Cricketics Posted June 24, 2017 Posted June 24, 2017 10 minutes ago, rkt.india said: i dont have confidence even on Dhoni, Kohli in such a situation. Only miracles can win you game again big teams in such situation. Only guy I trusted in 80-4 kind of situation was Dravid, yes, one can call him whatever but he was a tough batsman who would bail us out of these odd situations while chasing or batting first, and no he was not always tuk-tuk in ODI's like many say about him those who have no clue what Dravid offered during his 80+ 50s which he scored for India. Vilander, Gollum, The Dark Horse and 1 other 4
rkt.india Posted June 24, 2017 Posted June 24, 2017 1 hour ago, Cricketics said: Only guy I trusted in 80-4 kind of situation was Dravid, yes, one can call him whatever but he was a tough batsman who would bail us out of these odd situations while chasing or batting first, and no he was not always tuk-tuk in ODI's like many say about him those who have no clue what Dravid offered during his 80+ 50s which he scored for India. but with Dravid, he could stay on the pitch but would't score enough to win you games. JaFanatic and sandeep 2
Cricketics Posted June 24, 2017 Posted June 24, 2017 1 minute ago, rkt.india said: but with Dravid, he could stay on the pitch but would't score enough to win you games. Yes we did not have enough help too or consistency who could guide team to victory on more occasion along with him. He had limitations for the odi game but did the "dirty" job pretty well for that era. Very useful bat in ODI dring that time. The Dark Horse and Gollum 2
kubrickian Posted June 24, 2017 Posted June 24, 2017 4 hours ago, maniac said: Honest question.....world cup final against Starc Cummins Hazelwood in one of the conditions Aus,Eng,SA India 80/4....Jadhav walks in....what is your confidence meter? TBF every Indian youngster not established will struggle but Jadhav is 30+ and doesn't add anything and no upside or scope for improvement... if people are not sold on Shankar yet fair enough but a Jadhav is not the long term solution. The only batsman whom I can trust in the middle order as of now who can bat in this situation is KL Rahul. Perhaps Manish Pandey.
CG Posted June 24, 2017 Posted June 24, 2017 but with Dravid, he could stay on the pitch but would't score enough to win you games. At 80-4 you will lose almost always unless u have helpful pitch where u need to put a score .Very few in history of odis cricket than Symonds ,Bevan,Yuvi kaif and Dhoni one innings vs Pak have done it.I think dravid played some crucial knocks lower down in natwest series with Yuvi. The Dark Horse 1
express bowling Posted June 24, 2017 Posted June 24, 2017 17 hours ago, BeautifulGame said: Honest question . How many of you have seen him bat in first class cricket ? I have. But could not form a comprehensive opinion as the bowling was not that good. Cricketics and BeautifulGame 2
express bowling Posted June 24, 2017 Posted June 24, 2017 We need to back both Shankar and Krunal in ODIs. Both should have been in the WI in place of Yuvraj and Jadeja. Cricketics 1
vishalvirsingh Posted June 24, 2017 Posted June 24, 2017 On 6/23/2017 at 2:01 PM, maniac said: Pant,K.Yadav have atleast made it into the squad. Chahal's turn will come soon too Next guy we need to keep an eye out for is V.Shankar. This guy is class.Effortless cricketer and pleasing on the eye. Needs to be in the LOI set up right now Vijay shankar-he should replace Yuvraj Singh in ODI.
vishalvirsingh Posted June 24, 2017 Posted June 24, 2017 On 6/23/2017 at 4:44 PM, MCcricket said: V Shankar is a class bat, technique n can be aggressive as well, his bowling is good as well, can seam n swing the ball n I think he has the ability to bowl 135 k on average which is good, tall guy n I feel he should be tried out on A tours n tours like WI but i have not seen his bowling so cant be sure of his all round value. kedar is one of our best Bats as of today, very close to Kohli. Very talented batsman with good hitting capabilities and the best part is he likes bouncers , he hits short balls big time. MCcricket 1
Tibarn Posted June 24, 2017 Posted June 24, 2017 As of that video, it looks like his pace is a little low. How old is he? He may still be able to raise his pace to low 130s.
Vijy Posted June 24, 2017 Posted June 24, 2017 I don't think Shankar is a good enough bat to merit selection purely as a batsman in any of the formats. And he is no all-rounder - he is better than Robin Singh, Ganguly and Binny but that's not saying much; he is not a batting all-rounder. King Tendulkar and SUMO 2
wanted_desi Posted June 24, 2017 Posted June 24, 2017 Jhadav hasn't done anything wrong, he should have been coming after Kohli got out as he is someone who can bat freely. He hasn't done anything wrong, but poor guy is asked to be a slogger coming after Budha Party to compensate for slow scoring. Forever Indian 1
Cricketics Posted June 24, 2017 Posted June 24, 2017 4 hours ago, express bowling said: We need to back both Shankar and Krunal in ODIs. Both should have been in the WI in place of Yuvraj and Jadeja. Agreed, totally. Any youngsters at this time is fine but since Shankar can do both the things, need to be backed because of that. I mean look at Jimmy Neesham, guy was bowling 140+ against South Africw in series before CT, he used to be 125k bowler. Similarly Shankar can improve. Plus his batting will only make his bowling better. express bowling 1
Vijy Posted June 24, 2017 Posted June 24, 2017 10 minutes ago, Cricketics said: Agreed, totally. Any youngsters at this time is fine but since Shankar can do both the things, need to be backed because of that. I mean look at Jimmy Needhab, guy was bowling 140+ against South Africw in series before CT, he used to be 125k bowler. Similarly Shankar can improve. Plus his batting will only make his bowling better. Shankar is not a "bowler" - he is more of a Robin Singh/Binny type option with the ball. His List A record has been getting better though with bat and ball.
Vijy Posted June 24, 2017 Posted June 24, 2017 IPL is not always a good measure of success. having seen shankar in ranjis, i was not very impressed.
NareshK Posted June 24, 2017 Posted June 24, 2017 Yeah. Krunal Pandya, Vijay Shankar, Deepak Hooda should be considered potential batting all rounder options because all the batsmen in Indian team dont bowl.
Vijy Posted June 24, 2017 Posted June 24, 2017 1 minute ago, NareshK said: Yeah. Krunal Pandya, Vijay Shankar, Deepak Hooda should be considered potential batting all rounder options because all the batsmen in Indian team dont bowl. Of them only KP (Krunal Pandya) can bowl 7-8 overs on a consistent basis. The Hood's bowling has regressed a lot since his debut FC season. Shankar seems to be improving as bowler over seasons, but I am not yet convinced he can bowl 7-8 overs if required.
Cricketics Posted June 24, 2017 Posted June 24, 2017 2 hours ago, Vijy said: Shankar is not a "bowler" - he is more of a Robin Singh/Binny type option with the ball. His List A record has been getting better though with bat and ball. I know that he isn't, but even his batting, yes just based on his batting he can make the Indian team. Bowling he does well or not depends on him how much hard work he will put, but he shouldn't miss out the Indian team slot just because he is not an all rounder at this time. He is a brilliant and consistent bat who can be fast tracked.
Vijy Posted June 24, 2017 Posted June 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, Cricketics said: I know that he isn't, but even his batting, yes just based on his batting he can make the Indian team. Bowling he does well or not depends on him how much hard work he will put, but he shouldn't miss out the Indian team slot just because he is not an all rounder at this time. He is a brilliant and consistent bat who can be fast tracked. i've seen him in ranjis and some domestic list a matches. doesn't make the cut as a batsman alone imo. for me, ipl is not always a reliable indicator of success.
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