Dinesh Karthik: Time to accept he can never be the player we expect him to be.

[Pollack]

Poor keeper. Ordinary batting. Not reliable. Discuss.

Edited August 4, 2018 by Pollack

[Khota]

he is fine.

[The Dark Horse]

Let the poor guy be. Pant fanboys can bring him instead of Dhawan/Vijay.

[express bowling]

@Pollack

 

What do we expect him to be  ?

 

He is meeting my expectations.   

[rkt.india]

He looked fine in second inning. Got a good delivery from Anderson.  We seem to be running around circles instead of accepting that Anderson and Broad England ATGs and at their home, we will truly special efforts to win games.

[R!TTER]

He did fine in the second innings, in fact had he batted ahead of Ashwin we may have had a far greater chance to chase the target.

[rkt.india]

3 minutes ago, The Dark Horse said:

Let the poor guy be. Pant fanboys can bring him instead of Dhawan/Vijay.

Can't see Pant doing much against Broadandu.

[express bowling]

Now that he has been brought back to test cricket ... Karthick deserves a few chances.  Should not drop anyone after one or two games.

[prudent_kreeda]

Just now, express bowling said:

@Pollack

 

What do we expect him to be  ?

 

He is meeting my expectations.   

    Poor guy has got last chance in his life to make it . Let him give 2 more tests of his career . A fail here , thts the end of it.

[rkt.india]

1 minute ago, R!TTER said:

He did fine in the second innings, in fact had he batted ahead of Ashwin we may have had a far greater chance to chase the target.

Nah, that Ashwin move was fine. I feel we need to change the batting order completely.

[express bowling]

1 minute ago, prudent_kreeda said:

    Poor guy has got last chance in his life to make it . Let him give 2 more tests of his career . A fail here , thts the end of it.

 

I want to give him all 5 tests unless he keeps horribly.

[Ankit_sharma03]

I wnt drop him after one game, when u give someone a chance give a proper one.....

he looked good in 2nd innings , infact better then many batsman.....apart from 1 drop was ok with wk as well....helped VK with captaincy n at this point if anyone takes some kind of burdern of virat its gr8 

 

[R!TTER]

Just now, express bowling said:

 

I want to give him all 5 tests unless he keeps horribly.

He shouldn't be the keeper, we can slot him as an opener for Dhawan or Vijay. Drop both if you want KL to open as well, Pujara may come in at 3 with Pant at 6, DK was really horrible to the pacers.

[GautiMaan]

How many balls did he drop.. tune will change when those are of edges. 

Don't know how Pant is with the gloves so can't say whether he will be an improvement but still England showed faith in Curran and were rewarded.Time for India to learn something from them

[zen]

Karthik is an useful player. However, my selection process is like this for test in no particular order:

 

* Batsmen: Pick the 5 best batsmen based on conditions and form

* Bowlers: Pick the 4 best bowlers based on conditions and form. For bowlers form and fitness are very important

* WK: Pick the best WK option

* “X” Slot: Ideally, by doing the above the team should be optimized to take on the conditions and opposition. Last slot is the “X” slot for me, where I bring in a player who can potentially turn things, provide flexibility, or help to leverage on the strengths 

 

For Karthik to be in the 11, he has to be either the one of the top 5 batsmen based on form and conditions, or the better wk option, or the “X” factor 

Edited August 4, 2018 by zen

[prudent_kreeda]

11 minutes ago, zen said:

Karthik is an useful player. However, my selection process is like this for test in no particular order:

 

* Batsmen: Pick the 5 best batsmen based on conditions and form

* Bowlers: Pick the 4 best bowlers based on conditions and form. For bowlers form and fitness are very important

* WK: Pick the best WK option

* “X” Slot: Ideally, by doing the above the team should be optimized to take on the conditions and opposition. Last slot is the “X” slot for me, where I bring in a player who can potentially turn things, provide flexibility, or help to leverage on the strengths 

 

For Karthik to be in the 11, he has to be either the one of the top 5 batsmen based on form and conditions, or the better wk option, or the “X” factor 

      In form & Conditions - Best 5 batsmen ...

       VK  

        Then  ....

        .......

        ........

        ........

      Forget it , not able to reach even a count of 2 .

 

 

 

[zen]

Just now, prudent_kreeda said:

      In form & Conditions - Best 5 batsmen ...

       VK  

        Then  ....

        .......

        ........

        ........

      Forget it , not able to reach even a count of 2 .

 

 

 

Exactly, which is why I would consider Karthik as a batting option to optimize the batting portfolio considering others are struggling 

 

[rtmohanlal]

Karthick  has a good track record in ENG  though his over all test record is not up to the mark  and hence not a long term choice. And him being a keeper  also , he deserves his chances.I think he will perform at a satisfactory level  if played in all tests.Problem is with other 4 of the top order apart from Kohli, especially  that hack Dhawan. 

 

Vijay too seems falling apart. His first 5 inns in ENG  were superb that covers  the utter flops in next  7 inns. Rahul the new comer too adds to the problem

Edited August 4, 2018 by rtmohanlal

[prudent_kreeda]

1 minute ago, rtmohanlal said:

Karthick  has a good track record in ENG  though his over all test record is not up to the mark  and hence not a long term choice. And him being a keeper  also , he deserves his chances.I think he will perform at a satisfactory level  if played in all tests.Problem is with other 4 of the top order apart from Kohli, especially  that hack Dhawan. 

     RT...  expect a retort from Khota Now .

[WeStMiDz]

He's just a poor starter. Looked solid last night but unfortunately had to start all over again.