maniac Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 I have not seen Vijay Shankar bowl but I have seen him bad and boy he is good ...Seems to have a lazy elegance about his batting and can hit big....sold!!! beetle 1 Link to comment
gazza Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Would've been a good opportunity to of got shaw in and around the team/international cricket. Link to comment
sandeep Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 16 minutes ago, mancalledsting said: Shankar- don't know anything about this guy but a lot of sensible posters on here rate him highly so I'd be interested to see how he performs. He may actually get to play, here's why: Likely green tops 2 spinners redundant as proved in last match on such wickets Bhuvi out so Ishant will replace him Shankar may play in place of second spinner as we were in need of a 4th seamer this most recent match Not the worst thing to get both spinners some game time in unfriendly conditions, see which one does better. We don't need all 5 bowlers to be effective in order to wrap up SL in 4 days anyway. Link to comment
mancalledsting Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 1 hour ago, sandeep said: Not the worst thing to get both spinners some game time in unfriendly conditions, see which one does better. We don't need all 5 bowlers to be effective in order to wrap up SL in 4 days anyway. We don't wanna burn out our pacers either. Bhuvi won't be there, umesh currently off colour. If spinners not a wicket taking threat would be a big risk to field both express bowling 1 Link to comment
SK_IH Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Vijay Shankar is a good addition ,I think he is a very good batsman ,don't know about the effectiveness of his bowling But if Shankar plays and it's a green track and the spinners are neutralized,then we will be hamstrung with only Shami and Umesh,both of them can be erratic at times moreso Umesh So I think unlikely Shankar will play or are they planning to play him in place of Dhawan and push Pujara to open Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 6 hours ago, Temujin Khaghan said: not in Kohli's hands he can shoot if given a gun but when given a sword he can only stab Not really. There is no way that if he had requested some practice game, BCCI would not have arranged. Link to comment
Khota Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 I am not sold on Vijay Shankar. He is not a good bowler but a decent bat. This selection baffles me as there are many deserving players ahead of him. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 6 hours ago, Cricketics said: Kohli failed too at some point and Pujara failed too when we were overseas. Rahane is India’s best batsman overseas in recent history so with overseas-swing coming for Indian team, we can not afford to drop our best test batsman who saved us on multiple occasions. Regarding impact, he has still scored runs and played a crucial role in recent series against Australia at home. He had set standards so high with his performance that his failure in few series really started pinching lot of people. Fact is he is doing just all right. He has turned well in the big occasions like I told you against Australia, and he might very well be our great batsman again in the coming tours. Again like I say all the time, I won’t change our 3-4-5 for the next 1 year. They have earned it. And one might agree with me or not but I believe Pujara-Kohli-Rahane makes the best top-middle order trio in the whole world. No one comes close, not even the trio involving Amla, De villers. Rahane cant be dropped based on one game. Pujara, Kohli and Rahane are the mainstays of our batting. Rahane is like Laxman, will suddenly produce a gem among failures. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 40 minutes ago, Khota said: I am not sold on Vijay Shankar. He is not a good bowler but a decent bat. This selection baffles me as there are many deserving players ahead of him. he is batting alrounder. His bowling will be very handy on seaming tracks. He is just a backup to Pandya though i would have liked a rookie fast bowler not named Shardul to be selected. Link to comment
Cricketics Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 1 minute ago, rkt.india said: Rahane cant be dropped based on one game. Pujara, Kohli and Rahane are the mainstays of our batting. Rahane is like Laxman, will suddenly produce a gem among failures. Yes, not only Rahane, same for all three. All are mainstays. Like I said 3-4-5 can’t be touched. We need to only worry about other slots. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 2 hours ago, SK_IH said: Vijay Shankar is a good addition ,I think he is a very good batsman ,don't know about the effectiveness of his bowling But if Shankar plays and it's a green track and the spinners are neutralized,then we will be hamstrung with only Shami and Umesh,both of them can be erratic at times moreso Umesh So I think unlikely Shankar will play or are they planning to play him in place of Dhawan and push Pujara to open no he will play ahead of one of Ashwin or Jadeja, likely Ashiwn, 3 seamers, one seam alrounder and one spinner depending ont he pitch. you dont need 2 spinners if we get another pitch like Eden. Link to comment
SK_IH Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 7 minutes ago, rkt.india said: no he will play ahead of one of Ashwin or Jadeja, likely Ashiwn, 3 seamers, one seam alrounder and one spinner depending ont he pitch. you dont need 2 spinners if we get another pitch like Eden. i agree i didnt think of such a situation,most likely one spinner will be dropped,when was last time we played with one spinner in india? Link to comment
Texan Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Hope they don't pick Ishant again in the XI. But I am pretty sure that is going to happen The Dark Horse and Turning_track 2 Link to comment
RAZPOR Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Really happy for shankar,hopefully he has improved on his bowling. Link to comment
beetle Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 9 hours ago, Temujin Khaghan said: just imagine if we groom shankar properly ... we can play Pandya and shankar in the same team at the World Cup... once we play 2 pace bowling allrounders (hitters) in the team, we can happily avoid Jadeja and ashwin by picking Kuldeep since we anyway have the batting cushion. Kuldeep is no no.11. If bangar works on him a bit, he could be a better tail ender than jaddu or ash in odis. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share Posted November 21, 2017 2 hours ago, Khota said: I am not sold on Vijay Shankar. He is not a good bowler but a decent bat. This selection baffles me as there are many deserving players ahead of him. Its how you look at things He is a batting all rounder whose bowling is a bonus. As 5th bowler his job is to just bowl 10-15 overs and keep it tight. Unfortunately none of of our top order batsman bowl so an all rounder becomes really important . Overseas wkts will give some help to his avg bowling and most team will give indian team a grassy pitch here and there which will make any trundler lethal . Post pandya, shankar is the most deserving all rounder which other all rounder deserved a chance ahead of him Link to comment
tweaker Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Shankar 's bowling is underrated.He can bowl at 135+ with good line & length. I think he is thinking, intelligent cricketer . He has this ability to up his game against strong opposition.I have seen his performance against Mumbai . express bowling 1 Link to comment
Forever Indian Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Both Pandya and Shankar played in the practise match against Bangladesh when they toured us a year or two back. Shankar bowled better than him and got a 81 ball Century. Pandya got no wickets and single digit runs. Not comparing based on one match but obviously if we are looking for a pacer batting allrounder one should not put all your eggs in one basket. tweaker 1 Link to comment
MCcricket Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 47 minutes ago, Forever Indian said: Both Pandya and Shankar played in the practise match against Bangladesh when they toured us a year or two back. Shankar bowled better than him and got a 81 ball Century. Pandya got no wickets and single digit runs. Not comparing based on one match but obviously if we are looking for a pacer batting allrounder one should not put all your eggs in one basket. Shankar for me is captaincy material, grounded, smart, analytical, has batting skill n talent, gears, on batting alone I would have him in the team, his bowling is decent, not a filler ,can get us wkts, moves the ball, n gets bounce, I assume he will bowl 130 to 142 range eventually. Forever Indian and tweaker 2 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 1 hour ago, tweaker said: Shankar 's bowling is underrated.He can bowl at 135+ with good line & length. I think he is thinking, intelligent cricketer . He has this ability to up his game against strong opposition.I have seen his performance against Mumbai . he bowls 125-130 Link to comment
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