Ankit_sharma03 Posted May 14, 2017 Posted May 14, 2017 Just now, beetle said: You asked a question if he is looking better...the answer is yes ...i.e if wkts matter more than speed gun readings. We are discussing performance in ipl right now. Right? Thats the thing that talent shudnt be spotted like this CRicket is a simple game For a bowler simple look how he bowls, what he bowls, what is his skill set. So simple watch the ball not stats So by that logic thampi one yorker look better than all these trundler any delivery in IPL. Avesh khan 1st ball to samson.....none of the unadkat sandeep have been able to bowl a single ball like that which made u say who is this guy Agar talent spotting stats se hi hota to har paper padhne wala selector hota......right????? MCcricket, Mosher, tweaker and 1 other 4
beetle Posted May 14, 2017 Posted May 14, 2017 Sran can't get a match in srh. Kulwant was not considered good enough to play . Nathu hasn't played 3 games in a row. Sangwan hasn't set the field on fire. Aniket ..well he hasn't earned kohli's confidence. Thampi showed promise but sprays. The two guys who have done something worth noticing are Siraj and Rajpoot. Why do you guys just hype guys based on 1-2 overs .....? Give them time . velu, BeautifulGame and MCcricket 3
express bowling Posted May 14, 2017 Posted May 14, 2017 (edited) 10 minutes ago, beetle said: Sran can't get a match in srh. Kulwant was not considered good enough to play . Nathu hasn't played 3 games in a row. Sangwan hasn't set the field on fire. Aniket ..well he hasn't earned kohli's confidence. Thampi showed promise but sprays. The two guys who have done something worth noticing are Siraj and Rajpoot. Why do you guys just hype guys based on 1-2 overs .....? Give them time . Nathu got injured after bowling really well in 2 games. Aniket C is a test prospect..... not supposed to be good in T20Is. I don't think Sangwan is an international prospect as of now. Lacks skills. Thampi's skills are being discussed by most commentators and not just ICF. Avesh showed today that being ignored by the team management does not mean a bowler is bad.....same may apply to Khejroliya. IPL performances hardly show how good a bowler is going to be in tests or ODIs and most of the pacers being discussed are thought to be either test or ODI prospects. They are being discussed in the IPL forum simply because the IPL is going on now and there guys are seen bowling to top batsmen. Edited May 14, 2017 by express bowling Laaloo, Ankit_sharma03, tweaker and 1 other 4
Forever Indian Posted May 14, 2017 Posted May 14, 2017 Also success in one season can be had by anyone. We have seen that from like of Yusuf, Asnodkar, Bisla, etc do that before. For someone who has not been known as International potential he needs to do it over a longer period.
velu Posted May 14, 2017 Posted May 14, 2017 (edited) his stock delivery is length ball Edited May 14, 2017 by velu maniac 1
beetle Posted May 14, 2017 Posted May 14, 2017 8 minutes ago, express bowling said: Nathu got injured after bowling really well in 2 games. Aniket C is a test prospect..... not supposed to be good in T20Is. I don't think Sangwan is an international prospect as of now. Lacks skills. Thampi's skills are being discussed by most commentators and not just ICF. Avesh showed today that being ignored by the team management does not mean a bowler is bad.....same may apply to Khejroliya. IPL performances hardly show how good a bowler is going to be in tests or ODIs and most of the pacers being discussed are thought to be either test or ODI prospects. They are being discussed in the IPL forum simply because the IPL is going on now and there guys are seen bowling to top batsmen. But discussed on the basis of the performance in this ipl.....?
Ankit_sharma03 Posted May 14, 2017 Posted May 14, 2017 10 minutes ago, beetle said: Sran can't get a match in srh. Kulwant was not considered good enough to play . Nathu hasn't played 3 games in a row. Sangwan hasn't set the field on fire. Aniket ..well he hasn't earned kohli's confidence. Thampi showed promise but sprays. The two guys who have done something worth noticing are Siraj and Rajpoot. Why do you guys just hype guys based on 1-2 overs .....? Give them time . Well in that case u update ur info Sran has been out from injury from an year, he has not played competitive cricket for long. So no team will risk him. He needs rhythem and we are talking about a bowler who bowled n impressed everyone on international circuit Nathu, Aniket, Thampi have already been called by kumble n kohli to train with national team few mnths. Do u think this tamasha cricket wud change their mind. Kumble already said we are looking at these bowlers Nathu have been touted by gambhir, dravid, yuvraj , mcgrath as next big thing. How many youngsters have got praise like him all around . About fitness anybody can become unfit. Hasnt bhuvi gotten unfit quite a few times in last few yrs.....am i right????? Sanghwan hasnt set IPL on fire.......again ill quote yuvraj singh from a duleep trophy game when he said keep an eye on his he really hits the deck n bat hard. Now sanghwan doesnt play for punjab. Stats may not be in his favour but commentators have been impressed with him Aniket was troubling kohli in nets, he is long format bowler. We were never touting him as LOI bowler. For that we have always named Kulwant, sanghwan , Sran Thampi has shown potential- yes coz it 1st season. Since when did we got finished product in 1st season About spray - well pace is not easy to control . Trundler have control coz they dnt pace....add pace to them their control wud go something even bhuvi suffered when he increased his pace. These guys are way faster. Also thampi has played only one season so mcgrath type perfomance were u expecting. Yet he has gotten everyone excited in cricketing circuit. How many bowlers have gottena chance to train with national squad after only playing one season. OK Now let me come to this word hype Hype- when have we said this n this guys is next akram n mcgrath or lee, bond. Never have any. If someone wud have said that was hype Spotting - Its not called its called spotting, we have just been spotting talent who can play at next level People shud understand the diff between hype n spotting . If thats the mistake we do i have put names of cricketers in bold who have done the same.....they deserve equal amount of blame In case of fast bowlers many countries have fast tracked fast bowlers rather wasting in domestic. Specially our neighbouring nations coz they share similar dead pitches. express bowling 1
express bowling Posted May 14, 2017 Posted May 14, 2017 1 minute ago, beetle said: But discussed on the basis of the performance in this ipl.....? No....discussed because these pacers may have test match or ODI potential based on their skillsets. Ankit_sharma03 1
Ankit_sharma03 Posted May 14, 2017 Posted May 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, beetle said: But discussed on the basis of the performance in this ipl.....? yes coz we have gotten a chance to see what they can do na.......unfortunately t20 is a ruthless format the likes of steyn have been smashed like anything We discuss coz we get to see their pace, bounce, control, variation , seam movement, swing , length they bowl. BCCI doesnt telecast domestic games with proper speed guns for us to have discussion
Ultimate_Game Posted May 14, 2017 Posted May 14, 2017 No. Sandeep is the guy who deserves a chance based on his consistent performances over the last 3-4 years flamy 1
MCcricket Posted May 14, 2017 Posted May 14, 2017 4 hours ago, beetle said: Sran can't get a match in srh. Kulwant was not considered good enough to play . Nathu hasn't played 3 games in a row. Sangwan hasn't set the field on fire. Aniket ..well he hasn't earned kohli's confidence. Thampi showed promise but sprays. The two guys who have done something worth noticing are Siraj and Rajpoot. Why do you guys just hype guys based on 1-2 overs .....? Give them time . It's based on potential, you have to understand or played the game or have common sense , bowlers like Unadkat r found in every local side in Australia, no pace, stamina, fitness, agression, will Bhuvi, Sandeep, Unadkunt be able to bowl a single ball like Avesh did on a flat deck?
The Realist Posted May 14, 2017 Posted May 14, 2017 Since Rayudu is no longer on the scene and cooks exclusively for Dhoni anyway, Kohli could do with a new team chef... Forever Indian 1
Cricketics Posted May 14, 2017 Posted May 14, 2017 Let him first lead Porbandar x1 to success in Junagad Premier league.
Texan Posted May 15, 2017 Posted May 15, 2017 9 hours ago, maniac said: Kaul is not a trundler...has been bowling 140k In Ranji Trophy, he was bowling 120-125. Could not breach that mark. So, how do you classify him now?
rkt.india Posted May 15, 2017 Posted May 15, 2017 He is a mental midget. Come international games and he will start bowling 125kph, has happened too many times now to take him seriously.
rkt.india Posted May 15, 2017 Posted May 15, 2017 13 minutes ago, Texan said: In Ranji Trophy, he was bowling 120-125. Could not breach that mark. So, how do you classify him now? Domestic speed guns are unreliable.
Texan Posted May 15, 2017 Posted May 15, 2017 Just now, rkt.india said: Domestic speed guns are unreliable. IPL Speed guns are also unreliable. Too many bowlers showing up as 140. The fastest ball I saw bowled by Avesh Khan was timed at only 134.
Gollum Posted May 15, 2017 Posted May 15, 2017 If he has a sex change operation, maybe in our women's side. She can be our strike bowler there along with Jhulan.
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