specialist on decks or conditions which suit him.

Edited March 28, 2017 by putrevus

[sandeep]

1 hour ago, MCcricket said:

Ok will have to agree Bhuvi has worked hard and added a yard to his medium pace and bowled ok, he seemed rather poor compared to all other pacers in the match, can he bowl n hit good areas with intensity accuracy and build a spell, for me he bowled poorly on a track where all pacers were bowling menacingly and got one wkt which was a batsmen error n inside edge n that is a worrying sign also his batting was a let down, for me we should start looking at impact bowlers , see what Cummins did, get in Kulwant, Aniket, Sangwan.

Did you watch him bowl in the match?  He would have had Warner for a golden duck in the 1st innings and dismissed him on his 8th ball in the 2nd.   And he knocked Warner on his ass with a mean bouncer.  Softening him up for Umesh to apply the coup de grace.  Wickets don't always tell the entire story with bowlers.  Sure, there's room for improvement but Bhuvi is one of the greatest threats we have - a guy who can move the ball both ways - you just don't seem to realize how valuable that is.  

[Lannister]

Unfortunately he's playing for the wrong team, he should shift to England where his skills are more suited to bowl. Sadly I don't see him performing well on hard wickets which is the usual norm in majority of Test playing nations. 

[Vilander]

On 11/15/2015 at 0:13 PM, Rightarmfast said:

Aur agar wo speed sacsrifice kiya , to bas underarm hi karna baaki reh jayega!

lol he should have speed to sacrifice it.

[Mosher]

2 hours ago, Pollack said:

Yeh Ishant bigad Raha Hai Bhuvi ko!

Keep spearhead away from the good boys of our team. 

[King Tendulkar]

Have to say bk massively improved in this test 

 

clearly been told get stoneger and quicker if want to play for this india . Looked like been working out body wise , powered up a bit 

 

he was clocking up to 89 mph . Unheard of for bk and did this in second spells as well 

 

has again Indian think tank got a change in one of its bowlers .

 

never interested in bk for tests . Suddenly maybe one to watch . He swing at 85 mph plus , potential serious weapon 

 

lad may have worked hard and we may see rewards 

[sandeep]

13 minutes ago, King Tendulkar said:

Have to say bk massively improved in this test 

 

clearly been told get stoneger and quicker if want to play for this india . Looked like been working out body wise , powered up a bit 

 

he was clocking up to 89 mph . Unheard of for bk and did this in second spells as well 

 

has again Indian think tank got a change in one of its bowlers .

 

never interested in bk for tests . Suddenly maybe one to watch . He swing at 85 mph plus , potential serious weapon 

 

lad may have worked hard and we may see rewards 

Welcome to the Bhuvi fan club.  Plenty of room for late comers!